Member: Butch S.
Location: Ridgeland Ms.
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 11:50:44

Comments

My name is Butch I'm an ALCOHOLIC and any thing else i take elsewhere.PROBLEM SOLVING "Quite as important was the discovery that SPIRTUAL PRINCIPLES would solve all my problems.


Member: Robert T
Location: UK
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 11:52:03

Comments

Protecting Sobriety

I could find no topic so assume I am the first one here (although I have just found this page by [accident?]). What a wonderful surprise.

I am sober 3 months and someone who found aa at around the same time as me and whom I felt I was travelling with has been drinking for the last two weeks. In fact he was drunk at last nights meeting. This arouses in me such anger because he is claiming 3 months sobriety and as a result I feel my sobriety is threatened. No one at the meetings will say to him that he is lying and I can barely look at him it makes me so angry. I am in no position to judge having 'slipped' many times before. How should we take practical steps to protect our precious sobriety?


Member: SusanM
Location: Ontario
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 12:21:04

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Protecting Sobriety hi Robert I found your post interesting because I too had three months  sobriety at this time last year and I threw it away to 'go out' I am so remorseful now because it is hard to get back I would urge you to listen to me and others like the man of whom you speak the tools are there to use I didn't choose to use them but you can and listen when they tell you to keep coming back I was told that was my mistake that I did not keep coming back. SusanM


Member: Susan M
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 12:41:34

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I am sorry my post appeared run on. I thought I was following posting instructions.

What I wanted to say about maintaining sobriety for three months was that the tools are there to use. I had three months too, at this time last year. I chose not to use those tools and lost my sobriety. I am still trying to get back. Listen when AA's tell you to 'keep coming back'. That was a mistake I made, not to.


Member: Judyrose M.
Location: Boston,Ma
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 12:55:42

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Hi my name is Judyrose and I am an alcoholic. I guess the topic is " what keeps you sober?" For me,honesty about my problem with drinking, meetings within one day and a touch of the grace of God.

Thank you for being here for me today.


Member: Anne
Location: California
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 13:11:26

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Hi, my name is Anne and I am an alcoholic. I am glad I found this page...I was sober for 12 years and have been chipping around for the last year...I have lost contact with a lot of my old friends because I moved and the person I live with has started drinking...I thought I was safe and would never drink again...boy, was I wrong...I need to change my environment and really get back to regular meetings..Anyone out there who has had similiar experiences I would love to hear from you. Thanks


Member: Adam B.
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 13:19:05

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I would like to hear about the 4th step.


Member: Mark C.
Location: Shelter Island,N.Y.
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 13:24:29

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Hi my name is Mark and i am an alcoholic. "What keeps me sober" The first thing that comes to mind is I don't do the things I used to do ,Oh yea besides goin' to meetings,I had to give up alot of my old 'FRIENDS''PLACES" AND THINGS. There is a live chat room for 12 steppers that I just discovered and it needs members it's at www.talkcity.com/webtv/home.htmpl?channel=realrecovery My handle there is ravenswaven.


Member: Merle P.
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 13:36:52

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Merle, alcoholic. My sponsor told me to do the 4th step exactly the way it was written in "The Big Book." I thought it was very strange until I did it that way and then brought my list to her to do the 5th step. It changed my life. "The Big Book" is the instruction book. If we learn it and follow its' suggestions we get another chnace to live a good and meaningful life.


Member: Lisa L
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 13:38:36

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Hi Im Lisa, alkie... Protecting my sobriety is the most important thing in my life. Im sober almost 6 years now and some days I have a fight with my husband, or my self esteem is dragging on the floor...but I go to any lengths to protect my sobriety...because without it I wouldnt have a husband...maybe I wouldnt even have a floor to drag my self esteem on. Spring is so beautiful when you are sober.


Member: Lynn S.
Location: USA
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 14:15:31

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To Robert T. The only requirement for AA membership is a "desire" to stop drinking. Your friend is there isnt he? But for the grace of god it is not you... Pray for your friend, anger is what would threaten your sobrriety, not your friends pain. God Bless.


Member: /Doris H
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 14:16:09

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Hi y'all, My name is Doris and I am an alcoholic. WHAT IS WITH THE WAY THIS PAGE IS SCROLLING TODAY? tHIS IS very HARD to read. Is there any way to fix it? I'll contribute later. Doris


Member: jmiles@viperlink.net
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 15:07:51

Comments

hi im joyce and i have been sober for 16 years and i am glad i found this page


Member: Jim D.
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 19:09:58

Comments

I'm Jim, and I'm not sure what I am except hung over. Sobriety--about 10 hours, and I've about had it with feeling like this. What keeps me sober? Nothing yet. What do I think might keep me sober? Don't know, but getting this guilt off my chest might help. Guess it's time I found a group.


Member: Linda P from  CA, USA
Location:
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 21:07:52

Comments

Hi, Linda an acoholic. Since this is a different format I will keep this truly brief. What keeps me sober is my relationship with God, the fellowship of AA, and my willingness to go to any length. Anne, keep coming back. and check out the Coffee Pot meeting also. Love to all. Linda P.


Member: cori r
Location: michigan
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 21:15:58

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glad you are all here. my name is cori and just for today i am sober. the halt of the program comes to mind i must try not be hungry angry lonely tried. than god that friend was at a table but for the grace of god go i. i cna learn much from someone who still suffers


Member: Mike W.
Location: Eastern Montana
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 21:16:04

Comments

I'm Mike, an alcoholic. When I first got to this program, I had to go back out after two months and wreck more havoc on my life. I drank continually for two weeks,lost a second marriage and almost lost my career. When I came back into the program I struggled for several weeks and was on the brink of ending my life. I took the time to read the steps and saw that I had no higher power and did not believe in the concept of a higher power. I then decided to pray to this "non-existing" being. After several days, the desire to take my life left me. So for me, what got me sober was the willingness to let God work in my life. What keeps me sober today is a relationship with a caring God. I also have reponsibilities (four children) that I choose not to damage by raising them in the same dysfunction I was raised in. Thank God I am able to make that choice today. Jim D., your first meeting may be difficult to attend, but if you throw yourself into this program, I can guarantee that your life will become so much more than you can possibly imagine. I wish all you fellow AA'ers continued 24 hours of sobriety.


Member: Linda M
Location: Ontario, Canada
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 21:30:04

Comments

I'm Linda and an alcoholic

One way I protect my sobriety is by making sure I always have a way out if I am in a situation where drinking will be going on or where I'll be with people who upset me and tempt me to behave in old ways. In early days I needed to limit my time with my family of origin as they really got to me, the way they drank and lived. They seemed to try their best to torment me, or so I thought. My brother-in-law was one of the worst and I always came away from any family visits as if I could kill him. My serenity would be non-existant and my sobriety threatened. I know that I am responsible for how I react to the behaviour of others but I also know my limitations. I have a temper and it's best if I take care not to expose myself to these situations for too long. I also made sure I had phone numbers in my purse or pocket just in case. Going to lots of meetings, talking honestly to people I could trust and asking for help each morning, giving thanks each night all were insurance for maintaining my sobriety.

It was a beautiful fresh spring day today and I was able to enjoy it because I was sober and felt terrific.

Love to all, Linda M


Member: Paul C
Location: Antioch CA
Date: 03 May 1998
Time: 21:56:30

Comments

Hi everyone. Paul the Alkie. Here's my formula for problem solving. HOW. Honesty, Openness, and Willingness. Add to this a whole lot of meetings. Finally stir in several daily communications with my God and now I have a fair chance of dealing with those daily issue that come with life. Hey, this is going to be a great meeting. With a least 3 different topics going on were all sure to learn something new.


