Member: alcoholic
Location: trudging the road...
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 4:59:44 PM

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hello i'm an alcoholic

this is the first time i have been able to discuss a topic. i guess i would like to bring up the topic of aa or attitude adjustment as told to me by one of the members.

i've been dry 14 years and sober for 12 of those. i know when i first got into recovery i had a very negativistic, stinking thinking attitude. i found that i needed to change my perception of things especially since my thinking was so warped. although i had a spiritual experience that put the plug in the jug so to speak i still had the emotional crap from growing up in an alcoholic home

i discovered that in order to be able to live happily in aa i needed an attitude adjustment. it started slowly in talking with sponsers, reading the materials, practicing the steps, and fine tuning my spirituality. i've found that although i learned many lessons over the years i continue learning new ones and relearning old ones properly

thank you for allowing me to post, i'll take another 24, keep coming back, it works if you work it.


Member: Bobo
Location: Hanalei, Kauai, Hawaii
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 5:07:52 PM

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Hi my name is Bobo and I'm as alcoholic. If I'm the first one here I'd like to talk about, " One day at a time." I remember almost fifteen years ago when I was only two weeks sober and I was sitting in front of hour local coffee shop having a cup of coffee with a friend and the owner of the coffee shop came out and my friend told her that I had been sober two weeks and the owner looked at me and said, " I'll bet you twenty bucks you can't stay sober for a month." I couldn't take her up on that bet and I told her I didn't know if I could stay sober for a month but I was going to give it my best shot to just stay sober one day at a time. Some days it was all I could do to just stay sober minute by minute by minute and hour by hour. Sometimes I even told myself that I was going to have a drink later just not right now. Through my Higher Power and Alcoholics Anonymous I've managed to delay that next drink for over fourteen years. For you newcomers, don't be so hard on yourselves, just take it one day at a time. Aloha, Bobo


Member: Dan H.
Location: Glennallen Alaska
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 6:19:27 PM

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Hi Everyone....Dan H. alkie and druggy here. Both good topics. My attitude helps me make 24 hrs. everyday for the past 4 years. Just got back from Maui and my wrecker broke down. Really messin with my attitude, but I know with time and with the fact that I'm not gonna pick up, I'll get through it. I can either let it get me down to the point of wanting to drink and escape the problem...or I can adjust my attitude and look at it as a way to learn how to cope with it. My pity pot is not a comfortable place anymore so I think I'll choose the latter. That is why I got on the web and came straight here. Learning how to adjust my attitude has not been easy for me. But it's getting easier and more familiar with time. Thanks for being here for me when I needed you. Dan H. dirtydan@alaska.net


Member: dena
Location: oregon
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 6:21:56 PM

Comments

hi,dena recovering person here with 13+ years and i can see both topics as one. for me the attitude adjustment was first.i'd go to meetings because i HAD to and there were times i went with a lot of anger and resentment-i got more out of those meetings than i realized!as i kept going i got this attitude adjudtment just bring around the others and listening and seeing myself in them. of course,whenever i took someone else's inventory my sponsor would tell me that i was the same way----I DID NOT WANT TO HEAR THAT.working the steps and not liking how i felt eith all the anger i found my sponsor was right and tha attitude changed.I stopped fighting to prove that my own craziness had to be right and surrendered.once i made the change i could then understand the one day at a time which is how i live now.i've learned to break things down to the smallest parts and look at the individual part.

i was and am a newcomer for every day is new to me. every person i speak with, every call i get - none are predictible and it's so much more fun to have the adventure of not knowing.

newcomers are the most important and those with time are important for me and recovery.i need to be reminded of where i come from and i need the sage experience given with sharing

i am sober today and that means today is a success to miracles dena


Member: Lisa J
Location: South Dakota
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 7:36:40 PM

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Hi my name is Lisa and I'm a alcoholic. Haven't said that for a long time. I went thru treatment about 10 yrs ago!! Been sober on and off again. I'll stay sober for awhile and life will be going good and I'll think that I can handle another drink. Guess what - I can't. I have done this over and over again. I am sick of failure. This time I drank and I got so mad at myself that I almost took my life!! I need help. Whoever is out there - stay in AA and get help!! I think it must really work. I haven't gone to AA for a long time now.. It is gonna be hard to get back but if I want to stay sober I have to get an attitude adjustment and take it one day at a time. I don't know if this was on the topic or not but just had to share so maybe some of you might remember going thru this and decide to keep on with AA. I don't know what my next step is but I know it cannot be drinking. That's all for now. Thanks for listening!!!


Member: Charlie Darling
Location: Key West Fl.
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 7:40:19 PM

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Charlie Darling a very gratful recovering alcholic, These a great topics and only a fwe shares and already I feel a new person. I go to an Aditude adjustment here at 8am in a tropical garden and to get my start each day I handel one day at a time, and life is beautiful, plus the eleventh step prayer helps with my attitude as I try to practice that in all my thinking. Thank you for giving me another day sober, Love you all. kwduke#keysdigital.com


Member: SONIA'S CAT
Location: THAILAND
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 7:53:58 PM

Comments

MEOW MEOW,ANY OF YOU SEEN SONIA, MEOOOW, MEOW


Member: Valerie H.
Location: Bucks Co, PA
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 7:57:48 PM

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Hi. Val, alcoholic. Attitude adjustments for me begin with an attitude of gratitude. As a sober infant, one day at a time is difficult. Life on life's terms is hard. Cravings and the obsession to drink is overwhelming daily. But I need to remember a few basic things...have I tried to take my life today? Did I actually get a paycheck from going to work everyday? Did I break out in handcuffs today? Have I treated myself and others with respect today? Do I have people who love and care for me? Am I able to use a phone, get to meetings, afford medication, enjoy the simple pleasures of life? For I am sober today, and that makes me a miracle in God's eyes. I am His child. I believe that the obsession for a drink will leave me if I keep doing the next right thing, and doing the right things gives me a positive attitude. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Jenn P.
Location: Poconos, PA
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 8:39:44 PM

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Jenn here- an alcoholic who is happy, joyous, and free! Wow you guys, thanks so much for the positive sharing! I just came back from retreat where I go twice a year to get a little in-depth Attitude adjustment. I get a daily dose in meetings and from other sober alcoholics in my life. I also love listening to speaker tapes and reading the literature to refresh me if I'm in a funk. Today I can adjust my attitude much quicker, cuz I continue to practice these principles the best I can. You all help me and show me the way. Thanks and hang in there, it does get better. Love you all.


Member: Mike L.
Location: Iowa, USA
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 9:01:41 PM

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Greetings CPers, I'm not often here in the discussion group, but daily poster on the CP...Don't scroll by just because of that!

Interesting to me that ODAAT and Attitude Adjustment are co-topics this week? I say that simply because the concept of One Day At A Time was and still is my attitude adjustment in this spiritual program. I lived for years anywhere but the here and now...I drank over what was and what might be. Everything was a crisis, and in that turmoil of self-induced stress, I justified my drinking a lot of times with "what if's" and unnamed fears. Just to live in the day, and this day only whenever possible, is an attitude I try to hang on to. It keeps me grounded in what's really important. What a gift to not be constantly running away from or towards another crisis!

Peace, Mike L.


Member: Azbill
Location: Sierra Vista AZ
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 10:08:39 PM

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Hello Family, My name is Bill and I am an alcoholic. I been sober ever since I knowed how. Thanks for two great and important topics this week.

The day I walked into AA, For the last time, I did not believe it would work for me. An older gentleman sat down by me and told me you all could see that I was sick. He also told me you all were going to get me well. All I have to do was change my entire way of thinking (Attitude)about alcohol, and you were going to teach me how to do that. The very next day a friend and I started through The big book, "Alcoholics Anonymous".

I learned only a couple of things that first time through. One, I believed that the program just might work for me and Two, I felt a little better. I also gained some impetus to want to work the program more thoroughly. I was to go through the "Doctor's Opinion" and the first 164 page of the book several more times that first year. I improved each time.

On page 84 in the "promises", one of the things you taught me was my whole attitude and outlook on life would change, but I had to work the first nine Steps for this to happen. This new attitude and outlook was to come into play big time later on.

Some thirteeen years later I was diagnosed with cancer and was terminal. Four to six months to live. One year post two surgeries my Doc told me that the only thing that saved my butt was my attitude and my sense of humor.

I learned this new attitude from you guys. You all have saved my life twice and for that I am grateful. Thank you very much. I love you.

