Member: faith c.
Location: arkansas
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 13:21:32

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hi, i'm faith alcoholic - i can't believe i'm the first one here. how about "the promises" as a topic. when i first came into aa i kept hearing about them and thought they were crazy, none of those good things would happen for me. now 2 1/2 years sober, what the big book has promised has happend for me. i think w/ the new commers like sasha, it might be nice to let them know how our lives have changed for the better thanks to a higher power and the love and support in aa.

thanks, faith.


Member: kenny d
Location: sitka alaska
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 14:06:40

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hi,ken recovering drunk & stoner here.thanks for the topic faith.the promises did come to me just like it says in the big book,half way though the ninth step.and they can come to me again if i'm willing to work for them!(work the steps) this program has given me more than i ever could have imagined.i also thank my higher power!hapy easter!


Member: Michelle C.
Location: Chicago, IL
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 15:03:18

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Faith, thanks for the topic. I too am 2 and 1/2yrs. sober and it is very important to me to remember that the promises are coming true in my life every day. I am happier today than I ever was before, free from alcohol and drugs. I will NEVER forget where I came from and I learn from my mistakes more every day.With God in my life I have the serenity to get through my days without needing or wanting a drink or drug. I always share my experience, strength, and hope at meetings. I fone person gets something from what I've said or if I get out what I need to get out, then I have accomplished a lot. I do not pity myself anymore. Instead I work toward actual goals and when I finish what I started I feel a sense of accomplishment that I never felt before. I am not selfish today. I sponsor 2 people, and give away what I have learned from the program on a daily basis. I'm not afraid I will run out of money today, and I am not afraid of people(especially the LAW) today. I can give people (and myself) ideas with the knowledge I have gained from the program. Most of all, God is a huge part of my life today. Every morning I make sur the first thing I do is get down on my knees and thank Him for another day of being alive and being clean and sober. I have to keep that conscious contact on a daily basis and practice steps 1,2,and 3 every single day of my life. I also know that if I do these things all will be well. Thanks for letting me share. Faith, if you would like to chat, e-mail me at qtpi1969@yahoo.com Michelle C.


Member: Joel H.
Location: N.C.
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 15:23:36

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I have hope. That's the biggest thing I have going right now, besides AA, the people in it and people who care about me. I do want to stay sober but I'm really afraid of what I'll become. I'm sure anything is better than the person I was when drinking. I'm scared of sobriety and facing things about myself, especially some of the things from my childhood. Outside of AA right now, and for about the next year, I'm receiving some court-ordered counseling that concerns some of those very things, and my anger. It really seems too much to handle sometimes, trying to piece your life back together, get sober, do what you have to do to satisfy probation, go to meetings, go to work, etc... One Day AT A Time, right? I'm not even talking about promises, sorry. I believe in AA and know it works and have hope today that it will work for a "sicker that others" guy like me. I guess it's like the Big Book says, that's there's plenty wrong with us alcoholics , and plenty that needs to be done. I can't, He can, I'll think I'll let him. I wish I'd stop trying to handle things on my own so damn much. I have been around the program many years, but my longest period of sobriety is 18 months. Now it's coming up on 3 months. I really have to make it this time. The gates of hell are wide open and waiting for me if I don't. God Bless every AA and AA itself. Jesus WAS HERE, He died for us. Believe that truth, help others when you are able, things will be O.K., right? Ain't it amazing how many thoughts the human mind can process, Whew! I guess I'll just keep coming back folks. Thank You..


Member: Tony T.
Location: Louisiana
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 17:36:16

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Hi, Tony here it's my first time here. I can really relate to everyone so far. I just celebrated 2 years last month. What a miracle. I've been in aa for 6 years. Just about all the promises have come true for me. Man! I just can't beleive how my life has changed. From fearing everything and everyone and just not being able to handle life on life's terms. To a life that is full and complete. When I went to AA 6 years ago my marriage, job, and everything else was on the rocks. My wife told me to get help or get out. What a trip that was. I thought that going to AA was a curse. But it has been one of the greatest blessings God has ever done for me. My marraige is great, the job is good, and life is just great. And my realitionship with God is more meaningful than it has ever been. I thank God , and all the many , many people in AA who have shown me how to live again, to be able to live life on life's terms is great. Thanks everybody.Bye for now.


Member: Patt O.
Location: Oregon
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 17:53:16

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Hi, everyone. Patt, grateful recovering alcoholic here by the grace of God and the power and people of this wonderful program. Thanks for the subject, Faith (what a great name!) The promises are coming true for me today and have for as long as I've been sober, even though I haven't always recognized them. The other day I was talking with a friend in the program and the subject of "mission statement" came up. Here is the one I've written for me: My Mission Statement: My life is mine, but is in the hands of my God and must stay there so he can guide me. This is a program of action. I must do the things expected of me that I may grow in spirit.

I will pray and meditate and read my books in the morning.

I will ask God to help me stay clean and sober to do His will this day.

I will talk with at least two other alcoholics each day in person or on the telephone.

I will go to one or more meetings a day, sharing and being of service.

I will be kind and caring with my fellow humans, remembering to be kind and caring with myself.

I will stay in the moment and deal with what comes my way, the good and the bad, asking God's help.

I will grow back into the mainstream of life, remembering that God is my Guide and knowing that He wants me to be happy, joyous and free.

If I continue each day to do these things, remembering to thank him at night for all the blessings in my life, God will show me how beautiful and fulfilling and useful I can be to and for Him.

He has lifted me out of a terrible way of living and given me back my SELF, which I, in turn, must dedicate to Him, being honest with myself and you, and being of service to my fellow humans.

INTO ACTION!

Thanks for letting me share. Have a safe and sober weekend.


Member: terry s
Location: huntington beach ca
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 18:30:42

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page 82 82 84 if we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed? Hello i,am terry s. i'am an alcoholic. Thank you faith c. by any chance are you familar with the 3 four 1 happy hour group in north little rock? As I read joel's sharing the guy from N.C. I couldn,t help to feel his pain thank you for sharing. Just by reading your comments i have experienced a part of the promises. you see i'am just like you! this stuff never go's away, that has been my experience. After 14 years and then some being clean and sober it's all still there. the important part of the promises is the part that say's PAINSTAKING ABOUT THIS PHASE... Another helpful read for me was page 24 in the 12 & 12 Let go of the banna!


Member: ovis Ll
Location: ga
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 18:36:32

Comments

I have just come back from a relapse and I just cant seem to stay sober I have no faith at all right now I just feel absolutely hopeless


Member: Patti K.
Location: Woodstock
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 18:56:00

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Hi everyone and Happy Easter! Nice, actually miraculous to have sober holidays today! Thanks to Patty O for the suggestions we all need to make this program part of our lives.

The promoses are starting to come true for me after 2+ years sober, I'm one who had a real hard time grasping the program being terminally unique, but now I'm getting it, thanks to my willingness to trust my higher power to know more than I do.

The one promise that I am especially noticing coming true is the one that says; Our whole attitude and outlook on life will change; I've noticed of late that many old angers and resentments I held onto for a long time have just disappeared. it's quite amazing. The new freedom and new peace part is fleeting at times, but I know, and this is most important that I'm free form the obsession to pick up a Bud. Peace is fleeting, it's coming to me in glimpses, but at least it's coming. It's progress, not perfection. I was always perfect[in my eyes] before so I guess it's a kind of freedom to know I don't have to be. Anyway, I'm off to a f2f meeting. Thanks for letting me share and thanks to all of you for sharing. Congratulations on another sober day. And all of you who are new and still baffled, keep coming back, if you don't get the program eventually it will get you. I heard that in the beginning and have now COME TO BELIEVE. Bye for now.