Member: Bill K
Location: Anaheim, CA
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 00:08:40

Comments

Hi everyone. The question seems to be "what keeps one sober?" Hmmm...honestly, I'm not sure. But, I do know the opposite, it's drinking. Drinking gets me drunk and when I get drunk I do a lot of really stupid things and end up in a lot of trouble. I have a few ideas what keeps me sober (this time, and I got sober on 10/1/90) but I am not "real sure" which really works. The reasons I remain sober seem to fall into the catagories: 1. SURRENDER: The first thing I had to do was surrender (give up) to the idea that I could ever drink successfully again. After several years of trying to get sober coupled with 3 DUI's, attempted suicide, lost marriage, lost profession and most of my things I fianlly hit such a severe rock-bottom that I HAD to get sober. This was step 1 for me. 2.REALIZED: Became as willing as the dying can be to understand that my ideas were not good for leading a reasonably successful and productinve life. I began to realize that I MUST AND NEEDED to listen to others because my best thinking got me where I was. I became teachable and a true student. This was step 2 for me. 3.THERE IS A GOD AND I'M NOT: I came to believe that I was a very self-centered person and only the help of something greater than myself could really be of help. This was step 2 and 3. I made the decision and have been making that decision every day for several years now. 4.ACTION: Faith without works is dead faith. I was told early on that this is a program of action; not philosophy! No matter what I thought or felt I should do the appropriate action as deemed by those who know more than I. The first thing they told me was to not drink. Next I did the following: Went to many, many meetings, got a sponsor, did the steps, went to step and big book meetings, did panels in jails/detoxes, tried to be of assistance to AA men as I could, stayed 1 year in a recovery house, read all the AA literature that was available, became a GSR and Intergroup representative, prayed and mediated, kept a diary/journal to "watch" myself and got work and paid my bills to the best of my ability.

I still do these things (although not as much and less intensely) but I have managed to stay sober and am actually feeling some serenity at times. Hmmm...I really didn't think it would take as long as this but I am very gratified with the results to date. I would love to hear from anyone on this sobriety thing and you can contact me at billkl@exo.com. My wife is also interested in helping others to get and stay sober. We love our sobriety so much we want to give it away as much as possible.


Member: jrr
Location: far right border
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 01:08:09

Comments

someone fix this site... ridiculous.. you tecchies drunk this week..? SNAP OUT OF IT AND FIX THE DAMN MARGINS


Member: Barb B                   
Location: W PA
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 01:28:36

Comments

Barb B, Alcoholic, and ain't it a great day to be sober! What keeeps me sober is everything everyone just shared about, chasing my recovery like I chased my drinking, meeting makers make it. Working the steps. First 3 steps are the give up steps (surrender) 4 5 6 and 7 are the clean up steps, 8 and 9 are the make up steps and 10, 11, 12 are the keep up steps. For the fellow concerned about the other drunk still using, this is a good time to start working that first step, you are powerless over that person, step 2 says a Power Greater than yourself will restore you to sanity (not that drunk, unless you are making him your HP) Step 3, turn your will and life over to the care of God (not the drunk) and so now the spiritual principle that always blesses me, is on page 449 in the Big Book. Acceptance.....there are no coincidences in God's world, "and acceptance is the answer to all my problems today, When I am disturbed, it is because I find some person, place, thing, or situation--some fact of my life--unacceptable to me, and I can find no serenity until I accept that person, place, thing or situation as being exactly the way it is suppose to be at this moment.........I need to concentrate not so much on what needs to be changed in the world as on what needs to be changed in me and in my attitudes. pg.449 big book. God I love this program. Room Hug


Member: Linda P
Location: CA, USA
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 02:10:22

Comments

Hi, Linda an alcoholic--techs-thanks for changing the format back to where it was initially when I started. It is lots better for reading. Keep up the great job. This site has been a wonderful asset to my sobriety. I have found no other meeting sites that can compare to the quality of one. The three meetings meet every need for me. I attend F2F also, but this is fabulous. What is the usual or average donation per month being made, if that is okay to ask. I wish to contribute to the 7th Tradition, but am uncertain to the amount that would be reasonable. I know what I contribute in F2F meetings, however I am also using up coffee supplies, expense for renting the room, and the utilities. I have no idea the operating expense for a web site. Clue me in.


Member: Gary S.
Location: San Diego
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 03:44:14

Comments

The reason some people in our fellowship have slipped is because they stop going to meetings and they stop praying to a higher power. Plain and simple. There are other reasons, of course, like not working the steps....Thru the Grace of our Higher Power, whom I choose to call God, I have almost 18 years of sobriety. I would be glad to share my story if you would like a copy by email at kidsvid@flash.net.


Member: Allan.L.
Location: Southport, UK.
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 05:47:29

Comments

Protecting Sobriety.

Congratulations Robert T., on your 3 months sobriety. It's sad that your fellow traveller is in denial about his drinking, but this should be a graphic example, to you, of how fortunate you are to have accepted your alcoholism. Your task, at the moment, is to deal with your own anger. You can't control other people, and you can't be honest for other people. Let go and have faith. Be a power of example to your fellow traveller.


Member: Bonnie B.
Location: Michigan
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 08:26:55

Comments

My first two sponsors went back out -- I got sponsors who had what I thought I wanted -- an easier softer way. I made a decision that I really WANTED sobriety and found a sponsor to help. STICK WITH WINNERS!. I presently drive a fellow to meetings who from time to time has obviously been drinking. I could say something to him but I feel he already knows and I think about how awful it must be for him and so I continue to love him until he will come to love himself and hopefully he will make the decision to want sobriety more than anything.

I'm glad I found this place. I'll be back!


Member: Jane
Location: Ma.
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 08:31:34

Comments

"Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path" are the sweetest words in the world. These words are in the beginning of Chapter 5 in the AA Big Book, The original words were "never have we seen..." I have not seen an alcoholic drink again who has thoroughly followed the path. Just after that quote comes " half measures avail us nothing". The living out of these suggestions from "How it Works" above, protects my sobriety.

jrr you are a delight! Enjoy Linda P., Doris, Sanders, so many more. Love to all.


Member: Bonnie C
Location: Seattle
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 12:26:28

Comments

Hi Bonnie here/alcoholic, Hi extended family, (((ROOM-HUG))) so awesome to be here and sober today. I have webtv and when the disc/cof pot fill up it starts to cut my page off and I can no longer read new posts or post. so wha wha wha- so if you post anything to me personally I might not respond buts thats only because i cant see it. I havent read last weeks archives, thats when i catch up on last weeks meetings. by the way the 12x12 never fills up, hmmm, interesting, that might be an answer to why there are problems in staying sober and getting happy joyous and free. SSSHHHHHH- dont tell anyone but the secret to staying sober is just DONT take the first drink no matter what, I didnt have any honesty when I got here and when I get pissed i dont think of steps or sayings or nice people, I just DONT drink. It is NOT an option anymore. for if I drink or use, everything I'm drinking at will surely be gone anyway. ROBERT T. -UK to thine own self be true, there but for the grace of God go I. ANNE-CA- was 10 yrs sober and thought I was dying, sober, not happy, had to work codependent issues and then I found a new group, actually moved to a new state, no rules to this thing, except dont drink. ADAM B- go into the archives and click on the 12x12 meeting from about 3 weeks ago, we discussed the 4th step. JIM D.- just dont drink my friend and keep coming back, or get to a meeting or rehab. ((fayla)) ((mary w)) sorry u girls arent feelin well, I love this group so much, Hey to all my brothers out there defending my freedom to be here (((hugs))) Jason, mike, etc. all those that come here and share their heart, thank you. Blessed, I am. God Bless all that venture here. *********************************************** bonzoc@webtv.net


Member: Tom S
Location: Prince Rupert B,C
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 14:26:15

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Member: Peter G.C.
Location: Western Massachusetts
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 15:15:14

Comments

I was killing myself, and distroying my family with my drinking. Through pressure from my wife, I went to a rehab. Since 7-24-92, Things have started to change. Now my wife and I are going to our seprite meetings, and the change pace has really picked up. Now some of my children are back and in the AA rooms. It is truly God given. My health, famly, and friends are starting to return


Member: Phillip
Location:
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 15:34:45

Comments

Hi, Phillip, Alcoholic.