Bill az-bill@primenet.com


Member: Sharon F
Location: Portland, OR Beaver's fan
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 10:22:57 PM

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Hi, AA=Atitude Ajustment.. and no matter how long you are in the program of AA your attitude is in adjustment. If it isn't you won't stay around. This was told to me 22+ years ago and it still works with me. No matter WHAT comes down the pike, my attitude needs fine tuning daily. My spiritual life is in good shape, physical is improving, mental is improving, and my pity=pots are fewer and farther in between, all due to One Day At A Time and AA, Attitude Ajustment. I wouldn't have made it thru this last 7 months if it hadn't been for AA, my God, and the fellowship of this program. Thank you for ALWAYS being here for me 24/7. As my life settles a bit and I can pray once again, it is my turn to stick out my hand (keyboard) and be there for you. Love and Prayers, Sharon F If 1 day is too long, try 4 (blank blank) minutes. It will work!! slfrey@Yahoo.com


Member: oregon
Location: beavers go go go
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 11:46:54 PM

Comments

go beavers,,,,,,,go beavers,,,,,,,,rahrahrah

oregon beaver fan here,,,,,,,go beavs


Member: Dawn R.
Location: Alberta
Date: 11/19/00
Time: 11:57:44 PM

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Hi, I'm Dawn and I'm an alcoholic. I like both topics and need an attitude adjustment sometimes, but I really am grateful I'm sober. My roomate and I had a fellow alky go out drinking this weekend after 4 and a half years of being sober. It sure gave me a wake up call about how I really only have this 24 hours and I don't KNOW what tommorrow will bring. This friend of ours is probably drunk right now. I hope he makes it back. I am VERY glad to find this web sight. A good 24 to everyone. Dawn R. lorirout@hotmail.com


Member: Cina B.
Location: NoCal
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 12:17:23 AM

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I've been amazed at what this program has done for my attitude! I recently broke my ankle, and I've spent the past 6+ weeks unable to put weight on it ... lots of time in bed and chairs with pillows to keep the foot up.

What has amazed me is that, after the first shock and fear of what had happened to me, I have had an incredibly positive attitude. In moments I was able to accept my powerlessness over what had happened to me and could then focus on getting as much as I could out of this experience. What a change for this little kid!

And, because it's such a long time to wear a cast and be so inactive, I truly must take each day as it comes, otherwise I'd probably go nuts and feel resentful about being this way for so long. I've also learned a lot about being on the disabled side and have incredible NEW respect (always had SOME) for those who must live this way the rest of their lives.

I'm very grateful to be healing! Thanks for all the good words and I hope mine are of some help to someone.


Member: heather G
Location: Henderson, Ky
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 1:22:34 AM

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hi, my name is heather alcoholic and addict. when i first came in here 6 months ago my attitude was terrible. when i got a sponsor and started working the steps and praying that began to change almost without my knowing it. today i know that my attitude for the day depends on how i choose to be that day. if get up saying i am going to be mad and hateful or with a negative attitude then that is how my day will be so therefore i get up and pray that god guide my day as he feels and i try to stay focused on a positive day


Member: The crazy world of Avril G
Location: Belgium
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 6:43:15 AM

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{{{{{MIKE L}}}}}} Great minds think alike, HUH?? On seeing both topics Attitude Adjustment AND ODAAT, my first thought was just that. Living life on life's terms, ODAAT, is indeed an attitude adjustment for THIS alkie, who constantly lived in the shame and remorse of YESTERDAY and the fear of TOMORROW.

SO, altered attitudes for me is what my sponsor always says, 'A grateful alcoholic will NEVER drink again, so develop an attitude of Gratitude' Each day I have ONE thing (at least) to be grateful for, and in particular that I wake up to find myself breathing is enough reason for gratitude from someone who tried to kill herself on numerous occasions, and, in sobriety was whisked off to Coronary care with sirens and blue lights flashing, Am I Grateful??? IS THE POPE CATHOLIC?? Just for today, I am sober, grateful, happy and living a 'normal' way of life (at least as far as I UNDERSTAND 'normal' - which is about as much as I understand the Higher Power which has kept me sober for the past 10+ years!!)

Another attitude Adjustment for me is STOP ANALYSING!! I no longer question or analyse the programme, MY H.P. or the reason WHY I am sober today (WHY NOT??) ANALYSIS PARALYSIS!! Acceptance is the key.

goodallavril@hotmail.com


Member: richard m
Location: sarsota, florida
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 9:39:49 AM

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good morning, my name is richard .....i am an alcoholic.....i sense that since i am nearing my 15 year anniversary (deember28, 1985).......that i can identify with that part of our first two posters.........what has been my experience , strenghth and hope is simple ......i lost the desire to drink before my first court ordered aa meeting ( but after my dui ).i am in aa just for today .one day at a time , to stay sober and help another acoholic to achieve sobriety.....it really is very simple......i use the confrence approved materials.....as they apply to my life.......my past is past and today is here .........items like this are pluses........since we get to refocus and share on an extemperaneous basis as nee ed .......i currently am in the pampflet the aa memeber , medications and other drugs......and have been there for ten years .....because of my bodies medical needs i may never get out of there .......however i do not drink over it .nor am i un happy .......i am gratefull to have a life to live and thankfull for all the love and support that i recieve ....i attened my church on a daily basis for my holy communon .and their ministering to me ...... i meet many of my spiritual sisters and brothers there......some are even in the program ......but that is not an issue there of course......i have been a daily attender and pray that that will always continue......and probably will if i stay sober ......even aa tells us " our sobriety is contingent upon the maintenence of our spiritualty".......so following the directions and reading the material ...reinforces all the good things i do .when i am not at a meeting ........life only gets better when i stay sober and try to do the right thing each day .......and each thing i do .needs to be the right thing ....as bill wilson told us ......."REMEMBER WE DEAL WITH ALCOHOL, CUNNING , BAFFELING AND POWERFULL....WITHOUT HELP IT IS TO MUCH FOR US"...... stay on the path!!!!!!


Member: LT
Location: WY
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 12:01:39 PM

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Thank you all for sharing. I am having an attitude adjustment problem today. I think that happens when my rights move in. I try to get out of it, but then my rights keep moving in. I was out taking a 10th and something said to come to this site. I really need to be grateful today for the good things God has given me in life, after 7 years in the program I have come so far, but still beat myself up for my attitude towards those in my immediate family. Sometimes if they weren't around then I wouldn't be tempted with insanity. Suppose that's not realistic but, I really don't know how to deal with some situations that I have never faced in sobriety and I think the others in my life should have a program too. But they don't , they can go right along hurting people not being considerate of others and they don't know the difference. It's not fair on the other hand I have to take my inv on myself. I choose not to have an attitude problem today. Accept the things I cannot change (others), courage to change the things I can (myself) and the wisdom to know the difference. Sometimes I need to look at myself more.... quit looking at others. Thanks for letting me share, had to get down to the real problem .. ME.. Thank God for AA and self honesty (although I hate it sometimes) but the results are a greater peace then I've ever known... just gotta keep coming back. Just for Today.... Sober and sane by the grace of God. I don't have to carry other's weight. Thanks Again...


Member: LU-LU
Location:
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 12:50:36 PM

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guess who picked the topic last week.... TE HE HE HEEEE EHEHE


Member: Wouter
Location: Netherlands
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 4:47:25 PM

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well, wouter here and i did a few things today, first i calculated the amounts of drugs i didn't consume after quiting 16 months ago, 10.000 sigarettes, 2500 joints, 2000 bottles of beer, 60 bottles of wine, 15 bottles of port 12 bottles of scotch and this is a flattered guess. I almost threw up after this math...

I don't want it anymore and well, i am cured. It's over, no craving no lust no hidden desires, its just not me anymore.

This evening i didn't go to the aa but to the ai that being amnesty international. i don't want to look back everytime, but i want to do something usefull. my inner feelings have changed enormously, and one of the results of that changing is going to become an active volunteer at the amnesty international. i want to be usefull, not cynical. do good and feel good instead of doing drugs and feeling like shit, full of selfhate etc etc.

24 hour a day is not an item, but i just count in months now, go to the library and get a book from caloline knapp and know i have to be alert but not afraid. I can trust the man i am, finally.

Love, peace and vitamines.


Member: LU-LU,ALCOHOLIC/ALCOHOLIC
Location: yes i did drugs but this is A.A. ..right?
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 8:14:22 PM

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(((WOUTER))))question; if one is "cured" of alcoholism, can one then drink again,with impunity?i know the book says we have recovered from a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body, but can one ever be "cured" of alcoholism? Who the hell is carolin knapp? is she an A.A. head?is this a piece of "conference approved" literature?have you read the beautifful big book of Alcoholics Anonymous go to a meeting and get one...theres a part in there that i was reminded of when i read your words, the part about the lil' boy whisteling in the dark...are you even a member of alcoholics anonymous?love peace and ...vitamines???? huh???


Member: disgruntled  american
Location: america
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 8:54:58 PM

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al gore you're such a bore. YOU LOST ASSHOLE, face it. now show a bit of dignity, GO AWAY. you are an embarassment to the country, did you hear me? i said YOU LOST,GO AWAY, try again next time,you are such a poor loser,i can't believe it!


Member: AZbill
Location: Sierra Vista, Arizona
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 9:11:03 PM

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Good point Lulu. Bill here, Alcoholic from Arizona. Alcoholism as defined by the National Council on Alcoholism and American Medical Society on Alcoholism Committee on Definitions says in part.... The social, emotional, and behavioral symtoms and consquences of alcoholism resulting from the effect of alcohol on the brain.

I became a alcoholic simply by sitting on too many barstools and drinking too much booze. I could not have become alcoholic without drinking alcohol. Alcoholism is covered in the "Doctors Opinion". The definition of an alcoholic is defined on page 21 in "Alcoholics Anonymous".