Member: richard m
Location: sarasoa,fla
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 19:00:35

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thanks for the topic...my name is richard m. iam an alcoholic. I have been with out a drink today for 4845 days ( i found a sobreity calculator.com)..what away to show the promises do work........ i have known a new freedom and happiness all this time!!!!! aa works..more will be revealed later!!!!!


Member: Authorine L
Location:
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 19:44:10

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Hi - I'm new and don't know what I am

do ing yet - but I know that I am in the right place - moreAuthorine leter


Member: Kathleen J
Location: Lehigh Valley PA
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 19:51:24

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The Promises will always materialize if we work for them. Whenever I'm feeling down, hopeless, frustrated...I break out the Promises. They are being fulfilled among us, sometimes quickly, sometimes (many times!) slowly, they will always materialize IF WE WORK FOR THEM. Much as I would like God to put drop these promises in the palm of my hand (now that I'm not double-gripping a bottle of Smirnoff...), I need to constantly tell myself that this is a program of action. Faith without works is dead...and so am I. But there is a solution, and I'm eternally grateful to all AAs for being here and helping me stay sober, and celbrate sobriety, one day at a time. (Ever notice daylight's savings time is a lot less painful once you quit boozing?)


Member: Bill T
Location: Ridgefield, Wa
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 20:52:05

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Hey Bill here : I'am a alcoholic. The promises, are always a good tropic. But I think if you dwell on them to long they will not work, The promise will come as a person need's them. I work hard for 5yrs. in this program, before they started to work in my life.The main reason was that I wanted them to early, my sponder say they will work and only work, when I was ready for them. The program is a very important part of my life, even after 20yrs. I'am a drunk that belives in a slow growth, at least for me. But just because a slow growth work's for me it may not work that way for you. Just hang in there and be teach-able and you will becime a person you never new before. You become yourself. But the main thing is one day at a time. In Service Bill Happy Easter everyone.


Member: Kathy J.
Location: Denver
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 21:21:19

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Hello All, and thank you for being here. Kathy, a drunk from Colorado here. Celebrated seven years sobriety yesterday; I still cannot comprehend that chronologically. But I am so very grateful that as I remembered my last drink, the memory was so clear, almost as if it had happened yesterday. And each time I remember that, I become more grateful for where I am right this moment: Sober. As someone so eloquently put it above, thank God I'm relieved of my compulsion to pick up a Bud. That compulsion used to dictate every move I made in my days. The promises! Oh, yes! "We will know a new freedom and a new happiness," come to mind. I don't know when, particularly, this happened. It's been somwhere along the journey, somewhere along the process of just waking up another day, and not drinking, and thanking my Higher Power that I've made it through another day (and sometimes, another Hour), and taking the time to help someone else. Somewhere along that road, that promise has come true in spades, and it's wonderful. Before AA, I looked at all the 'bad' things that had happened to me, and said, "Why me?" Now, I look at them and say, "Thank God, it was me," because I've been able to share every one of them with another suffering alcoholic, and in that sharing, let them know they're not alone . They're not the only one. And that, I think, is a tremendous miracle. I am so grateful today, for this program, and everyone in it, and that last horrible, cheap (Schafer!) beer that got me here seven years ago. Because before AA, I just sort of woke up every day. Because of AA, I have a life. THanks everyone, and Happy Easter!


Member: VIckie C.
Location:
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 21:24:27

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Hi I am Vickie Alcoholic I guess I am in the right place right now I just spent the last two days making an 80foot copy of the promises for our new club I wanted to line the top of the new entry with the promises for what they have meant in my recovery I needed a new way of thinking free from fear my higher power gave that to me. He gave me the ability to say something besides whats the use give me another one. The opportunities that have come my way because of my new thinking ability is an eight year relationship childern heading to college instead of prison childern that send me airplane tickets to come see them instead of hiding away from me for years. It has given me a career and aplace to live that i could not have even invisioned when I was living out of the back of my pick up with 3 kids 8 years ago. I heard all the good stuff people said when I first got here and said oh sure that is you not me but believe me God don't make no garbage we do. If we can only given him the room he needs in our heart He will fill it up with so much Love that the whole world will change around you and you WILL BE AMAZED.

HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE


Member: Kirstin
Location: Connecticut
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 21:24:34

Comments

Heya, Kirstin, alcoholic. I love what Bill T. said because I related to his message strongly. I would like to add that although page 84 actually states the word "promises," there are SO many more promises, negative and positive, throughout the entire book if you open yourself to recognize them. One of my favorite promises in the book is on page 28, paragraph two ("a new life has been giving to us...a design for living that really works"). Also are those promises about what happens when we DO NOT stay sober (lots of consequences...). True to my experience, just keep your side of the street cleaned up as you stroll, and make yourself available for good things to happen. And for God's sake, don't take life SO seriously - you will miss a lot the little things that will bring you smiles... Ciao


Member: DAVID G
Location: EVANSVILLE, IN
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 22:05:59

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the promises can come true if we let them. however when we get in the way of our higher power we can lose the promises. they are not really gone we just block them when we get in the way. that's where i'm at right now. i need to give my higher power right of way but can't seem to do it. and for this reason i don't feel like i'm experiencing the promises now.


Member: Jen C
Location: NM
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 22:07:32

Comments

I have just returned from Alcohol Rehab. I have the most wonderful and supportive husband. One thing I noticed upon being back home is my lack of sexual desire. Is this normal?


Member: JCP
Location: W.Pa.
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 22:33:08

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I'm J, a grateful alcoholic -- by far the most grateful that I did not get it MY WAY, as the song goes. My sights were so low that six weeks dry would have looked like a cure -- an impossible cure at the time.

Trying to make book on my own promises always seemed as depressing as it was futile. I don't care how long it took, so long as it stays "took" now. AA wasn't beat, I was. It has become a special blessing that I was wrong and AA right -- or I would have stayed out and probably would not be here at all by now.

Nice topic, so take my tip woudl be don't overlook the promises you already have -- like I haven't had a drink today. Also, if this reads like I think I know more than I probably do, I'll second that -- get it where you're at. Just get it.


Member: dj
Location: norfolk
Date: 04 Apr 1999
Time: 23:20:55

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nuthing but the truth i will allways be an alkie and this program realy works boy!!! it just keeps getting better. cork the jug and hang on for the ride of your life!!!1


Member: Caroline Z
Location: Oregon
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 00:40:22

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I am an alcoholic and my name is Caroline. I have found that the promises will materialize if I work for them, just like the Big Book says. And only if I work for them. My life has changed so much by the Grace of God and the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. I am grateful for my life in sobriety today. What a trip it's been. Thanks for letting me share!


Member: Mike W.
Location: Seattle
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 01:14:28

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Hi all, I read the promises today as a reminder that work is required and that the phrase - If we are painstaking about this phase of our development - is the beginning of a recipe. If I want good things from my home cooking, I have to include all of the ingredients and number one is - Work. If I don't do the work, I can coast for only so long before the pain drags me back. I am experiencing a lot of personal pain in my life at the moment, and the recipe (and my sponsor) calls for a little written work. So, by the end of next week I will have completed another fourth and fifth step and I will be well on my way to being - halfway through.

Love to all, Mike W.


Member: Jeanie
Location: Honolulu
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 01:18:23

Comments

Hi Jeanie Alcoholic/addict here. i believe the promises will come true but you do have to work for them. After the fog lifts and you start to see the world around you thats when the work begins. You have to apply all that you learn in the program with the real world. AA is a program for living. If you want to live work the program and you will be amazed. Happy Easter


Member: Bill S.
Location: St. Paul, MN
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 01:49:41

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I'm Bill S, and I am an alcoholic. "If we are painstaking about THIS phase of our development...". I believe that statement in the BB is made in conjunction with the ninth step. In sobriety. I have watched many people ignore that stament muchto their own loss. I have come to see "the promisesses as guide lines for mew, they are not all present all the time. Another thing is that I find tpromises all thriough the Book if I look through it for them. I felt like many others at iome time, that they were impossible for me, but hve since come to realize that they were indeed meant for me too. With that I will pass.