"Alcoholic": This is the first time I have ever said this to a group or myself. I don't know whether to be happy or sad. For right now, I think I'm going to be a little sad.

I know that it's going to be difficult for me to quit drinking. I'm going to have to change a lot and develop new habits.

I have been trying to quit since June 1997. I always start back when I feel stronger both physically and emotionally. It's at this point that I feel in control. I always reason that I drank a lot in the past because I was under pressure, etc. Then, a month later, I would start again. This is the typical on-again, off-again cycle of my addiction.

I also started drinking again because I was not honest with my wife about how alcohol really effects me. How can she help me to stop if she doesn't know the truth?

I'm just going to keep trying. That't the only thing I know to do. I'm going to use the same strategy I did when I quit smoking many, many years ago. I began the process of quitting a year prior to successfully kicking the habit. I never gave up.

June 1st will be a year since I started quitting drinking. Hopefully, I will quit for good this time. But I'm still not 100% sure if I will succeed this time.

I think I took the first real step today (above)by admitting to myself and others that I am an alcoholic. Next, I'll ask my wife for help.

But I'm really skeptical about AA support groups and who and what an alcoholic really is. That's another reason I have been unsuccessful in the past: I don't relate very well to the people here. Other than having a problem with handeling alcohol, I'm a happy person with a fulfilling life. Many alcoholic people here seem so depressed and appear to have many deep social and psychological problems. I don't seem to be one of you. Therefore, in the past, I reasoned that because I'm not like "one of those AA alkie people", I'm not really an alcoholic. (I'm sorry if the truth hurts some people here, but maybe it will help others out there like me).

I think that one of the most important steps to my recovery is accepting the title of alcoholic and finding a way of relating to it. All of the sudden, I have this new stigma that adds a completely different demension to my personality and character makeup. I don't want "Me" to change that much -- I just want to quit drinking.

Let's just say I'm half way there. Is there anyone out there who can relate to me?

In the meantime, I'm just going to keep quitting every day.


Member: Nancy L.                     
Location: Pacific NW
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 16:40:29

Comments

Hi , my name is Nancy and I`m an alcoholic. I stay sober each day by never forgetting the terrible sufferring my drinking caused me and my family. Especially the physical and emotional to pain I caused myself when I wold get drunk during the day and then lay awake all night not able to sleep and being terrified that my family would find my empty bottles and know I was drinking again.Nancy


Member: Jack B
Location: Ma
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 17:36:58

Comments

I'm jack, an alcoholic. I stay sober one day at a time with the help of my higher power who i choose to call God, and the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. I was introduced to A.A after hitting bottom twelve years ago. I continue to go to meetings, ask for help, and carry the message of A.A. Without doing these things I probably would be drunk today, or worse. Thanks for being here.


Member: Cate
Location: Napa Valley, CA
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 17:44:46

Comments

Hello, everyone. I'm Cate, a real alcoholic. This is my first time sharing in this meeting. Welcome to the newcomers to AA, and thank you to all who have come before me, in this meeting and in sobriety. I have been in the program since May of 1989, but have less than five years of sobriety. The reasons? The denial, the dishonesty, comparing myself to others, "I'm not like those people" and dependence on "near-beer and non-alcoholic" wine to continue feeding my addictions when I was ostensibly sober. It took heavy attendance at meetings and continual study of the Big Book and the 12 steps and traditions before I finally saw how weak my faith in HP was and how dishonest I was being. Two phrases help me stay sober today: "Don't drink--no matter what," and "Isn't that like snorting non-narcotic drugs?"

I remember getting physically sick when a rambling drunk stood up in a meeting one night. I realized that my reaction was shame that I had done the same thing and fear that I would do it again. Now when I sit in meetings and judge other peoples' programs or find myself annoyed with someone, I know that it is my own program that needs attention. (My sober husband reminds me of this whenever I get annoyed with him.) Steps 10, 11, and 12 help a lot with that. The very best tool that the program suggests, though, is a sponsor. I've been through four, and the longer I am sober, the higher my standards have become. When I finally changed my sobriety date over the O'Douls, I summoned the nerve to ask the woman I had originally sought as my sponsor (She hadn't volunteered, so I didn't have the nerve to ask her for a few years.) Eventually my pride seemed less important than my program. When that sponsor moved to New York, I asked a woman new to town who had the same spiritual qualities and really practiced the steps and the principles of the program.

Thanks for sharing, for being here, and taking the time to maintain the web site.


Member: Eddie G
Location: Waianae Hawaii
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 17:54:40

Comments

Hi, my name is Eddie and I am a Alcoholic

It is my experience that if you Emerse yourself in the program of AA, you will find all the protection that you need.

I once was afraid of alcohol, I believe it was a healty fear, because this fear keep me out of harms way. Today I respect alcohol, I know what It has done to me, and what it still can do if I choose to pick up again. The obsession to drink has been lifted by the mercy of a loving Gods.


Member: julie k
Location: uk
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 19:00:50

Comments

Hi I'm Julie and an alcoholic struggling at the moment with the thought of a higher power, even though I know I mess up on my own. About 5 years ago was the last time I went to a meeting - time to get the nerve to go back. Getting sobriety back has got to be the number 1 thing and reading this page it seems regular meetings and 12 stepping is the way for alot of people. Has anyone tried another way thats kept them sober?


Member: Milas
Location: Ca
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 19:25:21

Comments

Hi, I'm Milas an Acholic I stay sober with the help of a loving God, a terrific home group, and a very human sponsor. Philip - when I first got here, I thought I was under qualified also. If drinking is destroying any part of your life, you don't have to hurt yourself any longer. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. Before you can be honest with your wife, you must be honest with yourself. There is One who can help, I hope you find Him Milas


Member: Jack B
Location: San Diego Ca.
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 23:08:10

Comments

Hi My name is Jack and I am a recovering alcoholic. When I first got sober I did'nt beleive I belonged here either. I saw the differances between me and other alcoholics, now I see the similarities. I also felt that I did not need to change, that I just drank to much. Time has taught me different. Get the book and read it. Find a sponser and a power greater than self.


Member: TinaF
Location: Florida
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 23:24:31

Comments

Hi - I am an Alcoholic, my name is Tina. I missed my usual meeting tonight and wass thrilled to find this site!. Have been resisting the purchace of a computer for years (afraid I might do too much work) so this whole internet thing is brand new to me. On the topic of How we stay Sober - for me its total Honesty, Acceptance and Surrender - ONE DAY AT A TIME. To Philip - I hope you keep coming back - eventually you will find that there are people "just like you" who maybe skeptical at one time have made real progress in recovery through the wonderful fellowship of AA. I also thought I was a very "happy person with a fullfilling life" and relating to many of the people in the rooms with major problems was difficult. You are on your way by admitting your disease and knowing that YOU need to CHANGE. Sounds like you've got the HOPE that the first step brings - now maybe you need some of the FAITH that the 2nd step brings "Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to Sanity. Faith in a Higher power will bring you much more success in Recovery than "help from your wife" Support from loved ones is something I am extremely grateful for - I am truly blessed however the Willingness has to come from within. Thanks for letting me share. I am delighted to be alive and sober today - here's to another 24........


