Member: Sue C.
Location: Hamburg Michigan
Date: 23 Feb 2003
Time: 10:07:20

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We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. 43 days ago, I made a big break with the old life. Took the kids (aged 2 and 4) and moved out from the alcoholic home. The kids love the new improved mommy. I believe it was divine inspiration. First I turned it over to Her, then I got sober. Meetings have really helped me come to terms with the spiritual side of my recovery. Without faith in the divine plan, I would not be able to trust that the courts will eventually decide in God's favor. The soon to be ex-husband makes me out to be horrible, because he preferred his drunken ways. I have turned my life right side up by getting sober. He feels I have turned his upside down. No more late night parties in my home on worknights. No more finding his girlfriend on the couch with him in the middle of the night. No more working to support his habits. (Neither he nor the girlfriend work) I have control of my life. I am practising acceptance and forgiveness. He cannot be controlled. I must accept that part of God's plan is to put him in the place he is now. I must work on releasing the resentment. This program has helped me more than I would even have imagined. Staying sober is just the first bit. Trusting in God, accepting the way this are, and releasing resentment, have given me serenity to wait for the courts to decide custody. It takes so long, but faith makes it easier. Grateful to be sober another day.


Member: Kathy D
Location: AM, OH
Date: 23 Feb 2003
Time: 10:54:56

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Hi! I'm Kathy and I am an alcoholic. Good topic for me this week. My Home Group is going to have a group conscience this week on something I feel very strong about. What this tradition teaches me is that...no matter how that group conscience goes...it is God's will and not mine. And whatever happens this is my Home Group and will always be my Home Group.


Member: nathanael
Location: Burien, WA
Date: 23 Feb 2003
Time: 16:43:47

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Member: Donnie M.
Location: Short Gap, WV (D.O.S. 3-1-99)
Date: 23 Feb 2003
Time: 22:37:26

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God can we can`t! The only must we have to remember. Thanks


Member: Kim V
Location: kvaughn@madison.main.nc.us
Date: 23 Feb 2003
Time: 23:53:35

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Kim V here alcoholic. I just came from a meeting. My home group, where we had a business meeting and I am the treasure. I am utterly amazed at how the orignal few first AA founders got all this right with so little soberity. Group conscience. Such a powerful idea that works so well. AA would have never survived without it. No leaders only servants. What a concept. It is like the old saying if it works don't fix it.


Member: Vicente S.
Location: Central Mass
Date: 24 Feb 2003
Time: 14:13:02

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My name is Vicente, a patient of AA. It's nice to focus on the Traditions. I really believe that the GOMU is in control of how AA works (and it does work). I was a defacto atheist until the GOMU, who I call God, showed me that I could not stay away from a drink for 24 hours without the Fellowship which is summed up in the first word of the First Step. Being active in my home group and District 26 I can see how God operates. Our GSR meetings are well attended and it amazes me constantly how people really are trusted servants. Tradition 2 is right on the money. Have a great day unless you've made other plans :) Namaste, Vicente


Member: TedU
Location: Wheaton MD
Date: 24 Feb 2003
Time: 15:16:12

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I've learned that no group survives whose higher power walks on two legs.


Member: AZbill
Location: From AZbill
Date: 24 Feb 2003
Time: 16:41:21

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HI Bill here. Alcoholic from Arizona. The second tradition is very clear on who is in charge and it ain't me. Not really much to comment on this one except to point out that the Traditions do for the Group what the Steps do for the individual. That was pointed out to me years ago. On careful reading we will find that the Steps, the Traditions, And the Concepts of service parallel in structure. It does not take a lot of imagination to see how closely the 2nd Tradition for the AA group is related to the 2nd Step for the individual alcoholic. In summary, the Steps keep the alcoholic healthy, the Traditions keep the Groups healthy and the Twelve Concepts of Service keeps AA world services healthy. It all fits. Bill az-bill@mindspring.com


Member: huey
Location: fresco
Date: 25 Feb 2003
Time: 09:13:39

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Question' a bit off topic,but does tradition 3 mean that its okay to talk about drugs here? marajuana? getting stoned? if the only requirement is a desire to stop drinking, does that mean i can post my friendly comments even thoughing i am stoned?


Member: Jolee
Location: canada
Date: 25 Feb 2003
Time: 13:53:51

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Hey 'Huey' from 'Fresco'; it is only a suggestion that while attending a face2face meeting that members remain sober for the duration of the meeting. Whether it be drugs, alcohol, pills or whathaveyou. We are here to help for those who WANT it.


Member: Sara B.
Location: Lima, Per
Date: 25 Feb 2003
Time: 16:47:39

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It is true, here Sara, alcoholic trying hard to be sober each day in the whole sense of the word since after stop drinking one year ago (although I knew the program ten years ago but leave meetings after four years and you know what happen is I forget who I am) and know working my steps (for once with an sponsor now in my fifth step) yes, the group works, but it works everytime the members who serve act as humble as possible. Problems start when somebody thinks has all the answers, no way! we are all suffering the same disease and although I agree time without drinking together with practicing and learning the program gives you wisdom and the capacity to help more precisely the new comers, we are all one inch from the first drink and ONLY for THE GRACE OF GOD that illuminates us to do the right thing, to live 24 hours in every aspect of our life, to avoid resentment, to work our flaws and character defects, to be in serenity..then, we can feel SAVE for today and gaining sobriety to HANDLE better our lives and help others..never to FEEL better than my brother/sister coming the first day to his first meeting, no way, I pray that I never forget where I can be with one drink, who I can turn to, all I can loose, God bless my sobriety today, bless AA and bless you all..I love you..Thanks for being there..