Member: Jon N
Location: california
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 01:58:41

Comments

Jon, Alcoholic. I'm 6 years sober and at a rock bottom low. Left a 9 year relationship, had to make some substantial material changes in my life copped a couple of juicy resentments in the process. Went into a deep (clinical) depression. I knew that this process would be hard so as soon as it started I got two new service commitments, added a couple of meetings to my schedule, called my sponsor and made sure that we could talk on a daily basis, and started reading the third step prayer on a daily basis. I feel absolutely lousy right now, but I really do know that everything is going to be alright. It's Easter and I, along with every sober AA,am a walking talking proof of the resurrection If you are sober and hurting right now, do the work, and I am sure that you will see the promises come true. Thanks and God Bless You


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 02:30:09

Comments

Larry, alcoholic

When I first came to AA I barely took note of the Promises. They sounded like a bunch of unrealistic propaganda BS to me. And that was OK. I came to AA to stop drinking and I did stop - the compulsion to drink was lifted after about 3 weeks of meetings. As with most of us, I had seen a lot of pain and hard times in my life (and caused a lot too!), so the fact that I didn't have peace-of-mind, serenity, or freedom from fear was fine with me. I didn't even really notice that I was missing those things. I'd never had them so I didn't know what serenity felt like. As far as I could see my life had gotten a whole lot better. And it had gotten better. I didn't have blackouts anymore. I no longer woke up in emergency rooms or police stations. I stopped coming home covered with blood or smelling of puke. I no longer frightened and humiliated my family. I didn't embarrass myself in public anymore. I stopped cheating on my wife. There's a lot to be said for just not drinking.

After about 6 mos of going to meetings and ignoring my sponsor, I figured I'd had about all the AA I needed and stopped going. Part of it was fear of doing my 5th Step. I was grateful to AA for teaching me how to put down the bottle, but felt it was time to move on. So I went about my life as usual. I felt that just because I couldn't drink anymore didn't mean I couldn't party. So I did. I continued to use other drugs (the "marijuana maintenance" program) and generally behaved like a self-centered dry drunk. And life was pretty good for awhile, at least as far as I could see. What I failed to notice was that my wife was getting deeper and deeper into drug addiction. She did a great job of hiding her addiction from me in large part because I wasn't paying much attention to her. It all came crashing down very suddenly. My wife went to rehab (losing her business in the process), my kids were traumatized, and my finances were a complete mess. I couldn't deal with it. I was overwhelmed with anger, rage, resentments, self-pity, and fear. I was obsessed with violent thoughts. I was in trouble.

At that point I realized that I had only thought I had gotten better. THINGS had gotten better for awhile, as they tend to do when an alky stops drinking, but I hadn't gotten better at all. Now that THINGS had gotten hard again, I could no longer deal with life on life's terms. So I came back to AA because I remembered that AA promised that I could get rid of all those horrible thoughts and emotions. I went to work seriously this time. I quit using drugs, went to a lot of meetings, got a sponsor (actually took some suggestions this time), worked the steps, got a service commitment, and carried the message. Even then, I didn't really have the Promises in mind as any kind of goal. I still didn't really believe they were possible, I was only trying to keep a grip on sanity. I just kept putting one foot in front of the other. And it worked. Others noticed the changes in me before I did.

Now the Promises have begun to come true in my life. They're not ALL true for me ALL of the time, but I do have serenity and peace-of-mind. The fear continues to recede and I can face the fears I still have. In many ways my life is harder now than it's ever been, but I can deal with it soberly and serenely. I have faith that I'll be OK, regardless of what life throws my way. I can't claim that I never have doubts, or that I never get angry, or that I'm completely free from fear. But I can claim a lot of progress. I don't spend all my time worrying about the future anymore, I'm slower to anger and quicker to forgive, I'm learning to accept life on life's terms, and I can usually do the next right thing without fearing the outcome.

It's all rather amazing to me.

Thanks for letting me share at such great length.

Peace & Serenity


Member: Larry M.
Location: Virginia Beach
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 02:30:18

Comments

Larry, alcoholic

When I first came to AA I barely took note of the Promises. They sounded like a bunch of unrealistic propaganda BS to me. And that was OK. I came to AA to stop drinking and I did stop - the compulsion to drink was lifted after about 3 weeks of meetings. As with most of us, I had seen a lot of pain and hard times in my life (and caused a lot too!), so the fact that I didn't have peace-of-mind, serenity, or freedom from fear was fine with me. I didn't even really notice that I was missing those things. I'd never had them so I didn't know what serenity felt like. As far as I could see my life had gotten a whole lot better. And it had gotten better. I didn't have blackouts anymore. I no longer woke up in emergency rooms or police stations. I stopped coming home covered with blood or smelling of puke. I no longer frightened and humiliated my family. I didn't embarrass myself in public anymore. I stopped cheating on my wife. There's a lot to be said for just not drinking.

After about 6 mos of going to meetings and ignoring my sponsor, I figured I'd had about all the AA I needed and stopped going. Part of it was fear of doing my 5th Step. I was grateful to AA for teaching me how to put down the bottle, but felt it was time to move on. So I went about my life as usual. I felt that just because I couldn't drink anymore didn't mean I couldn't party. So I did. I continued to use other drugs (the "marijuana maintenance" program) and generally behaved like a self-centered dry drunk. And life was pretty good for awhile, at least as far as I could see. What I failed to notice was that my wife was getting deeper and deeper into drug addiction. She did a great job of hiding her addiction from me in large part because I wasn't paying much attention to her. It all came crashing down very suddenly. My wife went to rehab (losing her business in the process), my kids were traumatized, and my finances were a complete mess. I couldn't deal with it. I was overwhelmed with anger, rage, resentments, self-pity, and fear. I was obsessed with violent thoughts. I was in trouble.

At that point I realized that I had only thought I had gotten better. THINGS had gotten better for awhile, as they tend to do when an alky stops drinking, but I hadn't gotten better at all. Now that THINGS had gotten hard again, I could no longer deal with life on life's terms. So I came back to AA because I remembered that AA promised that I could get rid of all those horrible thoughts and emotions. I went to work seriously this time. I quit using drugs, went to a lot of meetings, got a sponsor (actually took some suggestions this time), worked the steps, got a service commitment, and carried the message. Even then, I didn't really have the Promises in mind as any kind of goal. I still didn't really believe they were possible, I was only trying to keep a grip on sanity. I just kept putting one foot in front of the other. And it worked. Others noticed the changes in me before I did.

Now the Promises have begun to come true in my life. They're not ALL true for me ALL of the time, but I do have serenity and peace-of-mind. The fear continues to recede and I can face the fears I still have. In many ways my life is harder now than it's ever been, but I can deal with it soberly and serenely. I have faith that I'll be OK, regardless of what life throws my way. I can't claim that I never have doubts, or that I never get angry, or that I'm completely free from fear. But I can claim a lot of progress. I don't spend all my time worrying about the future anymore, I'm slower to anger and quicker to forgive, I'm learning to accept life on life's terms, and I can usually do the next right thing without fearing the outcome.

It's all rather amazing to me.

Thanks for letting me share at such great length.

Peace & Serenity


Member: Maria S.
Location:
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 02:33:50

Comments

Blind faith is were I am at right now and I still find it is hard , I have almost 4 years of sobriety and yes my life has changed completely. The freedom I have received has been truley miraculous and there lay's the problem just for today is, I don't always have faith even though I have enough expereince in AA/life to know that I am been guided and I am certainly being taken care of. I guess that is whay I need to attend reg. meetings to receive the gifts that do not come naturally to me.