Member: Bill K
Location: Anaheim, CA
Date: 04 May 1998
Time: 23:27:06

Comments

Hi everyone, it's Bill K. again. Couldn't help replying to Phillip's question re being an alcolholic or not (kinda like "to be or not to be? eh, that's a question?). I have listened considerably over the years and have come to certain conclusions: 1)the only person who can truly identify themselves as an alcoholic is the person themselves. Others can certainly say the word and "point their finger" at someone who is appearing like an alcoholic, but it usually doesn't do the alcoholic much good. It's said that "after a while we can't tell the true from the false" and I believe that alcohol is so powerful that we can be fully deluded into thinking that "it's not really a problem." For several decades I denied the fact that I was an alcoholic, only to make the "discovery" in 1990. It has become, for me, knowing that I am an alcoholic, one of the greatest gifts in my life. Without surrendering to this fact I would not be doing as well as I am today. My attitudes and beliefs have changed drastically since I have done the steps and work the steps daily. "Fear of people and economic insecurity [have left me]." I know now how to handle situations which used to baffle me. "Are these extravagant" statements? When you get there you will understand completly. 2)My standard advise to those who don't believe they are "in that class" of alcoholics is to note that the Big Book defines 3 different kinds of drinkers and says that even some may learn how to control their drinking. I even go so far as to suggest that a person go to Rational Recovery or Moderation Management meetings, church, thearapy, or anywhere they will find solace or fullfillment for their lives. I was taught that AA DOES NOT KNOW ALL THE ANSWERS and that it is our duty only to be helpful and to be friends with anyone who helps drinkers and alcoholics. 3)Finally, "to thine own self be true" is one of the most profound statements ever uttered by anyone. Originally I believe it came from the Greek philosophers and Shakespear used it in Hamlet to suggest that the play's hero use the phrase to limit his confusion over life's problems (and he had some problems!). You see Phillip it doesn't matter what I think or believe it matters only what you think and believe. And before anyone runs off saying I am giving license to "free and irresponsible behavior" think again. What the phrase implies is ultimate responsibility; i.e., being able to really respond to oneself in an authentic way, and therefore, becoming responsive to others in a responsible manner.

One last comment: Read the Big Book of AA. It won't hurt (too much) and I guarentee you won't catch the disease by reading it.

Anyone interested in discussing the AA Program, steps, service work, working with others, etc. can contact me at billk@exo.com. My wife and I love to "talk Program."

Bye for now. Sorry if I took "too much space."


Member: Kerry B. - Alcoholic
Location: Idaho
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 01:02:19

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When I'm in a meeting and I smell alcohol on someone who says they are sober, I let them know that I smell alcohol. Ignoring it and passing the responsibility off to others is just a way of patting that person in the butt right back out the doors of AA. We do not throw anyone out of the meetings, but I know that I needed honesty when I was new, otherwise I felt that I could pull the wool over everyone's eyes and I had no respect for them. I had a problem with the "sanity" word in step 2, because I was a "functioning" alkie, then it was pointed out to me that it just might be a little insane for someone to continue to puke in the toilet and pass out time and again, always with the resolve that I would never do that again!!! My husband came to AA and has never gone back out. I came to AA and flipped in and out for 2 years until I finally stayed and SURRENDERED! After many discussions of this he and I have resolved that some folks just do all their "going back out" before they get to the program. The scariest thing about that is not that an alkie will have a tendency to drink, it is that they may never get back to the program. I am eternally grateful to my HP for getting me back to the rooms 18 years ago. Doing the steps, praying and reading the big book keeps me sober, just going to meetings and doing nothing else will not keep me sober. Been there, done that!! Thank you all for being here!!


Member: Doris
Location: Oregon
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 02:43:16

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What keeps me sober ? - - - - - FEAR - - - - -


Member: Ruth E
Location: Cheshire UK
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 03:48:53

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Hello all. I'm Ruth and I'm and alcoholic - honesty is what keeps me sober. I couldn't even get sober until I admitted honestly that I was an alcoholic. I saw quickly that it was all down to me - no one forced the drink down my throat. I had to take responsibility. AA teaches me that if I live a sober life doing the best I can on a daily basis and trying not to hurt anyone else, things will get better beyond my wildest dreams. Well, AA has never lied to me - my life is better than ever and the best is yet to come! As most of you are in the US and I'm in the UK, I'm posting while you're all tucked up in bed fast asleep. I'm new to cyberiety and I love being able to look in on an AA meeting at the start of my working day. Sweet dreams all and have a great day today!


Member: Josh J.
Location: Portland, OR
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 05:24:11

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Hi Everyone! Josh the alcoholic here. I'm hoping this posting will help a friend stay sober. I'm off to bed soon, I haven't been here for a while so I thought I'd let you know I'm still alive and sober (40 days, thank God!). I haven't had a chance to read the postings yet, and I really need to get to bed soon, but I thought it was important to send out this message I got from Mike in Saudi Arabia:

Hi Josh, Mike w alcoholic here, hope all is going well and your doing things one day at a time. It's hot here in Saudi Arabia. I only have access to E-mail now, no net. The Air Force is having problems with too many people surfing the net, so they decided to just make E-mail only for us troops. So I don't have access to on-line meetings anymore. Wish I had some E-mail addresses of some of the people from the coffee pot, or stayingcyber. Maybe you could give my E-mail address out and I could have some mini-meetings. Hope your doing okay,I'm taking things one day at a time, reading the bigbook, and praying. It works. But would like to have some contact other than letters, they are so slow. thanks . hope to hear from you soon. stay sober and sane. Mike W.

If anyone wants to contact him, you can contact me at joshhall@linkport.com

If this is old news, sorry! Good night and have a great 24 hours. Love & hugs, Josh


Member: Scott W.
Location: Ottawa, Ca.
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 09:43:55

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Hi, I'm Scott and I'm an alcoholic. For me I believe that my higher power keeps me sober only when I keep in touch. When I do not I find myself doing the dumb, hanging out with old influences and ending up in a tailspin. I'm only sober for 18 hours now. I will triumph through the grave of God. Thanks for letting me be here.


Member: sharont
Location:
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 10:34:54

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Hi my name is Sharon, an alcoholic. I have been trying for the last 25 years to get sober. Today I am trying again, and I am glad to come across this website. What I have read so far is what I need to see. I hope to talk with you again. I'm glad to be here.


Member: Sheerah
Location: NY
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 12:37:13

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What keeps me sober? going to any lengths. My bottom was so low that I NEVER want to go there again. I run that inside my head video of me drunk anytime I feel the urge to drink. When I was early sober, I made staying sober my primary purpose. I did WHATEVER I had to do to stay sober. In my town there are as many as 5 meetings a day. I was a basket case my first year, but I didn't pick up. I made sure i stayed out of bars and close to the WINNERS. Got a sponser who had what I wanted (many years in the program), I got to meetings early and left late. I never want to pick up again so I stay close to AA. It is my experience that most of the people who go back our are those that cut back or stopped going to meetings. Stick around the rooms, go to meetings all day long if you think you're going to drink. Nothing in my life is more important than my sobriety. Everything is in danger if I put anything in front of my sobriety....I can't be a good mother drunk, I can't be a good partiner drunk, I can't be a good employee drunk, I can't be a good child, sister, friend, drunk. Stay in the day, get a sponser with lots of time and go to as many meetings as you can

it's great this on line meeting is here, what a riot!