Member: JCH
Location: TEXAS
Date: 25 Feb 2003
Time: 22:49:45

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This tradition helps us all to remember that we are not running the show. When I'm in a meeting and someone is not doing it wright it is not my job to take action to straighten them out. The only time I would speak up is from the chair, and say someone was cross talking causing a disturbance. I would only remind them of the principles voted in at group concious. For example: Please no cross talk. If I were not the chair I would practice the principles of the program LOVE,Tolerance,Patience,and Forgiveness. I am so thankful that everytime I have made an ass out of myself in the process of growing up I was aloud to.


Member: Melanie
Location: Akron, Ohio, USA
Date: 27 Feb 2003
Time: 00:25:54

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Hi, I'm Melanie an alcoholic. I never really thought about this 2nd tradition in depth before now. As I read it tonight I have the thought that as a spiritual organization whose members are trying to allign our actions with God's will, it's no wonder my home group meetings always went better than any staff or employee meetings I have attended. Being voluntary, only those who care about the good of the group and the alcoholics in attendance participate. (not a mandatory "or else!" atmosphere.) I have never seen anyone scoffing, sleeping or horse playing at an AA business meeting. Very rarely is one member overly concerned with personal gain or glory. (and sometimes that one is the one who is jumps at the chance to serve as officer ie:secretary, treasurer, chair,etc.) We value the experience of the old-timer and the fresh ideas of the new-comer. And we decide democraticly. Yes, if a loving God were accepted as the ultimate authority in every group...aahhh,...imagine the possibilities! Thank you for sharing in my sobriety today!


Member: Adelea I.
Location: Dresden, Germany
Date: 27 Feb 2003
Time: 11:41:26

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Adelea, alcoholic. The Steps are for my relaitonship with myself, and the Traditions are for my relationship with "you". These Traditions can be applied in AA or in our homes, work places, family, etc. I use this Tradition in my family. For example, when there is a decision to be made in our house, my husband and I discuss it (group concscience) then we come to a decision that everyone is happy with and that we beleive is best for ourselves, each other and God (higer power;trusted servents who do nto govern). Everyone has a voice, adn we make pro's adn con's. AA is great b/c we can learn som much in our small little communities,(our home groups) that we can take into our big communities (family, work, church, etc.)Have a great day! Tchuis!


Member: Mark M
Location: DFW
Date: 27 Feb 2003
Time: 16:57:01

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Mark alcoholic, It's amazing to me sometimes how things in my home group seem to go amazingly smooth depite the individuals, myself included that make up the group. Our group conscience meetings can get pretty heated sometimes but things that need to get done get done and we have a good group. Just evidence to me Trad 2 is working and God is running the show.


Member: Bob P.
Location: Wild Trout, WI
Date: 27 Feb 2003
Time: 19:04:32

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I agree, Mark.. While I've seen internal squabbles blow a group apart, it is far more often the case that the common good and the singularity of purpose prevails. You can't have a bunch of self-centered drunks agreeing and working together like this all the time unless there is something higher watching over us all. I really believe this..


Member: Bob P.
Location: Wild Trout, WI
Date: 27 Feb 2003
Time: 19:04:45

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I agree, Mark.. While I've seen internal squabbles blow a group apart, it is far more often the case that the common good and the singularity of purpose prevails. You can't have a bunch of self-centered drunks agreeing and working together like this all the time unless there is something higher watching over us all. I really believe this..


Member: R.J.
Location: Baltimore
Date: 28 Feb 2003
Time: 17:00:11

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So true Mark...I agree with all you are saying...At my group last week a female member who by the way is 11 years sober was so into talking about "Why she does not feel normal" as in being able to go to bars with friends from work after a hard day! I was never so touched by her deep emotional speech and her ability to speak so openly about how she still felt after being sober for 11 years! WOW! Anyway...as she started telling her story as in how she felt, she broke down and started crying big time and through her tears I truly felt her pain. She spoke about how she just wants to be "Quote" - Normal...and be able to go to the bars without drinking or feeling guilty or scared of being dragged into that dark world again! My heart sunk for her. After she was done and the speaker called on another person to share...I was never soooo appalled by this jerk's (excuse my french) comments about the woman speaking prior to him. He had the nerve to say that he was sick and tired of all the people who come to A.A. and bitch and cry and moan and boo who me!!! And that she needed to get over it!!! He asked (not directly to this woman) but to the group..."What is Normal anyway"? and that people needed to get a grip and wise up and stop crying over spilt milk, and if they was to go to a bar again they would see that they was missing nothing anyway! I watched with my mouth dropped open as this lady sat there with her eyes looking downward as if she had said or done something wrong! I mean she spilled her guts out only to be dragged through the mud! And NOONE said anything to this man especially the words "Thanks for sharing" after he was done speaking!(I guess the room was in shoke too) Not even the sectetary of the meeting! I NEVER felt so much anger and disquise at a meeting. I was with a friend who attends meetings with me and I said to him..."Let's get out of here now"! As I was leaving this room...I walked over to the woman who happened to be sitting in the same row as me(near the back of the room...for I don't like to be center stage at any meeting!) and I leaned over her and kissed her on the cheek and wispered to her to ignore what this man had just said and that I had never been so touched by what someone had shared as in their story...All I could tell her was... God Bless Sweetie and Keep coming back NO matter what! That was the first meeting I ever walked out of! Just goes to show you squabbles do happen(even if it only effects ones self). God Bless all. Ronnie Joe :)