Member: Nick C.
Location: Leighton Buzzard U.K.
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 05:39:55

Comments

hello everybody, my name is nick c. and if this is alcoholics anonymous the i am in the right place. i have been sober for 10 months and having been looked after by some very dedicated and loving people, i have recovered from that state of insanity - the first promise of the Big Book. the story of "how many thousands of men and women have recovered from alcoholism". this book shows me how to recover precisely, following the instructions and not anybody`s personal interpretation of them. as a result i have had a spiritual experience that means i have something so great that i cannot describe it. to those that know there is no need. to those that don`t - we`ll show you where to find it. ask and it shall be yours. i thank you God, the program and the fellowship of Alcoholics Anonymous. nick c.


Member: Laure O.
Location: Frederick, Md.
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 06:05:54

Comments

Hi I'm Laure alcoholic/addict. The promises were so important to me in early recovery I wanted to read them at the noon meeting everyday. My favorite one is you're attitude and outlook upon life will change. And it does!! Staying sober over 9 years is not only a daily blessing and commitment but my bad attitude had to go way back when! That attitude kept me using. Acting positive and loving to myself and others feels so good. To do it all day long is not realistic but to stay focused on trying to works. I read this daily meditation book, recovery related that helps my attiude tremendously. Time for Joy. It helps with the hopelessness, the low self esteem, building spirituality etc. This is a program of attitude changes. Misery is optional remenber!! To Jen, NM.who recently left a rehab, give yourself time, be gentle to yourself. Your body and mind has been toxic and relationship have their seasons. Time is on your side. I'm grateful I'm breathing sober air. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Peter
Location: Liverpool, England
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 10:09:20

Comments

Hi Folks

My name is Peter and I have just admitted that I am an alcoholic. I have just returned to my office from my first meeting and cannot believe the support and empathy I found there. It is Easter Monday, a holiday here in England, and after starting the week-end with high hopes of relaxation with my family - I end up in a cheap hotel admitting my problem. This is an Easter I shall not forget in a hurry.

I have not had a drink today - I did not have a drink on yesterday, but on Saturday, I ruined my family week-end, I hurt everybody around me and realised like I'd been shot - what my problem was. My daughter called me on Sunday, I had left the house, and asked what I was playing at - what is going on inside your head - you need help and I don't know where you will go for it but get it sorted - fast Talk about being 'Sobered Up' that did it - I acknowledged what I had avoided for years - I am an alcoholic!

I called AA and had a visit from a great guy called Dennis who stayed with me for a couple of hours and took me to a meeting of the Fellowship at Lunchtime - boy was that an eyeopener - people are good and helpful and empathic. The support etc. is great.

I thank God for my Daughter's call, for Dennis and for AA.

Thanks for listening


Member: Bert  E.
Location: The Green Mountain State
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 10:27:12

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Hi, I'm an alcoholic and my name is Bert. Great topic and I can certainly relate to the discussion going on here. The part of the promises that I find most incredible to believe is: That we will be able to deal with life on "life's terms" WHOA ! Who would want that , much less be grateful for it? Well me, for one, Now at least. Of course I did not feel that way at the beginning of this journey.... :-) I have put together many days, 365 days time 14 years plus a few months Phew !!! who's counting..... Anyways I am extremely grateful today for those promises (and the steps), and most fo all the fellowship of AA to show me how to get to where I am today. And to make a long story short my life is incredibly full, and I've gone through hoops that seemed impossible for "me" to get through, Thank god I'm never alone! I'm still learning to love and be loved, to be thankful for whats in my life, and to have courage to change what I can....... and none of this is easy, however a little faith and this program of AA, can move mountains, to steal some lyrics from a tune I'm fond of... thanks for being here


Member: sasha
Location: love to babble
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 10:42:05

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Hi Everyone. Sasha here. Booze-hound. Booze-canine. Ovis, I feel for you so much. It IS hard. Today is day 35 for me. It does get easier, I have found. The intensity of my self-pity has diminished. The past few days, I have not been thinking of drinking as an option if things get tough. Most of the time, I no longer expect that a relapse is inevitable. But it is still difficult. Something I have found very helpful is reading books by alcoholics. "Drinking: A Love Story," by Caroline Knapp, "A Drinking Life," by Pete Hamill, are my two favorites. I saw myself on every page of the Knapp book. Very powerful.

For the person who said she has no sex drive since returning from rehab: I also am having a hard time having sex without booze. Caroline Knapp talks about this some in her book. She wrote that it is very common among recovering women, how to have sex sober. I don't know what the answer is. Maybe, like every other aspect of life, we have to learn to live the experience sober, which is so different from living it boozed up.


Member: Jackie B.
Location: Clarion, PA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 11:56:00

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Hey ya'll...alcoholic named Jackie. Thanks Faith for bringing up this topic. The first thing that I note on the promises is the first sentence of that paragraph, "If we are painstaking about this phase of our developement," Whenever I let up on any part of my program...spiritual, steps, sponorship, service (all S's...humph), I find that the promises seem to diminish in my life. I find that fear creeps back in, serenity levels drop, restlessness, irritablity and discontentment re-emerge. I don't know how to handle situations..I react again. No matter where I am, I must be vigilant with my recovery..above all else. The most important part is that I just don't drink, then the promises have a chance to come into my life. If I drink, there is no opportunity to know any freedom. Thanks for readin my stuff.

Peace,

Jackie


Member: Bill J. 12 19 75
Location: Kingsville. Tx.
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 12:28:44

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Hi my cyber friends: The promises!! Boy did I ever chase after them. Found happeness is a byproduct of good living and can't be had by chasing after it. There are many promises in the Big Book and I could write a lot on each of them. they are elusive they come when I work for them. Then leave for a while and come back.

To the newcommere make some face 2 face meetings and for litature one would do well to stay in the Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous ) the 12 and 12 and As Bill Sees it for the first year . There is more than enough to keep one busy for a year right there. Love to you and yours BJ.


Member: JR 1/14/99
Location: Auburn
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 12:47:03

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Hi everyone, I'm JR and I'm an alcohlic, drug adicit, work-aholic, compulisive gambler, sex-aholic, over/under-eater, and garden variety nut.

This is day 82. Right now I'm not expecting any promises. My brain is just in slow-cruise mode, which for me is a miracle. I'm sober and alive, and I'm doing what is suggested. If something good happens because of the program, then all the better. If not, that's okay too because through the grace of God I am can walk this planet today in peace. I still have my moments of anger and pain, but with the aid of God, my sponser and AA this too shall pass and the serenity returns. For this I'm grateful. If this has been promised to me, than I thank God for keeping his promise, even though it was not expected.