Member: Kar
Location: Washington
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 12:50:03

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Hi everyone! *s* Keeping sober.... hmmm.... I think honesty is very important. And for me... it's not just been all about AA and meetings. Don't get me wrong... AA has been there for me and has helped to save my ass. But, I've also found that working on health/nutritional stuff has helped also. In the big book it talks about alcoholism as being a disease of the mind AND body... yet AA concentrates on the mental state... the body goes through an incredible balancing act of trying to get back to where it should be nutritionally... sure, your mental state is very important to staying sober but adding exercise and nutrition can help tremendously!! If you're interested in learning more... read.. S.Powter: Sober and Staying That Way it really opened my mind to an addition to my recovery and has helped a great deal. AA is wonderful for most but it never hurts to add more to your recovery!!


Member: Dave P
Location: Northern Minnesota
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 13:16:53

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What keeps me sober? The program of Alcoholcs Anonymous as outlined in the first 164 pages of the Big Book. Actually the program just makes me ready to let God in and he sobers me up and keeps me that way. Other scources of recovery are good and may work for many. I've read a few books on alcoholism and the knowledge is helpful. But knowledge WILL NOT KEEP ME SOBER. It takes a program of action. A willingness to give away all I have received in order to keep it.

Incidently, if good nutrition and excercise kept me sober I should have sobered up along time ago. I used to be quite a health nut and did a lot of weight lifting, watching my diet, etc, and when the craving came on, I drank. Then I read in the Big Book on page 31 that taking more excercise and reading inspirational books are some of the ways many alcoholics have tried to stay sober or control their drinking.

One of the best things I heard in AA was that I should accept the gift of sobriety. After all, it is truly a gift from God, and it's only good for today contingent upon my spiritual condition today.

I ask myself and God each morning, "What can I do to keep sober today? AND THEN I DO IT.


Member: Doris
Location: Ore
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 14:07:22

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My name is Doris and I am an alcoholic. Earlier I said "Fear" was what kept me sober, and that is true, but ! There's a lot more to it than that. I gueass i have to admit that the fear is #1. Along with this is the program I am doing. I go to meetings,(love them) I read a lot and I have a sponsor. (So far we haven't gotten together as much as I and she would like but it will come.) But it is God that keeps me sober. I talk to God more these days than I ever have and knowing that he is there and by my side is the most important thing to me. I am not having cravings but i do have thoughts at times. That is when I ask God to take over and He does. Knowing what I would loose keeps me sober. Loosing my families trust and respect. Most of all I would loose my own respect. One more thing: REALISTICALLY, I would loose my husband and our way of life. It is a good way of life. We have a lovely home and I have my horses and all that goes with that. We all talk about what we lost and we DO talk of having lost material things. I DON"T want to loose those material things. Some would call this being very materialistic but I think I am just being honost. None of us 'wants' to live under a bridge. Sharon Scott and Josh ! ! ! Great going, whatever "it" takes is what it is all about. I am praying for all of you. love, Doris


Member: Larry         
Location: Ky
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 16:20:12

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Hi my name is Larry & I'm a drunk I try to get better but can't seem to get a hold of it / sorry guyes


Member: daisy
Location: Alaska
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 18:20:17

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My name is Daisy, and I am an ALCOHOLIC.Today is my first day of sobriety. I really do want to quit..I am trying to cope with livin' day to day.It is very hard..I know it takes time...I just need tko stay away from that first drink! I am really desperate to make my life better! I had just found this page, I truly love it! It is an inspiration,I'll bookmark this!


Member: Marty S.
Location: Orlando, Fla.
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 20:13:01

Comments

hi i'm marty and i'm an alcoholic. very good sharing this week on the topic of staying sober. i tend to go to the basics when i think of how i stay sober the first three steps.i ask God to help me stay sober and thank Him at night and that has been working for quite a few 24 hours. just a note to the newer people easy does it and let the people at the meetings be (live and let live) aa hugs to all!!!


Member: Michelle
Location: the great divide
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 20:32:59

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What a wonderful fellowship we have with technology and honesty! Just found this group today and couldn't be more thrilled. How to stay sober? This is it. Stay connected to recovering alcoholics, go to meetings, have gratitude and above all--DON'T DRINK. Nothing is harder and less rewarding than being an active alcoholic. Recovery is the only choice for life and it's a wonderful journey home. One day at a time is all we have and all we need.


Member: bruce m
Location:
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 21:30:16

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Bruce, alcoholic. What keeps me sober is meetings and asking another alkie how to stay sober one more day. When I listen to you alkies' I am getting the message from my higher power directly thru you. I love these meetings. Keep sharing.


Member: PatM
Location: Toronto
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 22:29:39

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Pat M from Toronto here, alcoholic of the shoddiest kind. Daisy from Alaska congrats on your first day of sobriety. I am sober since New Years which is a nice easy date to remember. I drank a de-alcoholized (except for the .5) beer and theh look of disappointment on my daughter's faces was a great although negative motivator to stay sober. I want my children to learn that every problem has a solution, not every parent has a problem. Good luck wit your next day and keep visiting this site and the coffee pot. Pat M


Member: Nikki B.
Location: PA
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 23:28:03

Comments

Hi!! I'm Nikki and I'm an alcoholic. It is great to have a spot like this when you are unable to make it to a meeting.

It is very hard when first coming into the program and seeing other people drinking and they are stating that they have been sober for a period of time. I have found that people in A.A. do not say anything to people like this, due to the only fact is that they are lying to themselves. They have not been able to find the basic steps of this program.

Be GREATFUL that you have 3 clean and sober months that you and everyone knows that you are being truthful to yoursel and God. These are they only things that matter. You will find that if this person really does get the program he will be able to own up to his true sober date.

I went through this program on a dry drunk for almost 2 years before I became truthful to myself. I was lucky that the last drink that I took made me realize that not only did the people that I loved not deserve that, I also did not deserve that. I am thankful that God gave me the corage to come back in and tell the people that I had gone out and drank. I have celebrated 90 days last month and this time it was more satisfying because I did it for me, not for everyone else.

Thanks for letting me share.


Member: David B.
Location: Phila., Pa.
Date: 05 May 1998
Time: 23:53:15

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Hey all, David B., alkie/addict. What's helping me stay sober? Opening my mouth and telling the truth to another human. And Phillip, unless you're not human there's no reason to think that this club is too exclusive for you. I know the feeling- I thought I could do it all myself and I didn't trust or really open up to anyone. What an unbelievable relief to give that up. And what a waste of time and energy to try to do it the other way. Prayers and congrats to Larry and Daisy- keep coming back. Ditto for you all. I love you guys. Thanks from the bottom of my re-awakened heart.


Member: Adam B.
Location: Sober Today, MS.
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 00:08:49

Comments

Hey everyone! I am still working on the 4th step and I have been really emotional. I am scared that some of my inventory will hurt me rather than help me. I am still working on it and I plan to het through it this time. It is a painful way to look at yourself. I guess they are right, it is the easier and softer way.


Member: l.a. larry, v
Location: wa
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 00:13:48

Comments

Hi i'm l.a.larry, I was looking for another site and i found this one. I just moved up to WA and i'm looking for more new friends. i've been sober since 5\95 and i got sober in w.l.a. and thank god for the v.a. hospital. it sure saved my ass, even though i didn't think that it was worth saving, thanks to sobriety, i found out that it was. thanks to all my friends in l.a. and i love you guys.


Member: Kenny P
Location: New Orleans, La
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 00:19:01

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Kenny Alcoholic/addict. As I read the original comments, I got the feeling that he was angry that he couldn't "control" his friends dishonesty. I can relate completely and in the last eighteen months have had to bight my tongue and hug many a drunk member. I have learned from those who have come before me that as long as they keep coming back that I have to love them for my own serenity. I have to reliquish control of people places and things to the wisdom of my Higher Power, one day at a time and my life has gotten infinitely better. Thanks for being here for me. Kenny P


Member: Christine S.
Location: CA
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 01:41:28

Comments

HI. I'm Christine and I'm a real alcoholic. This is my first time here and I felt I needed to share a little about what keeps me sober.