So long as I do not drink alcohol today I will not suffer from the symtoms of Acoholism. Therefore I have recovered from alcoholism (the hopeless state) or if you prefer I am in remission. It is true that I can never drink alcohol successfully (alcoholic), but I need not behave as an alcoholic(recovery from Alcoholism).

I did not have a problem stopping drinking. I stopped drinking every day. I had a problem starting drinking. I had to learn how to stop starting to drink. LOL I once had the priviledge of drinking normally but I abused it so badly that it was removed. It does not behoove me to cry about it.

Bottom line...Make meetings, Read the big book and work the steps. And remember read only the black lines.. The white lines are in there for separation.

Bill az-bill@primenet.com


Member: (((())))))
Location:
Date: 11/20/00
Time: 9:50:23 PM

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right on,...lu-lu is back!!!!!!!!!!!!

hey girly,going tothe coffee pot!

(((((imposter)))))


Member: Jack B
Location: Palo Alto, Pa
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 2:33:58 AM

Comments

Hi I am Jack, a real alcoholic.Attitude Adjustment is a great topic.The attitude adjustment that I found for me is complete and total commitment to the AA way of life.There is so much more this program offers than just not picking up a drink for twenty four hours.If all I want out of life is being physically sober, then the third tradition and first two steps will do that.I am here for recovery and beyond, that fabulous inner journey that the steps takes us on.I was one of those who viewed the twelve steps as a series of actions that I would take but didn't believe in.Until I took them.I can say honestly that the only thing I ever got out of JUST NOT DRINKING was misery.Old saying life is life, joy is optional, the joy of living for me today is the twelve steps of AA.I have been living this way IMPERFECTLY for God willing on Thanksgiving Day 2000 for 13 years.To anyone who may have uncertainty or doubts about the steps, please don't write them off til you try them.Hang around with us for about twenty years or so, and if you still don't think its working, be my guest to try something else. God Bless all and Happy Thanksgiving.


Member: Corinne B., Alcoholic here, there & up with the cockroaches!!!
Location: Camino, CA - Not any bugs here, but I know they're up somewhere in Florida, probably - LOLOL
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 5:01:18 AM

Comments

Good Wee Hours of the Mornin' Everybody on the Discussion Site!! The Grinch that Stole my Sleep Pattern is at it again! LOL!! So, I'll take advantage of it and do what my good friend ((Avril)) tells me, and that is if you can't sleep well, stay awake well. Now, that's an attitude adjustment, right there!

One day at a time was always so hard for me in the beginning. The best example I can think of is to go back to how I used to be, prior to working the Steps, with regard to my financial situation. I used to work up a sheet of paper each payday to list Income and Bills Due. But I didn't do this just once each payday, I would do it every couple of days, and some days, I'd do it more than once! I never seemed to have enough money to make ends meet, because as soon as I saw that I had a certain amount of money left for a certain number of days remaining in the pay period, I'd figure out how much of that amount I could spend, yet not get stretched too far. So, I was, in effect, always spending all the money I could find to spend! Oh, did I ever count those pennies lying around the house, too!

I'm not exactly sure when I stopped that practice, but the amazing thing is that now that I no longer do the "spreadsheets" I always have enough money!! Well, usually, anyway. But the important part is that I no longer stress over how many days it is until payday that I'll have to live on "X" amount of dollars.

Now, here's where the attitude adjustment comes in. Tonight I checked my accounts online to discover I've become overdrawn in both of them! LOL!! Haven't done that in I can't remember when! But, it's not important. I'm sure I'll be able to talk them into refunding the charges, as it was probably a math error and I never overdraw. I have a great banking relationship, and have savings & regular checks automatically going in, so they know I'm not a flake in my accounting practices.

I can remember my Dad having a problem with one of his accounts once, and he related to me how he raised Cain with them, because he felt it was their fault (something to do with his automatic deposit getting fouled up and deposited a day or two late). Well, they did not refund his overdraft charges. I told him about the way I had overdrawn my account once and it had been entirely my error, yet I explained nicely to them that I accidentally mailed my bills out too early, and they refunded me the charges! Too much for him to fathom, admitting he'd handled it wrong.

So, in essence, if a way I've been handling something isn't working, I have to look at that and ask myself, does this way work? Might I need changing my point of view to get along better? 9 times out of 10, I do!

Thanks for letting me run on, as insomnia is just more fun this way! LOLOLOL!!!


Member: Mike M
Location: Old Cape Cod
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 7:02:13 AM

Comments

Hi Great topic and some great sharing of ES&H. That basic text of ours says our attitude and outlook will change. This is in the course of practicing the steps. I was just a guy who couldnt stop drinking on his own so all I had to do was not drink right? Not so simple. The rearranging of my thinking and ideas thruogh the spiritual principles of the program boils down to that word attitude.. I heard often early on. "Watch for resentment and selfpity. These things are poison and will cause you to drink." "If your attitude is grattitude you've got it made." Every recovery in AA I have seen has required some effort and the new attitude it brings is the reward. I have yet to hear a complaint from someone working the steps.

Newcomers. Stick around and see if you want what we have. I believe AA saved my life.

The sun is streaming in just over the atlantic and I gotta get to my job. God bless you all.


Member: Bert.K
Location: Victoria  Australia
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 7:03:25 AM

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Hi Bert.K.alkie from Australia. I heard a member say "if your attitude is gratitude you will be O.K." And I believe that to be very true for this alkie of 19+ years not having a drink ONE DAY AT A TIME and that is very important for me to remember. For my attitude towards gratitude has not been that good for the last 3 or 4 Months and reading the topic here puts me back on track, and for that I THANK YOU ALL. I thank god for A.A. and I thank A.A. for god. Bert.K.


Member: Let's wait and see
Location:
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 7:15:28 AM

Comments

Let's wait and see if a certain someone can continue with serious posts instead of childish ones. Will it last? Stay posted.


Member: Sharon F
Location: cold in Portland, Or
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 8:54:05 AM

Comments

Wouter, keep coming back. AI is fine, but it won't keep you sober for ever.. I know!! Corrine,how is Bob? I too did my finances like you used to.. now I get tempted. but then I stop and remember the fear of the bank and courts and etc.. for overdrawn, fraud, etc.. so I changed the attitude and lost the fear, and it has been quite a while since I rec'd a nasty letter of overdrawn.. Learned to wait before spending. Want to wish everyone a safe, sane, sober, and loving Thanksgiving and know that if it wasn't for AA=Attitude Adjustment I wouldn't be here grateful for my life, Wayson's life, and the fact that his children and my grandchildren have never seen me take a drink or stoned. My son remembers the "old Mom" and has forgiven and asked me to his home for Thanksgiving dinner. Without this program this would be one of the "Never in a million years". No matter what this life has tossed my way, if it wasn't for my God, AA and the fellowship, I wouldn't be able to say Thank,You!! Thank's to all for holding me up, praying when I couldn't pray, and with your love, wisdom, and knowledge, kicked my butt when it needed it this past year. Love and prayers, Sharon dos 4/1/78 slfrey@Yahoo.com


Member: Craig L
Location: Beaverton, OR
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 12:16:29 PM

Comments

I'm Craig and I'm an alcoholic. GREAT TOPIC(S)!! I heard “all you have to change is everything”. When I came into my first meetings I felt resentments toward the many “old-timers”. There appeared to be “clicks”. I heard a lot of talk about making the new comers feel welcome, but I didn’t see many people walking the walk. I am., like many of us are an extremely shy person. I feel socially inept and I kept waiting for some “old timer” to come along and show me the way. Without the program of AA I would likely still be waiting. “It’s an inside job”. First I had to learn real humility, only then could I grasp compassion. I began to force myself to talk to people before and after meetings. What I find is many “old timers” understand my shy feelings because they still have them and many new comers welcome the open hand I offer. I’ve learned I can’t work other peoples programs no matter how much time they have. I can only work my own. Every day I ask God to show me the way of service and if I’m attentive and not self absorbed, I am shown that way in the baffled face of someone in his or her first 24 hours. Thanks again for the great topic and the sincere sharing. You have really made my morning for me.


Member: loraine
Location:
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 1:09:13 PM

Comments

lets wait and pee,

te,he,he,te,he,he


Member: Frank
Location: Vancouver WA
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 1:54:40 PM

Comments

Howdy, I'll be Frank with you I am a alcoholic. My attitude today is for the most part a super blessing because I am learning to let people be them selfs. Now don' get me wrong I DON'T HAVE TO AGREE with them but this program has shows me to accept unconditionally. step 1,2,3, helps me stay their. I'm greatfull for finally letting my selt feel and find some happiness....... Thank you all for being here & GOD bless us all!


Member: barbara
Location: CT
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 4:23:02 PM

Comments

I remember hearing "the day you get on your knees is the day you get this program". So I hit my knees every morning and say a long list of thank yous. Number one is for sobriety, then serenity, then my family,friends,health,home,work, that's alot to be grateful for. I am approaching my eighth anniversary. I remember the despair thaht drove me to my first meeting, and AA was there!


Member: dean
Location:
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 5:55:32 PM

Comments

duh !!