Member: Kirstin M.
Location: CT
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 12:52:56

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Hello again everyone.... Just wanted to say hello. I am Kirstin, an alcoholic. To all of you that have posted messages who are in their first 30-60 days of sobriety.... WELCOME, WELCOME, WELCOME and KEEP COMING BACK.... As I read your posts, all I kept thinking was "take it one day at a time." As far as reading about others and the higher power involvement, I certainly respect your experiences and opinions. Personally, I find the topic of higher power very personal and philosophical, so it is hard for me to relate and discuss my perception of a higher power. I have one that works for me and that is really all I can offer to someone who asks. I have experienced many of the positive promises to date, but only because I have made certain choices throughout my sober experience. God didn't make the promises come true - I DID. Especially when I make poor choices too - there are always consequences to a choice; I learned this in AA. I put myself down enough when I was using, and today I give myself a LOT of credit for staying sober because the bottom line is that I HAVE TO MAKE THE CHOICE. The option of staying sober today completely outweighs the option of using. I would be a fool if I passed up such an opportunity and the gifts this program has provided for me. The past nine years of my life has been incredible - without AA, I am not so sure I'd still exist. It sure is good to be above ground!! Have a great day everyone... Ciao


Member: LA
Location: SD
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 13:16:40

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Hello, I'm Lisa and I am an alcoholic, The promises, like everything else in AA, I wanted them first and thought I could think my way into having them come true. Con and manipulate my way into right living and happiness as always. ( I wanted self esteem once so I went to a class, learned about it, thought i could do what they said to get it , my sponser was speechless, she let me do it. Hindsight, I find that I have to live this program one day at a time and it will work , I got self-esteem, I had to live it (the steps) and it came) This is a falsity (is that a word) for me. I have to keep living one day at a time, one day at a time , one day at a time, never give up, pray for humility on those days I was going so crazy and didn't know what to do , read the books, read the books, read the books, wait wait wait, ask for help, ask for help, ask for help, promises, promises, promises, promises, read the book ,read the book, pray, pray, pray, listen to helpers, listen to helpers, walk through fear, feel pain, feel fear, happy, joyous and free can feel and it's okay , don't have to hide, I'm okay, I'm okay, worlds can be crazy , that's okay, not perfect, acceptance, but I don't have to live in the crazy's . I'm alone at one with God and the world. PEACE...Promises they come and go and and I can roll with my world and find peace in the midst of a storm. JOY....Promises, DON"T HAVE TO RUN...Promises FAITH and at ONE WITH THE WORLD..promises

WAIT and WORK, hang around until the miracle happens. Your higherpower will not let you down, unless it is people of course or AA group but your higher power will walk through the storm with you. He picked me up out of Satans gutter and made me new, it's me that walks back to the gutter sometimes, stick my big toe in to see what I'm missing. But watch out there are people waiting there to grab my big toe and bring me in with them. There is a Higher Power and true friends to pull me out if it's not too late. I have talked way too much thanks for the space...


Member: DEBBIE D
Location: OHIO
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 13:28:21

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Member: Francis
Location: Maui
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 13:34:43

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Is this exclusively a religous forum? Can I ask for your advice and insights? I need to get the clean and sober lifestyle started and need all the help I can get. I will really value any heartfelt advice you care to offer me. I have my own faith in my heart which I consider really personal and private. What I'm asking you for are some practicle suggestions to get sober and stay that way. Alchol is going to destroy me life if I don't distance myself from it. Quickly! Aloha from Maui~


Member: Sasha
Location: Your town here
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 13:40:17

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Kirsten: The books I recommended do not focus on a higher power. Pete Hamill never went to AA, but he has been sober 20+ years. Knapp went to rehab, then AA, and has some discussion of an HP but is not didactic.

Bill J: Is that all you read, The Big Book? If that's your Bible and that's all you read, your world must be very circumscribed.

Ovis: If you love to read and are touched/inspired by the hard walks of other people, I truly believe you will find these books worthwhile. I found that when I wanted a drink and was feeling sorry for myself, it was helpful to lose myself in the lives of people who have been there and survived well.

Dog slurps to all...


Member: Francis
Location: Maui
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 14:13:03

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Is anyone here?


Member: Kathy F
Location: Carlisle,Ia
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 14:35:11

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Hi everyone. My name is Kathy and I am an alcoholic and a drug addict.

For the newcomers who are unsure what promises we are talking about it is in the Big Book pp, 83 & 84.... "If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the post nor wish to shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace. No mater how far down the scale we have gone, we will see how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of econoic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves. Are these extravagent promises? We think not. They are being fulfilled among us - sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly. They will always materialize if we work for them."

To me these 2 paragraphs size up for me exactly why I follow the principles of AA. All my life I was questioning why things happened to me... then when I read these promises I though - no way!!! considering my past (which, while I didn't have much control over most of it, I still regretted) I just wanted to shut that door. I couldn't understand how I could even share my past with someone to allow it to benefit anyone. But, somehow - slowly things started to change... I started dressing better, stopped cussing as much, started to feel better about me. Then I was asked to help run a group for teens in treatment... I was able to share my story and help them... It made me see how these things that I had regretted and was so ashamed of could be used to help them - and that really helped me.

"They will always materialize if we work for them." So keep on working!!! Keep on living!!! Never give up!!!

Kathy F


Member: Tracy
Location: British Columbia
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 15:15:26

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I am an alcoholic and addict, I am not doing well at this program at the minute. I feel like a total failure and dont know how to get back where i was as far as sobriety and clean time . I had 90 days and was doing great , had a couple small slips and am finding myself feeling really crappy emotionally and mentally. I feel depressed and just need someone to inspire me if it is possible Thanks for listening


Member: Bill T
Location: Ridgefield, Wa
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 15:41:04

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hey Tracy: because you slip that does'nt make you a bad person. You are You. Get on the phone and talk to someone, they will listen. If you are an alcoholic like I'am we all need help at times. That is Y the program is here to help out people like you and me. It has help me out for alot of yrs. only because I wanted it to. Today I'am a person who likes myself, also I like the people around me. But for you just hang inthere. There is hope, readly there is. God did'nt make any junk, remmber that. Slip are plan drunk's but the door will open again. All you have to do is open it. Good luck. I as an alocohlic, know you will make it, sometimes it just take's time. Just call and talk to someone in your town. Thank's Bill T


Member: Francis
Location: Maui
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 15:50:07

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Hey Tracy, Aloha & congradulations! 90 days! I haven't been sober that long since I was in prison for 18 months in a foregin country! And I actually got a beer or 2 and some doobies inside. I'm struggeling with day 1! Is there an easy way to flush the constant habit of alchol from my life? And have you got any suggestions for the Maui-wowie? I did about 30 days free of alchol last year, but I have a real HARD TIME acting normal without it. That scares me allot! How do you deal with it? I really need to start making this happen, HOW DID YOU EVER DO 90? Alohaha's & Good luck!


Member: Kathleen F.
Location: Ventura, CA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 16:18:02

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Kathleen alcoholic,

The promises do come true. For me it was quickly, I have had such major life changes in the last 3yrs and 8 mos, all positive and all because I work the steps on a regular basis. It is such a blessing to have a program that really works, it takes work, but nothing worthwile is labor free. It is a frightening process, but ultimately everything promised comes to pass - the best part for me was instinctively knowing how to handle situations that once baffled me. I find that if my motivations are pure and I keep my relationship with my higher power tight, that I dont have to worry about how to behave. Everything just turns out as it should and usually far better than I ever could have planned it. I know that if you are new it sounds impossible and unattainable, but true happiness and peace of mind are within your reach. I was very skeptical at the outset (as I suspect everyone was) but the little miracles just keep piling up and the big ones too. Next thing you know you are at peace and can see the promises at work in your life. For me the best part is knowing that I never have to drink or use again as long as I work the steps and carry the message. It is not always easy, but it is possible and always worth it. Thanks.


Member: Kirstin M.
Location: CT
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 16:31:47

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Kirstin, alcoholic..

Francis, get on the phone and call AA for some meetings in your area and attend one! There is so much to be offered at a meeting. We all have been where you are, asking the same questions... you are not alone!!! WE have a common problem and a common solution, and we all must take life one day at a time. The best suggestion I can give you if you have a desire to stop drinking is to not take the first drink, no matter how much you want to. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO!! Hope you can get to a meeting tonight....

To Kathleen in Ventura.... have you ever attended the Ventura County convention? I used to love that convention! I used to live in T.O. and that is where I got sober in July 1990! Wonder if we have met...

Ciao!