I had my last drink and my first meeting of AA on Feb. 21, 1981. By the grace of God I have not had a drink since. When I was new only God kept me sober because the only thing I was doing was not taking the first drink. Of course I didn't know that then, I just didn't want to keep doing the same things over and over again. I was sick and tired of being sick and tired. As time passed and I started working the 12 steps I dicovered that I was staying sober by the grace of God and applying all of the 12 steps in every area of my life. Now this has taken years to do and I must still do it else I will drink again and for me to drink again means death. Maybe not physically but I would be caught in the land of the lost once again.

It was a hard fight, for alcohol is a suitable foe, but to bask in the warmth of the sunlight of the spirit is something every drunk should have a chance to experience.

To those who are new to AA and to those who are having a tuff time at staying sober please hang in there and don't give up 5 min. before the miracle. The program works, it really does.


Member: Test
Location: California
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 07:38:07

Comments

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Member: Tracey S.
Location: Connecticut
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 09:38:33

Comments

Hi I am Tracey and an alcoholic... What keep me sober? Well, for today. it has being able to find this site and share with others since I can't get to a meeting this morning. Thanks for being here.


Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 10:05:56

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My name is Barbara, and I'm an alcoholic.

What keeps me sober is remembering that I only have to live one day at a time. It's so much easier to live that way! For one day, I won't take a drink. For one day, I'll do the best I can in all other areas of my life.

Larry from Ky, I'll be thinking of you especially this week - and hoping that you will find the serenity of living a day at a time, too.

Peace to all -


Member: Carolyn l.
Location: Georgia
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 10:06:14

Comments

hi carolyn alcolic sober 6 days. I have just gotten out of a treatment center for detox. I believe this program will work if I continue to share my faith, strength and hope with those in the fellowship, listen to my sponsor and truly rely on my higher power "GOD"


Member: Rene R.
Location: NJ
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 11:01:22

Comments

My name is Rene and I just found this site. I hit rock bottom last night. I now beleive I am an alcoholic which always leads to even worse things that I only do when I'm drinking. I'm only 21 and it scares me. I know I need to do something now or it will only get worse. Where do I start? I know I want to get help. I am never happy enough. And I am losing my boyfriend because of the drinking and the things it leads to.


Member: Israel I.
Location: Bloomington/normal A.A.
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 11:28:59

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Member: Carolyn L.
Location: GA
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 12:01:16

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This is to Rene--we all know where you are right now. If it is possible get into a treatrment facility either in or outpatient so you can begin the process of physical cleansing. While there attend as many AA meetings a humanly possible it it there we share our faith strength an hope. Even it you cannot get into a treatement center do not let that deter you. Find an AA meeting for starters and get honest with yourself and your higher power. We love you as we have all been where you are.


Member: Lynne P.
Location: Columbia, S.C.
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 13:59:33

Comments

Hi I'm Lynne,a grateful recovering alclholic. My recovery has to come first. I base my decision on what is best for my recovery for I know that without recovery I'll have nothing else. I maintain my sobriety by attending meetings regularly, I have a sponsor in which I work the steps. The big book tells what it takes to recover which is being open minded, honest, and willing. We don't have to figure out how to do this, just simply follow suggestions. ACCEPTANCE is very important. For with ACCEPTANCE comes SERENITY. Recovery comes from inside-out.


Member: One of many who have been where you are
Location: in that dark pit you may feel you are in now
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 14:25:25

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RENEE R in N J - - LIke Carolyn I think you need to get into some kind of program. Try to get into any kind of detox you can. There are govt. funded ones in most large cities. If you can't do that look up Alcoholics Anonymous in your town and call them. I did a while back. That was how I started and the very nice and sincere young man on the phone had his recovering girlfriend call me and I was off and running. I think You are already working on the first step of a wonderful 12 step program and I just hope you continue. YOU CAN DO IT ! The question is "What keeps me sober?" Its people like you that keep me sober. Knowing that I could be back there , afraid, uncertain,lost and feeling alone is not something that I want to go through again. You are not alone any more. You have us. We will do all we can to help. I hope that you do your part now and start your new life. I give you love and prayers little one. May you find your higher power and the two of you win this battle you are about to undertake.


Member: Doris H
Location: Ore.
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 14:34:40

Comments

RENEE R in N J , I would suggest that you open the phone book and look up Alsoholics Anonymous. Call them and tell them what you are going through. They will help. I did that 15 months,18 days and 2 hours ago and I have been sober ever since. A very nice young man had his girlfriend in recovery call me and I was on my way. I checked into a facility the next day and It was a wonderful experience. I then joined A A and I couldn't stay sober without this program. I hope that you can get into a facility but if you can't check out government funded facilities. There are such places in many cities. I wish you well little one. Doris H


Member: Dwaine G
Location: Ont Canada
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 15:49:57

Comments

Hi Im Dwaine and i am an alcholic. I am only sober for today and by the grace of God. and to me that is the only thing that keeps me sober only for today first things first dont have the first drink.


Member: Joanie W.
Location: San Diego
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 18:29:59

Comments

I have kept coming back since 1974 and I will keep coming back for as long as I can drag myself through these doors. I believe in the program and the people who are trying. The only requirement is a desire to stop drinking.


Member: Todd B.
Location: California
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 18:44:02

Comments

I'm Todd-alcoholic.

So far I've stayed sober by going to meetings and not drinking between meetings (or at meetings). For me, I really have to watch that my ANGER does not threaten my sobriety and I've found that the Serenity Prayer helps me with that quite a bit.Usually, I'm upset about things I have no control over--it's tough for me to let those things go or deal with that anger constructively. But it gets easier.

On a different note, I've found that people in AA are not all that different from people outside of AA. There are happy people and sad people and nice people and a few mean people and liars and thiefs and and people with a lot of money-people without and on and on. I've met Some people seem to have psych. probs.-some admit to them-others don't. But what we all have in common is a problem with alcohol. When I go to meetings I identify quite a bit with some people who speak and not at all with others-but the more meetings I go to the more I realize that I'm in the right place for me.

Thanks for letting me share.

Todd B.


Member: mike w
Location: saudi arabia
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 20:51:02

Comments

Hi, Mike W. her, real alcoholic. the air force has apparently let down their guard for a little while. Thanks to all who has sent their E-mail address, I love ya. AAers always come through, it's that unconditional love. What I do to stay sober, I do what I was told that first meeting. Don't drink, go to a meeting, share with another alcoholic, and try to work the steps of AA to the best of my ability. Don't get me wrong, I fail alot, and often, but this program has given me the strength i seemingly never had to go without that first drink. Even thousands of miles away from my home group, no face to face meetings, my HP has found a way for me to keep it simple, and share with others in recovery. I haven't had a drink in almost 6 years, and none of the credit goes to me, it's my HP (even when i didn't think ihad one) and to the loving fellowship ofAA. thanks. my E-mail is runner_71192@yahoo.com thanks.......mike w


Member: Jim M.
Location: Nacogdoches, TX
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 21:30:23

Comments

Hi, I'm Jim M. from Nacogdoches, Texas and I celebrate my second birthday on May 8. In the past two years I have not only managed to stay sober but have turned my life around while developing spirituality. I call my higher power the Great Spirit and that's who I owe for bringing me to you people. If anyone would like to talk with me about the progrm or anything else, you can find me ad jimmoore@netdot.com. Thanks, JIM


Member: Nancy C.
Location: Canada
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 22:11:04

Comments

Hi, i'm Nancy and i'm definitively an alcoholic, i'm sober for 2 years and 3 months now...it's my first time on a web meeting. I just need to exhale some pressure... i just lost (again) the control upon my emotions...but my anger keep growing, until i sit down here, calm don't and read some about other members... so i finally let it go and leave it all up to Him... Thanks i feel better...