Member: Sean
Location: Dublin
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 6:37:02 PM

Comments

I was about to post on attitude adjustment until once again I come upon the disruptive, and childish contributions from a particular few who are intent on chatter. So, I will sign off for now, readjust my attitude and try again in another day or so. Great Topic though!


Member: sister ignatia
Location:
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 7:39:47 PM

Comments

sean,

four disruptive words,and you cry all the way off the playground............LOOSER,growup


Member: George J.
Location: Montana
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 8:43:51 PM

Comments

Staying sober and living the twelve spiritual steps of Alcoholics Anonymous has been slow and yes it took time and commitment. I was a chronic alcoholic and a pagan non-believer in anything. This AA way of life has given me a new outlook on life and an attitude built on acceptance. Acceptance of what is real and not simply acceptance that i am no good, don't measure up and do unto others before they do unto you. The program brought me slowly over three hugh hurdles. That happened "one day at a time" and slowly my "attitude adjusted". Willingness to believe I didn't want to die. Openmindedness to see that my way wasn't working. Honesty just didn't come quickly and I continued to struggle with letting go of old ideas. I just don't critize, condemn, or judge others which cuts me off from them. I'm human but today with less false pride and a more flat ego. I don't find it necessary to tell people when they disagree with me. The AA traditions tell me a lot about why the AA Program will work in my life as well as in AA Groups everywhere. In AA, for me not to engage in controversy and oppose any causes but just stick to the basics WORKS. When Doctors feel you're doomed,how grateful I am to find a way to live that works. I no longer have to cry about the fact that white knuckle, water wagon, and just don't drink sobriety is the only impossible answer for me. Thank you all for sharing on this site.


Member: ((((((imposter))))))
Location:
Date: 11/21/00
Time: 9:57:21 PM

Comments

lu-lu where are you????????????????????


Member: muffett
Location: n.h.
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 9:56:19 AM

Comments

im new to this!ive been sober for one day!i dont want to drink anymore.the hardest thing for me,is that i am married to an actively drinking man, who insists that there is no problems. ineed to stay focused on me, but it's really hard. i am going to try,and i am going to do it, one day at a time.thank you for being here.


Member: Wouter
Location: Netherlands
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 1:00:14 PM

Comments

this is an answer to Lulu or to Lul, U. Which in Dutch means Prick, You. Eat your vitamines silly bastard, only babling about our pour souls and our wretched lives doesn't cure them, the software can feel better but the hardware, our bodies you know, the blood the liver etc, Lul,U need extra vitamines to rebuild and refurnish it so it becomes stronger. a fit body, remember Darwin ? Lul, U or have you read only one book, the big book....

Caroline Knapp is an Amarican author who wrote a book named ' Drinking, a love story '. Try it, little Lul,U.


Member: Mark D
Location: NH
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 1:26:28 PM

Comments

I know I'm an infant in terms of recovery, being all of 11/2 months. However, I took a day off yesterday to work on house chores. That was prime time in the recent past for me to catch a buzz and piddle my time away without much in the way of results, if I didn't outright screw something up. I guess it's still fresh enough for me to recall the drill of getting hold of some booze 1st thing in the AM, in the unlikely event that I hadn't already stocked up. The mania of blocking out my time so I could have fun, do a little work, and clean up best as I could for when my wife got home. I simply put my head down and got stuff done. Didn't press. Didn't get everything I wanted done, but it was OK.I was relaxed and happy. About midway through the day I thought of how I'd probably been feeling if I had picked up. I felt so good to not be in the throes of that compulsion. I know that it's a combination of my Higher Power; me being open to my Higher Power; being grateful and keeping things simple. It's a pretty significant attitude adjustment. Iknow that it's something that has to be worked at and maintained, but it sure feels better than back when I was scheduling my "fun".


Member: Jerry B
Location: Shrewsbury MA
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 3:18:00 PM

Comments

Hi all. I have really enjoyed reading some of the posts on here. Jennifer, keep coming back. I remember thinking the same thing. What would life be like without alcohol? I have discovered that it is wonderful. Without meetings though, my thinking could become distorted again. As a friend in Pittsburgh told me once. "Don't alwys believe what you think".


Member: 0b2
Location:
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 5:37:52 PM

Comments

wouter does lul,u really mean penis in dutch?


Member: dd
Location:
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 6:14:14 PM

Comments

in german we call a prick a wouter!!!!!!!!!

te,he,he


Member: Michael B.
Location: AZ
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 8:41:16 PM

Comments

Hi! My name is Michael, and I am a recoevering alcoholic and addict, sober today only by the Grace of God and the Fellowship. Welcome newcomers! Thanks for the sincere shares!

My attitude adjustment is a direct result of not picking up that first drink and experiencing the spiritual awakening that results from practicing the 12 Steps.

Essentially, these benefits of the AA program reaffirm daily the need for me to think in terms of "one day at a time," which, in and of itself, is an attitude that has had a moderating effect in both the darkest and brightest moments of my sobriety.


Member: ANTHONY D
Location: LEESBURG, VA.
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 10:21:29 PM

Comments

i think they were great


Member: Sean
Location: Dublin
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 11:16:49 PM

Comments

Sister ignoramous, Go screw your father and stop taking inventory on those expressing a real desire to stay sober. If I was exposed to the likes of people like you and some of the others who seem to have taken over this site, I would have left the minute I walked in 16 years ago.


Member: Rick
Location: Texas
Date: 11/22/00
Time: 11:29:15 PM

Comments

As I start yet another day of recovery, I take great hope and strength from those of you who have been abstinent and sober for many years.

I know we are to take it one day at a time, and certainly the thought of twenty or thirty years looms before me like some great, unscalable mountain. However,it gives me reassurance that this program works so well for so many.

I could really relate to the struggles of one individual here who spoke of relapsing and starting over.

When the pain of abusing alcohol drives me to seek a way to quit, I am generally quite faithful to my "new" decision. However, when some time goes by, I let my guard down and begin to wonder if I really don't have a problem anymore. I'm cured I say to myself. I can now drink responsibly and moderately.

Self-deception. Denial. Starting the vicious cycle all over again. Oh, what a wretched man I become when I convince myself that the often repeated past will somehow be different this time.

It is more than just my attitude that needs adjusting. It is my entire thought process. I have programmed myself for years to believe that I can be independent and handle my problems by myself. I am now convinced that it is crucial to stay in close contact with those who can lead the way.

Thankyou all for being here.


Member: Paul K.
Location: Alexandria,La.
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 2:23:03 AM

Comments

I feel keeping the attitude of gratitude has a major inpact on my perception of life. I realize the importance of only having a daily reprive contigent on the maintenance of my spiritual condition.In order to keep the attitude of gratitude I must depend in a power greater than me. To me that is god!! Thank God for A.A.


Member: ChuckM
Location: Alberta
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 3:40:50 AM

Comments

I'm Chuck, an alcoholic

By doing the steps I am spiritualy awake. This resulted from getting 11 new beliefs [steps 1 to 11]

With 12 new beliefs my thinking had to change. With new thinking my feelings changed and then my behavior changed. My new attitude came as a result of doing the steps.

Peace and Serenity


Member: lee
Location: peterborough
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 6:41:39 AM

Comments

Although I still have a long way to go, the program of AA is helping me to slowly change my attitude. Working the steps really helps of course. The slogans are a Godsend too. They seem to pop into my head when I need them most. 3 or 4 words usually.

Easy Does it

Keep an open mind

Keep it Simple

Remember when

One day at a time

Live and let (help) live

(any other that help you to cope on daily basis)


Member: tony g
Location: ma
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 6:49:03 AM

Comments

rather than getting all uptight over stuff, or tricky situations i just try to let it go,this seems to help.i try not to let the person ,place or thing wear me down.i have to change my attitude about it,so meditation and reflecting in a positive way always makes things better.i use prayer in my life today also .i have a relationship with a power greater than anyone or anything today.i am not afraid of it,but ,i pray i will not drink today.it's work to keep a positive attitude for me but it is worth the effort.....have a nice Thanksgiving everyone,i'm tony an alcoholic


Member: mal
Location: australia
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 8:54:39 AM

Comments

my name is mal I'm a 28 year old alcoholic. This attitude adjustment sounds to me like it may well be the answer.I just cant seem to beat this drinking though now only once or twice amonth I completely wipe myself out and spend the next day swearing it wont happen again. Its great to know that we are all fighting the same war. keep on saying NO!!!!

MAL


Member: chad g
Location: montana
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 10:09:20 AM

Comments

I'm chad alcoholic drug addict criminal attitude of grattitude,attitude means a lot to me.I believe it is one of the most important parts of my recovery and my only hope of staying sober.If my attitude goes so does my sobriety. Some warning signs of my attitude slipping are *%&#this,whats the use,life is a bi%*&. Theres a reason attitude and grattitude sound the same.


Member: Melissa B.
Location: Canada
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 11:36:55 AM

Comments

Melissa, an alcoholic... 'Don't believe everything you think' - that's priceless. Thanks for another piece of the puzzle that is my mind. I'm feeling grateful today, which means I'm feeling good. Happy Thanksgiving! Wish I was American, I love Thanksgiving dinner and ours is long over!!! Hey, I think I'll cook a turkey with all the trimmings tonight!!!!