Member: Patti K.
Location: Woodstock
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 18:39:58

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Francis from Maui, simple instructions I was given--Don't drink, go to meeting, get phone munbers--and use them. Get a sponser, start working the steps. Talk to at least one other drunk everyday, a recovering one that is. Most importantly, if you don't pick up the first drink you can't get drunk! Simple! I'm working on my 3rd year in the program after 20+ years of living with booze. I didn't believe any of it at first but keep coming back--it really works.


Member: Cliff R.
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 18:44:05

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Hi, I'm Cliff and I am an alcoholic. I have been around AA for about 4 years. I have been back out there several times, and I promise that nothing has changed. I currently have two months of sobriety, and I can already see the promises in my life. i have defintely had a lot of pain in the past two months, but the benefits of those hard times have been well worth it. Today I'm not drinking, and that is a great accomplishment. I am working very hard, and I am finally listening. "Half measures availed us nothing" and I am living proof. For those of you who are thinking of having that first drink, let me assure you that it hasn't changed out there. I can't, He can, so I think I'll let Him. I have to work for these promises, and I have only been able to do that through all of you in the fellowship of AA. I am extremely grateful for each and everyone of you. Thanks for letting me share, and God bless!


Member: Shawna W
Location: Central Wisconsin
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 18:48:04

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Alcoholic named Shawna here. Hi all! I have started to believe the promises more and more in recovery. there have been times when I think they are a crock but then I raelize that they are being fulfilled among us! I think something that has really helped me in AA was when a fellow alkie told me the old saying,"let go and let God" Whenever I start taking over my life again I realize I screw it up so I just give it back to God and he leads me to where he thinks I need to go! I have a question,especially for the "OLD-TIMERS" did you ever get to the point when you think you can't do one more meeting? I know people say that when that happens relapse is close behind?? I don't want to relapse but I am really tired of my meetings. I have asked God to help me get through this and I have gotten no clear response. I went to one meeting last week and I normally go to at least 5. I know I need them,so why don't I want them anymore???? Hopefully somebody can help me out. thanks all


Member: Gloria M
Location: Corpus Christi, TX
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 19:25:14

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Hi my name is Gloria and I am an alcholic. The Promises, they never seem to come to me as fast as I want them too. I have been sober for 6 1/2 months now. I just came back from a relapse, after being sober 9 1/2 years. I hope I get it right this time; because I don't want to live the way I was, white knuckling it. It has been different this time. This time I have to do what you all suggest. I need the promises to happen, I don't think I could make it back again. Relapsed in Colorado Springs and came to Corpus Christ, TX for treatment and decided to hang out here for a while. Sorry I am rambling, but I want everyone of the promises to come true and for now the major one is happing....I AM NOT DRINKING.

Thanks for being here for me

Gloria


Member: Marcia D.
Location: Burbank, CA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 20:17:04

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THANKS FOR YOUR SHARE BILL T.! Hi, Marcia, Alcoholic. I'm four 1/2 years sober and after being in my own apartment for 2 years (first time out from my parents nest), I've surrendered one more time and moving back to my folks temporarily in order to get my feet on the ground again financially. My sponsor suggested I move back 4 months ago, but I had to try anyway. Well, she was right. And it's a blessing I can go home for a while and that my folks aren't too crazy to get along with. I think it's been ego-smashing because I was afraid of what I'd look like. Now I feel relieved that the pressure is off a little. I'm still going to work, but I won't have to be as strapped as I've been and I'll have time to work on my career and be a good daughter to my parents before they go on "home". I'm glad you mention the Promises being a slow process. That has been very true for me the past 4 years. I don't think God will give me more than I can handle, and I don't believe life is always going to be a bowl of cherries. I just don't have to drink TODAY. Thank you. And thank God for Alcoholics Anonymous! Marcia D.O.S. 12/14/94


Member: mike
Location: south new  jersey
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 20:59:59

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hello im michael a alcoholic from new jersey Brigantine mike


Member: Marianne K.
Location: Eastern PA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 21:13:20

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Hey Everybody, Marianne here and I am an alcoholic... I've been reading this discussion for 2 days now, and have reflected back to how the promises developed during my sobriety... and I still don't have an answer. When I first came into the rooms, I was so relieved... I didn't hava a life or a thought unless is related to alcohol. I had no purpose. Then I heard something about "promises" and I thought, well that's okay, but I'm happy just to not be drinking. Ten years later, the promises in the BB have come true (along with many more)and the proof is in Lexy, my 4 year old daughter, every time she tells me she Loves me...I am truly grateful for every single one of you who have helped me get where I am today. Living sober is a joy I never could have imagined in my drinking days... just remember Time Takes Time. I do remember someone telling me a watched pot never boils... Just let the miracles happen. Happy 24, Love you and me.


Member: L.D
Location: SO. CALIFORNIA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 21:47:01

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HI. MY NAME IS LARRY AND I AM A DRUNK RECOVERING THAT IS. I JUST WHAT TO SAY THANK ALL OF YOU FOR HELPING ME TO A NEW LIFE.THANK YOU..........


Member: chris b.
Location: Georgia
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 21:57:38

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i am sitting here exulting over my ten days' sobriety! believe me, it is "intoxicating." thanx to God as i understand Him--and to a lovely group of aa'ers who love and support me because of what i am, not who i am. for the first time in my 67 years on this planet, i am ready to go another day without a drink. think of it: 10 + 1= 11; 11 divided 10 = 110, a 10 percent increase! i am trying to get a sponsor. any advice? also, i am trying to stop acting like a convert who is going to save the world--now--from alcohol. any advice about that?


Member: Patt O.
Location: Oregon
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 22:17:59

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Hi, all. Patt, grateful alcoholic. Francis on Maui--Call your local AA office and get someone (same gender as you) to take you to a meeting. Put down the bottle--better still, throw it out--and get serious about this thing. It will kill us if we let it. We do have a defense--we're powerless but not HELPLESS. Blessings on you, my dear. We've all been at the point where you are and you CAN do it. You're not alone.

Shawna, when I get to the point where I don't want to go to meetings any more (and it does happen occasionally to me after 8+ years), I talk with another alcoholic or two on a one-one basis. I love it when we can exchange thoughts and ideas about the Program, particularly when I'm talking with a newcomer; it brings me back to reality and I remember where I was just a few years back. Gratitude lists are great. My sponsor, who has been going through some really difficult times this past year with physical ailments, is a wonderful example of the power of this program. Make a gratitude list--I can't be in a bad place when I realize all that I have to be thankful for. SERENITY PRAYER, SERENITY PRAYER.

The Promises are beautiful, and I love reading them and all the others, as someone has said "positive and negative," however, I find that pages 84-88 give me such HOPE.


Member: Matt L.
Location: The Lake   PA
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 22:52:48

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Hi everyone. My name is Matt and I'm an alcoholic. It's my first time sharing, andjust like a 'REGULAR' meeting I'm nervous. Great topic. Thanks Faith. I think it's very important to remember the next line following the promises. 'This thought brings us to Step Ten,'. These freedoms come through clearing up our past. I fear others less as I make amends, I feel more secure financialy as my debts are paid, and so on. One of the greatest things is that I don't create situations that baffel me nearly as often as I use to. But until then, there are prayers and promises in every step in the Big Book. Check it out. I love the ones in Ten. The truest one though, is that, ''alcohol will beat you to a state of reasonableness''. Thanks for listening. God bless.