Member: David P
Location: South Florida
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 23:15:15

Comments

Hi, I don't know if this is the right place to ask for help, but if you can help I would be very grateful. I recently learned that a friend was an alcoholic. She hid it pretty well and I had to discover this by seeing her in a hospital bed. She is only 28 yrs old and the nurse had told me that she has a liver disease because of the alcohol. Because of this disease, her skin is bruised and yellow and she shakes alot. I'm really scared and I don't want to think what can happen to her if she doesn't stop drinking immediately. Please e-mail me if you have any advice on re-hab or anything to help at DavePunda@aol.com Thanks for your support!


Member: Don J
Location: BH of SD
Date: 06 May 1998
Time: 23:25:23

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HI! Don here,alcholic. What keeps me sober is going to meetings, reading the Big Book and not drinking between meetings. I also formed a habit in treatment to get into contact with my HP every morning when Ifirst get upcand establishing contact often during the day. Then getting down on my knees at night and thanking Him for another sober day. So far it has worked for 3 yrs and 7 mo. Keep it simple. First time sharing and want to thank you all for being here.

Don


Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 10:02:12

Comments

Hi, my name is Suzanne and I am an alcoholic.

I have been wanting to share on this all week but wasn't sure I had the guts to post this.

One of the things that keeps me sober is the memory of my darkest day. The day when the demon, alcohol, took a well rounded, caring kid, my oldest son, and turned him into a monster, just for a moment. In that moment he assaulted me, he attacked me as if I was not a human being to him just an object he could beat on, letting out his frustrations. I felt I didn't have too many choices. I could have phoned the police. I did not. I didn't have family or friends to help out so I called Children's Aid and had my kids placed in foster care. I then checked myself into treatment. I did this without my husband's knowledge. He was in denial that situations in the house were escalating to violence, at one time it was a calm household. The kids were only in foster care for 1 week until my husband faced the facts and could deal with the situation. I stayed in treatment for 4 weeks. We as a family are recovering ODAAT with all the obstacles. The other things that keep me sober are having faith in my higher power, AA and everyone who visits this website and shares there ESH.

Suzanne H.


Member: Carolyn L.
Location: GA
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 10:59:11

Comments

Today I need to share and get feedback. Thank God for this site. I am now 7 days sober. One thing that threatens my sobriety is depression as I have been diagnosed as having anxiety disease and clinical depression. I am taking medication and know it will take several weeks to get the full benefit. I am trying to take it one day, no, one moment at a time. I feel particularly challenged today. I hear never get too tired, hungry and so on. This is difficult right now due to medication. I guess I'm crying out today. I can't get to a meeting until tonight just trying to make it till then. HELP!!!! I don't have a sponsor yet. Don't know who to call.


Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 11:54:24

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Caroline L. - I have been treated for depression since sobering up 10 months ago. Believe me, it does get better when the medication kicks in. I haven't had a severe anxiety attack in months. In the meantime, when things get bad, you can call your local AA office there will be someone there you can talk with.

luv Suzanne H.


Member: Doris
Location: Oregon
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 13:12:38

Comments

Carolyn, I have had experience with depression, I won't go into any details but I usually try to change the subject when it happens. I play music and dance, i cook something challenging, I get on the phone, calling the A A office is the best idea. Going for a fast walk sometimes helps. DO SOMETHING and doing something different and challenging either physically or mentally takes my mind off it. But ! I have to GET STARTED. That is the tough part. You can do it ! We are all with you and love you, don't forget that. The main thing that helps me with clinical depression is Self Talk. And I mean positive self talk. Affirmation that even though I am dealing with this right now it will not last forever and I will some day have it under control. I DO believe this and I do have it under control. Carolyn, try your hardest and do your best and your will survive this. I am praying for you right now, Doris


Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 15:01:20

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What I did not make clear in my posting about my darkest day, was that my son had not been drinking. It was what "my drinking" did too him. Suzanne H.


Member: Sashya C.
Location: Carroll, Ia
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 18:11:10

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I am Sashya, a gratefully recovering alcoholic and addict. To Pat M. who sobered up on New Years..congrats...I like what you said about your children and that not all parents have problems. I am expecting my first child and I have been sober since about 11 days after conception. I sobered up Nov. 11, 1997 and found out about the baby Dec. 6, 1997. I feel really guilty about the drugs and the drinking I did before I got sober that effected the child. I thank God that I didn't miscarry. I think this child has a special purpose from God, and so do I...because both of us have a strong will to live. I was abusing my body so much before that it is a miracle from God that I am here today to tell about it. Keep going to meetings and sharing what you have to others...God Bless You...

To Rene R. NJ-I am also 21, and it was overwhelming to me in treatment to imagine spending the rest of my life without drinking or using again. But I learned not to look at tomorrow, just stay in today...And now I am grateful that I have so many tomorrows with which to spread the love and fellowship God gave me through AA. Hang in there. And try to find God, as you understand Him...that is what has helped me.

What has kept me sober? God...pure and simple. My disease was a manifestation of a spiritual sickness that seeped into every aspect of my life. I was lonely because I didn't know God. I felt worthless because I didn't know then what unconditional love is and that God loves me and sent His only son to die for me. (What a sacrifice!!!) But, that is how I understand God now...Thsi doesn't mean I am right or that I have the "corner on truth" But AA has taught me to give over all that is unmanagable...and trust in a HP. The spiritual "cure" for this disease is what the 12 steps were based on...so I encourage all members of AA to seek the truth about your HP... They say, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear."

God Bless You All...Including the still suffering...


Member: Sparky
Location: Vancouver,B.C.
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 18:44:19

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HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I fell in love with a guy that is a supposed recovering Alcoholic. I admire his sobriety for 8+ years and I admire his ability to be a sponsor for others recovering from their addictions. My problem is as follows: I have been living with him for 8 months and he is dealing drugs(Pot) out of my garage in my house. He does not smoke it but maintains that it is purely for the money only. I have 2 small children and I am really scared that something is going to happen to him, me and my children. He receives calls at all hours of the night telling others that they can and should quit drinking. But isn't this kind of calling the kettle black. He does not attend A.A. anymore because he doesn't think that he needs to. Instead, he comes home after work and cleans our house for 3 hours(even though I have a live out nanny that does it during the day.) He does not see or does not hear the problems that my children and I are having with this arrangement. He just fantasizes that the extra money that he makes will allow him to complete with the JONES.

I have never been in a situation like this before. I thought I respected him for his ability to help others with their addictions. But, how can he be counselling people for abuse while enabling it in another way.


Member: Sanders W.
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 07 May 1998
Time: 23:00:40

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Hi Sparkey, I am very definately a real alcoholic and my name is Sanders. I am not sure I understand your question? If his dealing causes you a problem with your sobriety, if you are an alcoholic, then you have to do what you have to in order to maintain your sobriety. If you are just living with him and are not an alcoholic, then I would suggest you go to alonon. i can't advise you on family problems but if you have problem with alcohol, then I'll give you everything I have. Unfortunately AA can't FIX everything and neither can we as humans. Sanders W.


Member: Martina G
Location: CT
Date: 08 May 1998
Time: 06:38:53

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Hi everyone - my name is Martina and I am a grateful alcoholic.

what keeps me sober is the Grace of God and a continual commitment to being honest with myself about myself.

Philip - Admitting you are powerless might help you.

Robert - Focusing on others and your anger are a threat to your sobriety.

After over 12 years of sobriety, I am just beginning to really face some things, such as how much I have to control everything and everyone in order to "feel" okay. Letting Go is an important thing in sobriety.