Member: Robert
Location: Canada
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 11:58:10 AM

Comments

Hi,Robert here,a real troubled guy right now.I just relapsed again,got fired,got arrested,just got out of jail with another court date coming up.I just went throgh a court battel that lasted 2 years and cost me 8 thousand bucks.Im court ordered not to drink and I know their wathching me in this small town.I just feel that theres no more fight left in me,I don't know where to turn,things are never going to be any good again.Is suicide really such a bad option?I know it would hurt my family and my wonderful girlfreind,but I feel like Ive put them through enough.I love hearing from you all and am truly glad life is good for so many,Im just so sick,I kept down two raw eggs this morning.I want to drink so bad,I just want oblivion.I don't know where to turn,Im just trying to get trogh this horrible day untill my girlfreind gets off work so I can talk with her on the phone.I think Ill just go back to bed,but I can't sleep.Why does this life have to be so tough?Booze has ruined my life.Right now I can't see how its ever going to get better.Best of luck to you all


Member: Randy  M
Location: oregon
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 12:29:47 PM

Comments

Randy alki for sure Robert<< I can undrestand everything you feel, ive been there,all of have to some degree...Ive been sober for only 46 days but can say I have begun a new path,by the grace of my higher power..think about this...cant your higher power have the power to help you do anything?thnnk about it,and read the promises,,if you really undertsand them ,u Will get better and life does get better...as for the cost...I blew 27400 dollars this year gambling,,and thats not counting the past 5 years of it,,but i think of it this way...it cost me that much for my rehab...to push me in the right direction...Money means nothing when u think of it that way, for me any way.. Hang in there and get to meetings,and believe...IT DOES REALLY WORK,Just let it... Praying for you Randy


Member: Mark Brown
Location: Austin, Texas
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 12:40:37 PM

Comments

Hi, my name is Mark and I am an alcholic...I am not really a troubled person,thankfully...Never have lost a job due to my love affair with bourbon...Never been to jail or anything like that...Have a lovely understanding wife whom I adore...I know there are a lot of people with a lot worse problems than most...One thing I'd like to say to Robert is that suicide in NOT an option...No matter what...I am not saying this because of religion (I am free thinker)...Maybe we can help each other...I have a Yahoo e-mail address that I would be more than happy to give you...I need help in staying away from the bottle...I feel certain that if I don't, I'll end up in a world of trouble...Please let me know


Member: bb
Location:
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 1:22:31 PM

Comments

happy thanksgiving to all

bugaboo bob


Member: mike m
Location: ca
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 3:19:22 PM

Comments

whenever i'm disturbed,nomater what the cause ,there is something wrong with me! until i act on that spirtual axium and get to the alluded 4th column of step 4 im only dry. im getting there a little quicker these days but iot still takes a while. my definition of disturbed is changing though. guess ill just keep coming back.the spiritual awakening is ongoing if i keep working and acting on step three as i know that the good is the enemy of the best.


Member: William H.
Location: Elkhart, IN
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 3:23:54 PM

Comments

It's funny that the topic of this meeting is "attitude adjustment" and the attitudes seem to flair as the posts go on. Someone being called names and another taking someone else's inventory. We here at A.A. have a long way to go and thankfully it is "one day at a time". In this moment is all moments. The promises as taken from chapter 6 in the Big Book state, "IF we are painstaking about this phase of our development...." These things will materialize IF and only IF.....so to those who boast of their years of sobriety i challenge you to the quality of your sobriety, not to the quantity of sobriety. A.A. warns us in the 24 hour book not to make "tin gods" out of people. A.A. should have no leaders and only trusted servants......as per the 2nd tradition. There are those among us who would forget the true humility of the first step in saying "I can't", and need to be reminded of it on a daily basis. My sobriety is contingent upon that reminder. Those reminders walk in the door every day and say to a room full of strangers...." I can't and i heard you folks can help." That is the true humility that i so dearly enjoy at A.A.. Our primary purpose is to stay sober and to help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety. Keep comin' back, God knows that i will and go ahead and eat those vitamins man.....it takes what it takes because when you're done you're done.


Member: Sharon F
Location: Foggy, Cloudy, rainy, Portland,OR holiday
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 5:03:34 PM

Comments

No matter how much time you have or don't have in the program the quality of your program will show thru what you write, speak, and how you live your life. Yes, I have some years in this beautiful way of life and I work on talking like a duck and walking like a duck daily. If it had not been for a changed attitude via AA I would not have made it thru these past months. God let me live to get to AA and AA led me back to my God, and the Fellowship of AA has loved me when I couldn't love myself, prayed for me when I couldn't pray, laughed with me and at me, when needed, and kicked my butt with love when needed. Gratitude? YES!! Changed attitude, YES!! Thank you ALL for being here for me. Time to go to my son's for a big feast. More later...... Love and prayers for everyone of you!! Sharon


Member: Wouter
Location: Netherlands
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 5:32:31 PM

Comments

Yes, Lul,U means Prick, You and hell no, Wouter doesn't mean that in German, it means General or Army Leader, he he he...


Member: Norm P
Location: Indiana
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 7:53:30 PM

Comments

Robert-the greatest thing that ever happened to me was the day I knew I couldn't fight any more. I didn't understand it at the time but I had surrendered. Without that surrender,I would not be here 12 years later. It meant that I had run out of great ideas on how to stay sober myself and run my life. One look at it told me anybody could do a better job of that than I was doing. So,it isn't the end;it's the beginning.There is great hope for you now;seize the moment!Before we gave up fighting,there was no hope for you or me. Since I couldn't do it,I decided I might as well let those folks in AA who had done it show me how. I did not think it would work for me because I was too far gone. I just listened and did what I was told. Somebody,told me,"stick with the winners" so that's what I did. I didn't listen to everybody because some of them were full of it. They could talk the talk and that's all. I listened to those people with time in the program and worked those 12 Steps with a sponsor even when I didn't know what it had to do with staying sober. End result-Some of us are still here and all those "talkers" are back where I never want to go again because it will kill me. Hope y'all had a great holiday. I'll close with a simple prayer(the best kind in my book): "Lord,fill my mouth with worthwhile stuff,then shut me up when I've said enough."


Member: Joseph
Location: NY NY
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 8:43:45 PM

Comments

I thank you all for sharing.


Member: Nara
Location: Alhambra, CA
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 9:03:16 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Nara and I am an addict/alcoholic. Attitude adjustments huh?? I need help in that area right now. I went to go see my boyfriend on Tuesday, which was his birthday, and found him in bed with another woman. He gave me the excuse that he loved me and he was getting to close to me and he got scared, so he slept with this other woman. Then he lit the speed pipe and prceeded to ask if I wanted any. So for the last 2 days I have been hurting and trying to figure a way of keeping my mind busy.

Today is Thanksgiving and I want to use. Not only am I thinking about my boyfriend experience, but I also have to deal with my intoxicated family. I need HELP!!! I am having major cravings and I need help.

Nara


Member: fred
Location:
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 9:25:03 PM

Comments

nara, dont drink and dont smoke the crank,it will just make you crazy.go to a meeting.


Member: Nara
Location: Alhambra, CA
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 9:31:56 PM

Comments

fred, I have no way of getting to a meeting right now, so that's why I am online. I am just having a hard time due to the holidays, and catching my boyfriend cheating on me right before the holiday. My first thought is to drink and then I wouldn't have to feel the pain.

Nara


Member: john
Location:
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 9:37:14 PM

Comments

robert, once your in the system........your stuck for life.......give up the drinking ..goto aa meetings....mine are still court ordered but i havnt drank either for a year now!and im not getting into trouble either now.and yes 4mos. in jail sucked,but they wanted to give me state time. john


Member: DD
Location:
Date: 11/23/00
Time: 9:48:38 PM

Comments

i went out to shoot the turkey for dinner this morning,used a 22 cal bullet richochade in the garrage floor got me in the side of the head. spent most of the dy in emergency room.i got me a HATCHET THIS TIME IM GOING OUT AND TRY IT AGAIN.................DAMN TOM TURKEY!

DUMB DWAINE


Member: Cathy M.
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 12:31:23 AM

Comments

Hi, My name is Cathy and I'm an alcoholic. This is the first time I've been to an AA online meeting. Today my finacee and his kids went to his brothers for Thanksgiving. My daughter worked so I stayed home with her so she could have a meal between shifts and since I'm home alone now I feel like I need a meeting. I'm having an awful time with honesty. Lies come out of my mouth before I even think about it. The honesty part is the hardest part for me and I know to keep honesty is to get drunk again. I've been "sober" for 3 1/2 years, go to meetings, share, read the Big Book, but without honesty I just feel like a "cheater". I've been on my knees so many times but I know I haven't given God the dishonesty part yet. And why? I want to be sober and I want to be honest but I find myself telling lies when the truth would do! My fiancee is in recovery too and if he knew how dishonest I was with him and with myself and others, he'd leave because he works a great program. I need suggestions and help.