Member: Tim C.
Location: Ocilla,Ga
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 22:54:46

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hello everyone!! i have just found this site for the first time and i think it's wonderful.i have 82 days sober now.right now i'm working on my 4th & 5th step with my sponsor.as good as i feel now i can't wait to get to the 9th.to anyone just coming in hang in there.it does get better. peace,tim


Member: Rick H-W
Location: Ottawa, Canada
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 23:18:10

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Hi my name is Rick and I am an Alcoholic. Faith I was really taken by your comments as I have been by many of the others. I have been sober seventeen months now and daily I am amazed at the changes in my life. I haven't quite gotten to not having any remorse over my past but I know that will come. I have no fear of economic insecurity, I intuitively know that God is with me, wants only good things for me and will protect me as long as I continue to have faith. Each night I get on my knees and thank God for the lessons and blessings that I have received and that I am grateful that I am going to bed sober and that I don't have to live that way anymore. Each morning I thank God for another opportunity for another sober day and pray for simple qualities, like honesty, openness and willingness. I am so grateful to this program and all of the members that have been willing to spend time with me and help me. I try to give back as much as possible, opening meetings, chairing, speaking when asked and answering phones at intergroup once every couple of months. Giving back (step 12) is so very important, without it I wouldn't get what I need. Wishing you all another 24hours.


Member: Bob G.
Location: n.ill.
Date: 05 Apr 1999
Time: 23:44:14

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hello,i'm an alcoholic and my name is Bob G. this is my first meeting online . I 've viewed this page for about a week now anf it's good to know aa is alive and growing on the internet. i just got online for the first time two weeks ago and have been looking for a good place for a meeeting so that is why i am here. the promises have come true for me slowly for the last 7 seven years but there is a price for everything we do. today i am accountable for all my actions and i thank my higher power for this gift of sobriety. i used to have to know why but now i say why not. in a vision for you it talks about how more will be revealed to you and to us, and it has been one day at a time. the st. francis prayer is probably one of those goals in my life that i try to practice , but believe me, i fall far short of that vision every day. it's the journey towards that, that i can appreciate today. some one said don't take yourself to seriously and even though i may not take myself to serious, i do know that i take this disease called alcoholism dead serious because it almost killed me, but not yet. the promises were part of that hope that i came to believe in as long as i did a few simple things.those" things" were suggestions from a sponser and the winners who walked the talk in their daily lives whether they were rich, poor,ill, healthy,intelligent,dumb,pleasant or kinda rude. so far this gift has taken care of me so i just try to use the tools i have been givin to do the best today that i can in and outside the fellowship. thanks for letting me babble on but you some of us drunks are just wordy. remember,tears are the clear blood of our souls.


Member: JCP
Location: W.Pa.
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 00:12:24

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I am impressed by the number of people tonight mentioning relatively "short time." Not that I am sure there is any such thing if we are doing it one day at a time, but I took a long time to notice that: it seemed like forever and it was more than a year. I had "finished" the 12 Steps when I re-read Step 2. But by then I was not quite back where I started, gratefykkt.

Such is life to an open mind: every time you get it figured out something new pops up. Otherwise, I'd probably be such a know-it-all!

So hang in there--take the ups and ride out the downs. Some sober people say they never looked back, and good for them, but it was not my experience. I had nowhere else to turn, but that never stopped me before I dragged into AA.

As a pigeon (we rightly don't say that much anymore) for a long time I was too sullen for anybody to reach easily. A few stayed after me.

But it's the one day THIS time that counts, so hang in there, people who don't even know you are pulling for you. (Starting to sound sloppy; I better quit.)


Member: eric y.
Location: delran, nj
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 00:18:32

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faith, i hve faith that while i am on a cruise vacation in the caribbean, someone can email me with meeting times, days, and places fo the following places;

cozumel - mexico grand cayman island - jamaica ocho rios - jamaica

please respond


Member: Sean J
Location: Las Vegas NV
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 00:46:01

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Hi im sean and im an alcoholic and a drug addict. " today is today, tommoro never comes, and yesterday never was." Thats how I look upon my sobriety. Taking life one day at a time. You know i was a very selfish person, i didn't care about anyone or anything but myself. as long as i had my drink or drug i was fine. there are only three things that will happen to us if we continue to drink, we will end up in jail, the nut house, or die. ive down two of the three, and even though i tried to kill myself i havnt expierienced the third.but if i would have continued drinking i would have. It says on page 82 of the big book that we are like tornados roaring his was through the lives of others. And that is true. we hurt people, hurt our selves, etc. i tried to get sober but i was like, " why aren't all the promises and miracles happening." but you know they were happening i just didn't see then, now i do. ive got 37 days clean at age 17. even though im young ive lived the life of a thirty year old. i can not change the past, but i can make a better future by staying sober today, and letting God do for me what i cant do for myself. you may have a million bad moments a day, but you never have a bad day as long as you stay sober. promises happen if you let them, and God lets them happen not a minute late or a minute to soon. Remember One Day At A Time. thanks for letting me share.


Member: Marlena H.
Location: Roseville, CA
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 02:03:04

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Faith - What a great topic since I stayed up until 3 am last night writing a fourth step and calling an aa friend in the middle of the night to do a fifth step because I was so miserable that I could not sleep! The outcome: Lack of faith!!! I need to get out of my own way and let God Take over. I have faith in certain areas but not in others. I have to learn to depend on Him for financial security, replacement of lost jobs, furniture, clothes, etc... When I do the foot work and count on Him, it all works out. But of course I have this one area that I keep taking back. You know what, I QUIT. I SURRENDER. The big book says we ceased fighting everyone and everything, including alcohol. That is what I am doing. I CEASE FIGHTING! In giving up the fight, I let God take over. I am so relieved. So thank you all for your comments and inspiration. Remember, Dont Drink, Go to Meetings, Get a Sponsor, Work the Steps. The promises came true for me too. This program works...if you work it.


Member: Jay W.
Location: Delta Jct. Alaska
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 03:33:42

Comments

Hi, I'm Jay, a greatful recovered Alcoholic. I say recovered instead of recovering and if their are any questions I suggest you read your Big Book. The promisses are a great topic Faith, thank you. The promisses are the things I looked forward to perhabs my goal to stay sober . I wanted what they had (the winners), and it is all contained in the promisses. The new freedom , what a thrill not to look over my shoulder all the time and hold my head high . I have some 24 hours but I know where you new commers are " But for the grace of my higher power there go I " Thanks for letting me share


Member: rod m
Location: boise,ida.
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 07:03:12

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hi i'm rod, i'm an alcoholic. aa has given me a set of directions in my life. anything that is happening i have a solution. basically if i get rid of fear,resentment,selfishness and dishonestly i have faith. the solution is always the same, work the steps,go to meetings,talk to a sponsor and help another alcoholic. most of all keep coming back. thank you all for the time

rod


Member: Shawna W
Location: Central WI
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 08:00:04

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Hi Shawna Alcoholic. Patt O thank you so much for the idea. I went to a meeting last night and they all said pretty much the same thing.however,I must admit it didn't really hit me until I read it on my screen. I have so many things to be grateful for that I don't even think about. I have a new love for life and that in itself should make me happy. It was strange walking into a meeting after only a week of absense. I didn't think people would notice my absense WOW I was mistaken. I have been ill the last two days so I have been in bed reading alot in my BB! That also seems to help me alot. I thought I would never get to the point in my recovery when I would forget my first step and I realize that I did! Well,not forgotten just put it away in a hiding spot to never look at again. Last night before I went to bed I ended up thinking about it and I couldn't get any sleep. I think that was a sign from my HP reminding me that I am never too far away from that first drink. Now I can honestly say I can see at least a couple of the promises working in my daily life. Thanks again Patt and everyone for being here when I need it


Member: Tad C.
Location: Overland Park, Kansas
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 09:04:59

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Hi - I'm an alcoholic and Tad is my problem. Thanks for the topic, Faith. I need to remember to fit myself to be of maximum service to God and the people around me because without work I will fall into selfishness and the promises will slip away. It is wonderful to have the viscous cycle of craving, spree, remorse, craving, spree, remorse - removed. There is another "promise" on p. xxvii "On the other hand -- and strange as it may seem to those who don't understand -- once a psychic change has occurred, the very same person who seemed doomed, who had so many problems he despaired of ever solving them, suddenly finds himself easily able to control his desire for alcohol, the only effort necessary being that required to follow a few simple rules." Yes, the promises are wonderful. Today I need to remember to follow the suggestions - to do what I'm told - to look for opportunities for service - rather than trying so hard to run my life.