Have a great sober week end everyone.


Member: Jade D.
Location: Missouri
Date: 08 May 1998
Time: 09:38:56

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About the person claiming to have 3 months sober, and Robert being upset by this.... "To Thine Own Self Be True." Be true to yourself and let the other person find his own truth. Keep the focus on YOU.

About the 4th step... I was instructed to KEEP IT SIMPLE... to not overcomplicate it. And, that it should only take 2 weeks, tops, to do if you are working full time and 1 week if you are not. I was told to just dive right in and do it exactly how it is done in the Big Book...

Hope this helped.

Love, Jade


Member: Mark B
Location: Eielson AFB, AK
Date: 08 May 1998
Time: 19:14:23

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Mark, Dope fiend alcoholic, I heard a long time ago" God takes care of fools, drunks, and children, and I qualify under all three". Now ain't that the truth? hehehe.

Mark


Member: dean s
Location: sc
Date: 08 May 1998
Time: 22:44:17

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im dean alcoholic. what keeps me sober. i believe that practicing the principles of aa in my daily affairs is working for me. love and tolerance should be our code. but for the grace of god there go i.


Member: FAYLA    G
Location: GALENA   KS
Date: 08 May 1998
Time: 23:00:05

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FAYLA ,ALCHOLIC, Ijust half to say this ,it isnt our place to till someone they smell like alchol,I CANT BELIEVE someone would do that ,I DIDNT know anyone was judge the others at meetings,Ipray for you and the one i am praying to is the one who drew those ones who smell like alchol there hopeing they would find someone that would love them till they could learn to love themselfs ,or hear someting that they need to hear. and it sure isnt you smell like wiskey ,forgive me for being honest,I try not to lie since i quit drinking ,fayla g


Member: Ellen P
Location: Mt Bethel, PA
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 01:50:49

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Hi I'm Ellen and I'm an alcoholic. For the past 18 years I have been proud to admit it. How I stay sober for today is quite simple (for today). I have a teriffic HP I call him GOD. He helps me to live in this moment, and as long as I do that and stay active in the program (service, etc.) I will be allowed to stay sober. God has been very good to me He has allowed me to be grateful for everything. Sometimes it is diffulcut(excuse the spelling, please). They are the times I have to be most grateful for. They are my growing times & once I get thru them with a lot of prayer & work, & come out the other end. I can see the growth.


Member: David W.
Location: NJ
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 10:26:25

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Hi - I'm Dave, a grateful alcoholic.

What keeps me sober? Keeping a fresh understanding that I have a disease called Alcoholism. It helps me to understand that alcoholism is a progressive disease -- if I drink my life will become unmanageble, I risk losing everthing that is important to me and eventually, IF I DRINK, alcohol will lead to my death. The amount of time since my last drink does not change the fact that: for me consuming alcohol or drugs will lead to disasterous consequences.

I feel lucky and grateful that I found out about alcholism and made it to AA. Finding AA has been the most important development in my life. Now, I accept that I'm powerless over alcohol and I learned that I could arrest the downward progression by not taking that first drink one day at a time. Going to meetings, reading the materials, working the program, faith in a higher power, and being honest with myself about my experience with alcohol saved my life.

During the past 5-7 years my attendance at meetings has sadly become non-existent. Luckily, I have never stopped reading and re-reading AA literature. Despite thinking about making my way over to a meeting on and off for years [ I knew it would help get some more balance and serenity back into my life] - not to mention my wife's suggestions that I go to a meeting, I haven't done it yet. SO - I just got access to the internet this week and I am thrilled that I found an online meeting. Thanks for being here -- this is just what I needed! It sure feels good to be at a meeting again.


Member: Michelle
Location:
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 11:40:32

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To Carolyn L. in Ga- Congrats on your 7 days of sobriety! Hope this helps about your anxiety/depression challenge-- As alcoholics, we have have medicated ourselves to the point that our systems are unable to produce the chemicals that calm us naturally-- for awhile--this state is only temporary, and will work its way out through recovery. I had a difficult time understanding this, and thought the anxiety/depression could be relieved by alcohol use, but it MAKES IT WORSE. Don't give up and trust that you will feel better than worse soon. You can do it! Know that others have been there, and there is a way out.


Member: Michel R.
Location: Qubec, Canada
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 18:24:41

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I'm a newcomer on the net and a A.A. member living in Quebec City, Canada. I would like to have a more direct contact with other A.A. members. (Chatting, etc.). My E-mail: michelroberge@sprint.ca Thank you


Member: Pete C.
Location: Boston
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 20:27:03

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Hi, I'm Pete, I'm an alcoholic,

I can't control my drinking very well at all. I end up drinking and driving, getting into arguments, offending myself, my friends, my wife, not to mention I could hurt myself or someone else by drinking and driving.

I only have 2.5 weeks of sobriety, and its starting to get hard,usually I bail by this point, it is so uncomfortable for me to not drink in situations where my friends are drinking, I have a hard enought time admitting to myself I can't control my drinking let alone to my wife and my friends.

I'm doing it one day at a time, trying not to take the 1st drink, praying, trying to attend as many meetings as I can, I'm starting to call people, this is really hard for me to do and I don't know why. I can relate to feeling depressed, I feel like I have become more serious more subdued since I stopped 2.5 weeks ago.

My last week of drinking, I started to have anxiety attacks when hung over, drinking the next morning/day to try to get rid of the nervousness, any way sorry to just plain old vent, but I can't reach anyone by phone and I didn't get to a meeting tonight. Thanks for listening, Just for tonight..no first drink.

Thanks, Pete


Member: BOB H.
Location: POCONO MTS., Pa.
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 21:54:31

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I am Bob and I am an alcoholic first and above anything else which naturally includes husband, brother, father, friend, you get the idea! After reading the BIG BOOK, page 16, lines 6, 7, and 8 I decided immediately to continue reading until I finished the basic text. I want to say that as a directr result of working the first 11 STEPS of A.A. exactly as "The Deal" is layed out, with a sponser, my life has gotten alot better and it can for you too. The fellowship exists outside the rooms and is larger than the imagination of some who still will not beleive. In A.A., there are no presidents, only trusted servants. It doesn't have to cost anything. Each group can make decisions for itself provided it doesn't hurt any other groups. Politics, "religion", the economy, and other controversial issues do not concern us!!!!!!!!!! We only wish to find recovery from alcoholism. We do not announce we are members of Alcoholics Anonymous to "get ahead" Our ONLY purpose is to recover from ALCOHOL and to help others. Coming to Dist. 61 in the Pocono Mountains of Northeastern Pennsylvania? We welcome anyone who has a desire to stop drinking at "KEEP IT SIMPLE", Saturdays at 8 P.M. on Courtland St., across from the theatre in East Stroudsburg, PA. UNTIL THEN: Live and Let Live, Easy Does It, But for the Grace of God, THINK think THINK, First Things First! Thanks for Reading my Contribution! NEXT CASE!!!


Member: Sanders W.
Location: Graceville, Fl.
Date: 09 May 1998
Time: 21:57:31

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Hi Pete, I am very definately a real alcoholic aand my name is Sanders. There is nothing about AA that is easy, but you can believe me this, it is all worth it. Without AA , I would have been dead long ago and that is a fact. If you are an alcoholic and continue to drink, you will either wind up incarsarated or dead. In view od the two alternatives we have as alcoholics,it does not take too much smarts to decide which is the better choice. I hope you make a good one. If you do, there is all kind of help here for you but if you choose the other way, we still love you and so does God and there is nothing you can do about that . Hope you hang in there and if you do I make you the same promise a man made me 22+ years ago and that is " If you don't take a drink, YOU will get better in spite of yourself." Good choices and God bless