Member: LU-LU help i'm stuck in
Location: what looks like a christmas card
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:10:03 AM

Comments

HI ((((CATHY M.))))) 3 1/2 years? still dishonest? sucks being human...seems a whole lot of us come in with,and have a tuff tome shaking that particular "shortcoming" or "defect of character"( any one know the difference?<<L'me know>>when i realized that i was a cronic liar, ,my sponser told me to immediatly correct myself, like i'd say something silly like "oh yeah, i've seen that movie..." (never saw it!..) so i'd say something like, "I don't know why i said that"(other then the fact that i'm a cronic liar)"I HAVE NOT seen that movie..."after enough times of doing that,I find it happens much much less. IF YOUR FIANCE'(the guy having thanksgiving without you? is that wierd?what kind of lies are we referring to? never mind i don't think i want to know) WHO,"works such a great program" can't forgive your,not being perfect... well whats so great about THAT program... unless it is a case of you intentionally cheating,humiliating,disrespecting,and then having to lie about it, cause it's so much easier to f**k around,knowing you can just tell a lie about it, than it is to practice restraint,and a show of good character... and is'nt that something we strive for as a member of A.A.good luck girl, the truth is'nt so bad, to thine own self be true.


Member: Concerned member
Location: America
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:50:49 AM

Comments

((((Wouter)))) in America, and in other countries close to here as well, Wouter does mean prick...Even the little children are allowed to call each other a Wouter if they feel they have been dishonored. And ((((Sean)))) did your father fuck you? Is that why you tell other members to fuck their own? Maybe you should go see Wouter, he would gladly accommodate you.


Member: craig
Location: ut
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 4:54:06 AM

Comments

god bless and happy sober holidays


Member: LU-LU  head Angel
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 5:25:44 AM

Comments

((((nara)))) what do you mean trying to keep your mind busy? i was REALLY busy when i was smoking crank, how bout this,try a year of A.A. (or N.A. if you insist on this " Dual addict" label crap,) take one meisly year,clean up,Work the program (as it is out lined in the book)get a sponsor, go to alot of meetings and if at the end of a year you think the so called life you are living now is better than sobriety we will gladly refund your misery!that guy you have.. paleeez hope the girl was not your "friend..."sorry that happened,i hate that,it feels so awfull,someone told me this once about people like that;when THEY do mean hurtfull things, they are NOT thinking of me,my feelings, needs,or wants.and,IT IS NOT LIKE THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME. IT AINT ABOUT ME! they are ONLY thinking of themselves. and it has NOTHING to do with ME. they are NOT "doing it TO ME" they are JUST doing it.usually because they are selfish,insecure, or maybe just an all around idiot/asshole!put the pipe DOWN! get your sweet ass to a meeting,YOUR "PICKER" SEEMS TO BE OUT OF ORDER!


Member: lyro
Location: australia
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 5:37:44 AM

Comments

well hi, ive never been to this sight before. Ive been sober no hours, days or anything that great. but i would like to be. thanks for all the inspiring words.


Member: Jim Mc
Location: tx
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 9:25:08 AM

Comments

My name is Jim an Alcoholic, Attitude Adjustment, when I got to this program my attitude was this mess had to be someone else's fault. If the people around me would just straighten out, I would'nt have all these diffculties and I would'nt have to drink to cope with them. However, the people in AA quickly pointed to the Big Book and something like " our problem was of our own making " that was a bitter pill to take. Then I had to quit fighting and surrender, that did'nt seen quite right either, in my mind, were men not to fight never give up and all that crap. The list goes on and on. It took a long time to turn my life around but not nearly as long as it took for me to mess it up. Thanks to my Higher Power and the 12 step of AA. I came here with no God and no direction, AA changed all of that. I will not say all the people in my life have changed for the better but today that is their problem not mine. I wish I could say all my charecter defects and shortcomings have been removed, but they still raise their ugly heads every once in awhile and remind me there is still much to learn and work on. I know as long as I don't take a drink and don't give up on my Higher Power and this program, I will alway be open to the needed Attitude Adjustments offered to improve my life as I know it today. Thanks for listening, I do enjoy this dicussion site.......aagym@aol.com


Member: ((((((IMP))))
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 1:44:02 PM

Comments

lu-lu,

your back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

((((((IMP)))))))


Member: dena
Location: oregon
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 1:51:05 PM

Comments

hi all--dena recovering alcoholic here and doing this one day at a time.Attitude ajustment is a daily thing for me. my mind goes to stinking thinking really quickly and thankfully this program has helped me to learn new ways of coping with myself!One of those ways is a morning ritual of meditation, affirmations, and goal setting for the day.Of course number one is to not drink and to be around recovering people as much as possible thru the day.All of us have one goal --to stay sober !the lomger I am sober the better life gets. the more willing I am to look life in the face and walk thru problems trusting that my HP will know what to do, the easier life is and the happier I am.

Thanksgiving has always been the start of the party season and now I choose to party sober.I have so much more fun and I remember what I do!

I am grateful for this site and all of you. Please keep coming back I need you for my recovery.


Member: Nara
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:23:59 PM

Comments

Lu-Lu thanks for the advise. I have almost 6 months and I know no matter how much it hurts I don't drink or use. I guess I just needed to get it off my chest because it was hurting, and if I didn't I would use.

It was his roommates girlfriend. I had met her a few times, but other than that she wasn't a friend. I guess they were smoking crack together and slamming heroin. It hurts to even talk about it. This is someone that I gave my whole heart to. It hurts!!

I got through another day and I didn't drink or use. I will get through this, but I have to walk through the pain and talk about it until it doesn't hurt anymore. Everyone keeps telling me that each day it will get easier. One day at a time right?

Nara


Member: Nara
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:24:48 PM

Comments

Lu-Lu thanks for the advise. I have almost 6 months and I know no matter how much it hurts I don't drink or use. I guess I just needed to get it off my chest because it was hurting, and if I didn't I would use.

It was his roommates girlfriend. I had met her a few times, but other than that she wasn't a friend. I guess they were smoking crack together and slamming heroin. It hurts to even talk about it. This is someone that I gave my whole heart to. It hurts!!

I got through another day and I didn't drink or use. I will get through this, but I have to walk through the pain and talk about it until it doesn't hurt anymore. Everyone keeps telling me that each day it will get easier. One day at a time right?

Nara


Member: Michael G.
Location: Dallas/ Fort Worth
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:30:59 PM

Comments

Hello room My name Michael G. and under going on my thrid relaps. Im really scare for my kids and my well not yet x-wife but I have did alot of damage to them. I feel real bad and I want help them. Does anyone have any suggestion. If so please email at mkgarza@home.com or respone to here will be on later. Thx MicHael G.


Member: Rick
Location: Texas
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 3:58:24 PM

Comments

Robert,

I hope this doesn't come too late for you to find it.

Someone said here a couple of months ago,

"There is no problem so bad that alcohol can't make worse!"

The escape you will experience by giving into the urge to drink is only temporary. The problems will remain as long as you continue to choose to drink.

Please find a group near you and join, NOW!

If you feel like you are really at the end of your rope, and feel like ending your life, then call 911. They can put you in touch with someone who you can talk to.

God bless and take care of you.


Member: Dave M.
Location: Michigan
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 4:06:06 PM

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Hi, I'm Dave, Grateful to be here, If I stay grateful, I'll stay sober. I can't afford to "rest on my laurels", I must keep in contactwith God today. I am reminded that I am granted a daily reprive contingent upon the maintainance of a spiritual condition.I face another illness (cancer),but I have found that by practicing these principals my attitude and outlook remain good.Living one day at a time.Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Anonymous
Location:
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 4:57:11 PM

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Attitude adjustment all too often revolves around a desire by us to accept the unacceptable; which is no more than to hold on to old ideas. There is, on the other hand, a patience of Godly men and women that indures the misconduct of others and a world thats out of sinc and this they suffer because of their nonconformance in the eyes of others. But to allow ones self to be suduced by the world and those therein with the idea of studying toward accepting it gratefully by a change of attitude, is to go opposite the program that is designed as a way out from such things and from the oppressors that govern them. There is, both a persecution against us to keep us from the faith we desire, as there is also a persecution because of our faith we cherish. If its not for your faith that you suffer but rather for your livelyhood, know that you suffer the wrong kind of persecution. For to go about making an unmanagable life seem managable by an attitude adjustment is but to blot out the intollerablness of our situation that has turned us to God....


Member: Robert
Location: Canada
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 5:49:41 PM

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Robert here,I just want to thank you all so much for your words and your prayers,its so good to know your all out their,dealing with life,and fixing the many troubles that come our way.I feel a little better today,things don't look quite so bleak.I actually made it out of my house,got to the drugstore,got my antibuse refilled,and am now at my girlfreinds,who always makes things seem better for me.I don't know what else to say except thank God for this site,and all you great people.You helped me more than you'll ever know.And I even laughed[even though it could have been very unfunny]about the guy killing his turkey.Glad you survived Bro.If that had of been me with that 22 yesterday Id have aimed at my head,not the turkeys.Talk to you all soon.


Member: alcoholic
Location: trudging the road...
Date: 11/24/00
Time: 9:40:17 PM

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hi i'm an alcoholic

just a follow up note, thanks for all the words of wisdom, i especially like the "don't believe everything you think," i'd never heard that one.

right now i'm struggling to maintain my serenity because the relatives are staying over an extra day because of the holiday.

i think my attitude adjustment came in slow increments like many people discover spirituality, in fact i believe it was a form of spiritual awakening...not as exciting as the awakening that "put the plug in the jug" but just as valuable. i was such a liar that i required several fourth and fifth steps to get to the REAL stuff

anyway...keep coming back, it works IF you work it


Member: Edie R.
Location: S.C.
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 8:08:08 AM

Comments

Hello Everyone, I'm Edie, an alcoholic.

Welcome to the newcomers.

Robert, I am glad you are begining to feel better. Please try to get to an AA meeting as soon as possible. If you think it's good reading here, just wait until you can see the joy in the smiles and eyes of the people in AA. You can here the serinity in their laughter. It truly is amazing. I was suicidal when I first came to AA but now I hope it's a long time before I leave this earth.

Nara, if your boyfriend is still using I doubt that God's will would be for him to stay in your life. You pray about it and see what you think. Talk about it all you need to also, you are correct that is how to get it off your chest without alcohol. You and Robert are in my prayers.

When I can have an attitude of gratitude I have more serinity, but one little thing can happen and that graditude flies out the window, that's when it takes prayers and work to get it back. I can focus on a step, or see someone less fortunate than me and I usually can get some back. LU-LU said something very important, I must remember than I am human.

Thank You all for being here, I wish you Love and Peace. I promise it gets better when I go to AA and work the steps.


Member: frank c.
Location: pettsburgh pa
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 2:04:19 PM

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Hello I am frank new to aa i am 3 days sober and i hate the world every little thing makes me angry. a supermarket line, waiting for a bus,anyone who comes near me.my school and all who are i it. i am having a time of it.last week i was sober for 3 days and one of my so called friends ripped me off for 50$. that was more than i could take so i got drunk and sick. this week he's out of my life. now i dont't want anything to do with people. my catis the only friend i have in the whole world.he gives me love ad dosen't rip me off.does this get better or do you all hate the world as i do?


Member: Carol
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 2:15:49 PM

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This is the first time I have joined this site. Is AA a place for those of us who believe in a higher spirit, but not from a Christian perspective? Please share you thoughts with me. Thanks!!


Member: Bev.V
Location: U.S.
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 3:20:32 PM

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Hi, Bev,alcoholic. I once had a sponsor who said I should just listen ( in this case read)and I have enjoyed reading today.I'm sober again after being back out in the muck for 2 years. I have learned that for me it has been impossible to stay sober and live in a relationship with a drinking alcoholic...He's sober now but not by choice...Just dianosed with liver desease(cirrhosis)So attitude is hard for me right now but it seems my key is One Day At A Time...Thanks for being there for me...Bev.V


Member: adam
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 3:27:33 PM

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santa claus is coming to town,that is if youve got money.i dont and feel lousy this time of year.

adam


Member: Shekki M
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 4:56:14 PM

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Hello, My name is Shekki, and I'm a alcoholic. I hope that all of you can help me recover and become a better person in life.

Shekki


Member: 0b4
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 6:53:35 PM

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thats up to you..................


Member: Beth C.
Location: Panama City,Florida
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 8:42:04 PM

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Hi I'm Beth and I'm an alcoholic.......just started AA meetings last week,and had been dry for 2 weeks, I haven't even found a sponser yet,but last night,I took a drink ,then another,and you all know how it is. I just wanted that numbness back to dull all the pain,which of course made today harder to deal with. I feel like a failure already ,because I was starting to feel so good and alive again and I didn't even make it for a month.I would love to find someone online with some sobriety that i can email,or chat with online.If there is anyone out there who could help me,my email is flowergirl34pc@aol.com. I know that there is no substitute for a person to talk to face to face,but the town that i live in is not very big,and I am having a hard time trusting someone enough to open up to.Thanks for letting me share.......


Member: LU-LU head Angel
Location: and President of;I LOVE LU-LU CLUB
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 9:10:44 PM

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(((((((((NARA)))))))))WHAT THE HELL? whats a woman with almost six months doing with a punk-ass cheater who slams heroin and smokes crack?!!that shit is totally against the law....iiiii Carumba,we got some work t' do on your self-esteem...YOU WHAT?? gave your whole heart to, hiiim ??? TAKE IT BACK NOW! before he turns it all bitter and makes it nearly impossible for you to love when you find a REAL man!the beautiful big book talks about getting out of the problem and into the solution, and how if we are more into the solution we get further away from the problem.try working with another newcomer,the book says it helps.there is a way to have more control about the stuff that sometimes goes on in our minds,i suggest you go to a real meeting ,speak first,and ask about just that,(peace of the mind)and for th'love'o God stay for the WHOLE meeting don't "dump and run"it's rude and will most likely keep you in a state of ever lasting ignorance.Nara, YOU ARE a beautiful child of God, and you deserve to be happy,joyous n'free, you deserve to love and be loved back, and you do not have to take shit from anyone,(i don't care how nice thier d***k is)for every 1 person that treats you poorly there are at least 10 who will treat you with love and respect, the "fog" should be clearing now,so go ahead and GET SELECTIVE you are worth it YOU are important, good luck gorgeous luv LU-LU. ((((((ONE DAY AT A TIME)))))))for me, one day at a time has little if not nothing to do with "white knuckles" and the anxiety ridden fear of trying to "make it through"just one more day,hour,minute or second... the beautiful big book talks about having a DAILY reprieve, contingent upon my spiritual maintenance...which tells me i've got to keep up on my spiritual growth, lucky for me,(and much to the dismay of the ever/loving,spiritually "challenged"members of the "I Hate LU-LU club")after 16 or 17 years of drinking, the obbsession to drink was lifted in my first few weeks,and just like the book says, when i'm "tempted" I do recoil as if from a hot flame,and like it says, I react SANELY and NORMALLY!I believe that talk about "insanity"; repeating the same behavior and expecting a different result...and all I really need to do is a few simple things... one day at a time, i make a conscious effort to stay in the "sunlight of spirit"and if i by chance stray Alcoholics Anonymous teaches me all i need to DO t' get back on track.


Member: years gone by
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 9:15:48 PM

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i like flower girls,reminds me of the 60's..... .............oh yes them topless hippie chicks in long dragging dresses with no shoes on..... come to think of it...most of them didnt shave their armpits.........or legs for that matter.. hey.....thats why they wore them long dresses!! more i think about it,...i hated the 60's,them stinkin hippies,woodstock,and vd.


Member: Mark B
Location: Eielson AFB, Alaska
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 9:43:43 PM

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Mark, dope fiend alcoholic Good to see some people from overseas posting in here. I got clean and sober in Germany a long time ago and have since spent 11 years overseas. I'll be eternally greatful to the hand of AA that was there for me whenever I arrrived in a new country. I have to apologise for my fellow countrymen though because tolerance is not something that Americans as a whole are very good at. I was stationed in Holland for 4 years and lived in Amsterdam. We had a great time carrying the message and helping to start our sister addiction program. Tell Ted J. Air Force Mark said hello. I had planned on making the international in Minneapolis, but, we had a death in the family and I was back in Minnesota under difficult circumstances. I think it's very sad that people are so quick to critisism when they have no clue as to what transpires in a different culture. As long as a person is clean and sober, trying to learn and grow with the Big Book, the Dutch taught me to be tolerant and to let them have their head. In time, people come to the realization that the road narrows and the path for those in recovery is laid out in front of them. At least, thats how it's been for me. The prayer "Footprints", is my reality today. I just do the simple stuff and God carries me. I'll keep coming back cuz they didn't tell me at my first meeting that I'd get better, they told me I'd get different and for a real dope fiend alcoholic like myself, anything is better than what it was. Damn, I haven't puked all over myself or pissed myself in a long time. Ain't much for most people, but for me and where I came from, it's a miracle.


Member: Cathy S.
Location: Nashville, TN
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 10:34:42 PM

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Hey Everybody! Cathy here, alcoholic. Great topics! I haven't visited this site in quite a while, but I'm really glad that I did so tonight. I have really enjoyed all those who have shared so openly and honestly about their experience, strength, and hope! Thank You.

My attitude is in check tonight - I'm filled with gratitude, for I've made it through another holiday clean and sober! What a wonderful thing! When I consider the consequences.....(and trust me, I've had 'em) well let's just say it ain't pretty! I know that it is through no real feat of my own, but simply by the Grace of God, and with the help of people like yourselves, that I made it through even one more 24 hour period!

For those who are new to the program, or those just thinking about joining us on this path to recovery....It really does work if you work it! Shoot, like Mark B., I haven't puked or pissed on myself in a really long time either! How cool is that?! Thanks Mark for the reminder! Have a great night ya'll -


Member: Bob S.
Location: Salt Lake
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 10:39:23 PM

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To: Beth C......I'm an old alcoholic named Bob. At mtbikerbob@dellnet.com...hope you've had some other responses from people here who can give you help and guidance. Ignore the rest. AA is where sick and crazy people go; fortunately we're not all sick and crazy on the same day. You'll find good wisdom and sincere help from most. There is nothing wrong with the drinking last night. I'm glad you survived it and can still seek help. It takes courage to do what you are doing. It is 'average' early in efforts at sobriety, but I'm sure it makes you feel somewhat hopeless and a failure. I don't think you will ever find (many) people here or at face 2 face meetings who have not experienced similar and worse situations than yours. Keep doing what you are doing and things will work out and you will be OK. People like you, who seek help, lapse and come back, are the survivors, not the casualties of alcoholism. God care for you..Bob


Member: Satan
Location: Hell
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 11:28:44 PM

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SPIRITUAL, NOT RELIGIOUS" ??? The steps are presented as a "spiritual, not religious" way of recovery from, at last count, over 500 different "diseases." Group members, who now number between 10 and 15 million, often claim the steps are responsible for saving their lives.

The first three of the twelve steps are:

1. We admitted we were powerless over (insert any one of over 500 "spiritual diseases") and our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

These first steps serve the purpose of breaking down the new recruit's autonomy. In the first step, the "pigeon" or "baby" must admit that he has no resources within himself to change his own behavior and, although rarely stated directly, that he can't make his own decisions in life. Someone else must do that for him.

In the second step, he generally must first confess insanity; that he can not trust his own thoughts. He now must choose a "higher power." While much pretense is given to a freedom of choice on what one choooses for a higher power, the main point is that the indoctrinee looks to the group elders and doctrine, rather than his own conscience and religious beliefs, for a definition of that God. Although he can't trust his own thoughts, he can trust the elders and doctrine.

For example, if someone, as the A.A. story goes, should choose a doorknob as his higher power, he will be constantly confronted on how to relate to it. In the third step, he must turn his will and life over to the doorknob, and in later steps pray to it in a specific fashion. Whatever his prior religious beliefs, piece by piece, he will be pressured to accept A.A. doctrinal beliefs about God.

Much of the language of the steps was carefully chosen to avoid "confusing" potential recruits. They might reject "the program" as a religious sect. The word "sin" was changed to "defects of character," "confess" to "admit," "wretched sinner" to "powerless," "God" to "higher power," "confession" to "fifth step sharing," "bearing witness" to twelfth step sharing" and "conversion" or "recruitment" to "carrying the message."

Early A.A. members knew that if they were seen as just another religious sect they would have to follow the rules other religious groups happily abide by in this country. They changed their language and changed the sacred text from the Bible to "The Big Book." They changed their self-description from their pro-Nazi forerunner group's "more spiritual than religious" to "spiritual not religious." This enabled a religious mind-control cult to better deceive not only potential recruits, but to great success in infiltrating all our national institutions.

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Member: curious george
Location:
Date: 11/25/00
Time: 11:55:20 PM

Comments

hi satan, ive always wanted to meet you.do you have horns? is hell really hot?are there boogie men down there too?have you seen gog or magog down there? is it true that there are naked wild women running all over the place?do they have hot coco all the time?

curious


Member: Jim G
Location: Palm Harbor, Fl
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 12:07:15 AM

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Hi All! I'm Jim G and I'm an alcoholic! Unfortunately, today is my first day back. I was sober for five years and life was going along pretty well. Except that I had stopped going to meetings and staying sober was easy. So easy, that I knew I would be able to have a drink and handle it. That was three years ago and I'll bet I haven't put seven sober days together since.

Now I am near bankruptcy, physically ill, mentally tormented and afraid of my own shadow. I can't tell you how scared I am right NOW! I wanted to go to a meeting tonight but couldn't work up the courage to leave my apartment. But, I do know there is an easier softer way and after I get off work tomorrow, I will find a meeting. Thanks for letting me share (whine) :)


Member: Satan
Location: Next Door
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 12:15:55 AM

Comments

Actually George, the weather is cold but the beer is warm. Go figure.


Member: ~deb
Location: NW
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 2:05:14 AM

Comments

Carol~ "...came to believe that a power higher than ourselves could restore us to sanity". "Higher power" is different for everyone and of our own perception. The name God is used often in AA but is understood to stand for each person's own Higher Power, be it spirit, the AA group, a doorknob... That's what I think is so cool about AA, it's totally non-judgmental and accepting of everyone, the only requirement is a desire to quit drinking.

~deb


Member: Edie R.
Location: S.C.
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 6:59:27 AM

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Jim G. welcome!!! It is not unfortunate that today is your first day back, it is instead fortunate. I did the exact same thing, after 5 years in AA I stopped going to meetings and thought I could handle alcohol again, I drank for 2 1\2 years before returning. I have been back in AA for 3 1\2 years and you can get back what you had before and more. Well I don't know about the physical part, when I went back out I drank myself right into a diabetic so that part I had to accept. One thing I now know for sure is that I am definitly an alcoholic. It took me 4 white chips this time but you can do it, don't give up, hang in there. AA welcomed me back with opened arms. This is the better way of life for me and no more stinking thinking for this gal.

Love you, Edie


Member: Bev. V.
Location: U.S.
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 9:22:36 AM

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Hi,Bev,alcoholic....I am so glad I found this sight.. Thanks to all of you for sharing....


Member: Jackie M.
Location: Oyster Bay, LI
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 10:26:40 AM

Comments

deb, Let's get real. AA is extremely religious and it is absurd to say that one can choose a doorknob as a higher power. Steps three, five, six, seven,and eleven become totally meaningless using a doorknob or anything else except on all knowing diety as one's "GOD".Why not just be upfront about it and let people make up their own minds before they join AA?


Member: Rick
Location: Texas
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 12:34:59 PM

Comments

Satan,

True to your character, you have attempted to distract us from our purpose here with doubt and confusion. Though interesting, your opinions are best expressed at the coffee pot.

We are sharing our experiences and discussing attitude. I am wondering if you have anything worthwhile to add.

Oh, and next time, let's look at the ways AA is different from a church or religious sect. This might prove to be a most useful exercise for you.

Now, Get thee behind me, Satan!


Member: Bruce
Location: Texas
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 12:36:22 PM

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To the person signing on as "Satan"...I was just wondering how anyone could appear to be so intelligent and yet be so "STUPID" at the same time! Of course you did sign on as "Satan" didn't you?


Member: Clarinda Neuman
Location: Mankato
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 4:28:39 PM

Comments

Hi I'm an alcoholic. I've been drinking for 2years. I'm 15. My mom died when I was 13. She died b/c of alcohol. She got hit by 3 cars on the highway by Truman. I have a sister thats in AA too. I've smoked pot 3times in my life. I never really liked it.When we were using we never realized that it would get this far that we would be addicted to it. We think back to how we were using and how we did stupid stuff when we were using and the things that we did to get our stuff we think why am I still alive why am I here?Its very hard to stay sober. I've been sober for almost10 months. It will be 10 months on Dec. 18.I'm glad to see how long this thing is and to see all these people getting sober and staying sober. Well I guess thats it and I wish you all good luck on your sobrity.


Member: JIM K.
Location: LITTLE CREEK, VA.
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 6:14:52 PM

Comments

HI EVERYONE I'M A DRUNK AND JIM IS THE PROBLEM, HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING WELL.IT'S BEEN WEEK'S SINCE MY LAST MEETING, I JUST KEEP MAKING EXCUSES NOT TO DO WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING. WITH 12+ YR'S SOBRIETY AND IT GOES TO SHOW THAT THIS DESEASE STILL TELLS ME THAT I DON'T NEED MEETING'S. I KNOW OTHERWISE, JUST GOT LAZY AND EGOTISTICAL I'M SURE. BUT READING ALL THE ENTRIES HERE HAS GIVEN MY THE DESIRE TO GO TO A MEETING OUT IN TOWN AGAIN, THANK'S YA'ALL FOR KEEPING ME SOBRER 1 MORE HOUR. IT JUST MAY HAVE BEEN THE HOUR THAT SET ME BACK ON THE ROAD OF HAPPY DESTINY !!! AND IT WAS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THROUGH THE GRACE OF GOD AND YOU I DIDN'T DRINK JUST NOW. MUCH LOVE, A LIFETIME OF GRATITUDE, JIM K.


Member: mike
Location: way out west
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 8:36:48 PM

Comments

satan my foot. my enemy is within. religious, why not at all. more than half the members out here don't work any steps. the count isn't exact as that half keeps on changing and sometimes coming back. a few seem to stay around for a while on fellowship but after a while they seem to get smarter than hell and also madder than hell too at which point they ussually make a choice, if the poison inside doesn't kill them first. i heard a speaker many years ago who coined a phrase "happy just like i ain't got good sense". guess i'll just keep ploding this spiritual path and tone down my smarter.


Member: mike
Location: way out west
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 8:36:55 PM

Comments

satan my foot. my enemy is within. religious, why not at all. more than half the members out here don't work any steps. the count isn't exact as that half keeps on changing and sometimes coming back. a few seem to stay around for a while on fellowship but after a while they seem to get smarter than hell and also madder than hell too at which point they ussually make a choice, if the poison inside doesn't kill them first. i heard a speaker many years ago who coined a phrase "happy just like i ain't got good sense". guess i'll just keep ploding this spiritual path and tone down my smarter.


Member: A.A...C.I.A.
Location: EVERYWHERE
Date: 11/26/00
Time: 8:42:03 PM

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A REMINDER:the topics are "attitude adjustment"....and "one day at a time"....