Member: Destine' W.
Location: Houston, TX
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 09:18:00

Comments

Destine' here & an alcoholic. For me, there are many promises throughout the big book. It promises me that I can stay sober one day at a time contigent on my spiritual maintenance. If I seek God's will for me & the power to carry it out, do the foot work, I stay sober. So far, this promise has materialized one day at a time and in the process, my relationship with Him is better than it's ever been - life is so much better. I never knew! He is what I've been looking for all of my life. It's funny how I had to go through a living hell in order to find this out. God is so-o-o wonderful. He's the answer to all my problems.

On my way to work this morning, I heard "Give another something no one else has and they'll keep coming back". That's exactly what Alcoholics Anonymous is for me -- something I can't find any where else -- that's why I keep coming back!!

Love you all & pray you "stay sober" just for today.


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 09:35:10

Comments

Hi everyone. I'm an alcoholic and my name is Teri. I'm very grateful to be sober today. Thanks for the topic.

The promises from page 83 and 84 of the Big Book are what gave me hope when I first got sober. I thought if just one or two of those things would happen for me, I'd be happy. Once again I realize that if left up to me, I'll always short change myself.

The promises didn't start happening for me just because I put down the drink. I thought just being sober (dry), and occupying space at a meeting should be enough to get me all I "deserved" in life. Wrong! The promises started coming true for me as a result of working those first nine steps. It wasn't easy, but in my experience, definitely worth it.

If you are new to this program, get yourself a sponsor (preferably one who goes to meetings, has worked the steps, and has a sponsor), and have that person guide you through the steps. If you want what we have, do what we do. This miracle of recovery can happen for you!

Someone earlier was asking someone else if the Big Book was the only book they read, and if it was their Bible. The Big Book isn't the only book I read, but it IS the only place I found the solution to my problem with alcohol. So far, everytime I've come across a problem with life on life's terms, I've always found the answer to that problem somewhere in the first 164 pages of that book. It is the instruction manual that has taught me how to live a sober life. Beleive me, I read hundreds of books over many years to try to figure out what was wrong with me. All my education and "knowledge" couldn't help me stop drinking. This program and that book were the only things that worked for me. They literally saved my life. It may be different for you.

Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Jodene Alcoholic
Location: OKC
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 11:08:50

Comments

Thank each of your for your posts. Faith, I truely thank you for this topic! I really heard what I needed to hear. I've been clean and sober since 7/17/89 and the last 2 years I've ACTED like I didn't know this is a "we" thing. Thank you for reminding me what I've given up because I stopped doing what I did in the begining. I've tasted peace of mind, freedom from fear and anger, and I WANT IT BACK! "Just" being sober isn't enough today. If I truely want those promises delivered, guess I'll have to ACT like it (stop settling for "the middle of the road solution", release my death grip on life and DO those simple things to reap the rewards). Thanks for letting me share.


Member: sasha
Location:
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 14:23:44

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Went out this weekend with a couple to a restaurant, and I looked around me and saw that most patrons were not drinking. It truly amazes me. Nor did I drink or anyone at my table. I think whoever said only the folks who themselves have a drinking problem will try to get me to drink. I am finding that the evenings I am going out and not drinking are richer. I was actually missing a lot when I sat there drinking through the evening, and was under the illusion that I was relaxing. Its also a relief to wake up the morning after seeing friends and not wonder if I was acting like a lunatic the night before, i.e., saying things I wouldn't say sober, slurring speech, etc. The guilt was so hard to deal with.


Member: whitney c.
Location: maryland
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 15:01:31

Comments

hi, i'm whitney and just last satruday i went to a school dance drunk off of dry gin. i am 15 years old and have been drinking since i was 12. i am not an alcoholic yet but i know if i keep going @ this rate i will soon get there. please help!


Member: David S
Location: Chicago
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 15:08:46

Comments

Thanks to all let me just start by saying promises arewhat we live by thanks to those those promises I am sober 3 weeks


Member: Cindy M
Location: South Bay, California
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 15:41:20

Comments

HI, I'm Cindy and I'm a grateful alcoholic. I've been sober for almost six years, but I've only been working a program since Sept. 98. Even though I was able to stay dry, I was full of 'isms' - ego, self will run riot, fear and resentment. I went into therapy and even that didn't help me. My therapist finally said " I can no longer help you. Whether you believe it or not you need A.A." I took her advice and started going to meetings. I found a sponsor and am working my steps ( but I'm really having a hard time with Step 4, any advice?) I also have a service commitment at 2 meetings. Recovery really does start with one alcoholic talking to another. And the promises do come; since I've been in A.A. I've begun to feel serenity. I wake up in a good mood almost every day! I don't lose my temper as much because I try not to have expectations. I pray every morning that I may accept the day before me as a new beginning, and that I do God's will and not my own. I've found that I like helping people, and that the more I help the more I receive. This is an active program, and the promises are there to whomever wants to receive them. Whitney, I too started drinking at 13, and by the time I was 15 my best friend was a bottle of Jack Daniels. This program will be here for you when you want it, all you have to do is ask. This is the best place you could have come. Thanks for letting me share


Member: Geri W
Location: Va
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 16:47:43

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Geri, a very grateful alcoholic here. Hi family.

Before I get to the promises, let me give all the "newbies" a welcome hug. You don't know it yet, but you guys really help us with a few 24's to stay sober. Thanks for being here.

When I fell through the doors of AA, the promises were the not important to me. I needed to get sober or die. Only after the fog cleared, was I able to even follow the meetings. All I heard at first was "keeping coming back and don't drink between meetings." It worked for me.

After following the "suggestions" in the Big Book, which included going to meetings, getting a sponsor, working the steps and carrying the message, the promises started coming true for me. They are still there. I have been truly blessed - cause all I have to do is do the next right thing. And remember there is a new Director of my life.

Is my life wonderful? You bet. Does life present problems? You bet. Do I know where to go for the answers? YOU BET! I'm never alone in this deal - for the first time in my life and I am one grateful alcholic.

So, as was taught to me, " don't drink, trust the God of Your understanding and help another alcoholic. The promises will come true for you too.


Member: Teri F.
Location: Marion, Ohio
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 17:29:19

Comments

Hi again. Sorry for the double post.

Whitney--I know quite a few very young alcoholics and drug addicts. The great misconception is you have to drink alot for many years to become an alcoholic. NOT TRUE!!! It's not how much or how often we drink, but what happens WHEN we drink that's the problem. For me, once I took that first drink I had absolutely no control over how much I would drink or what would happen as a result of my drinking. If you have been drinking since you were twelve and are now questioning whether or not you might have a problemn at 15, you probably do. Call AA in your area and ask to speak to a FEMALE about any questions you might have. There are probably kids your age or close to your age in the program. If nothing else, it might help clear up some fears you have about your drinking. Good luck to you sweetheart and keep posting here to let us know how you are doing. If I can be of any help or answer any of your questions, please feel free to email me: teri_fout@msn.com

Cindy M.---I can't give you any advice about the 4th step but I can share my experience with you. If I'm having a problem with a step it usually means I'm not done working the one before it.

Thanks for letting me share again.


Member: Fran A.
Location: South Carolina
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 17:43:16

Comments

Often when I hear the promises read at the beginning of a meeting, I always try to remember that these promises come after the ninth step in the BB, however, there are many other promises, like the Big Book main purpose is to enable us to find a power greater than ourselves. The 44 stories in the back relate how each alcoholic discovered a Power greater than themselves. I stayed dry much of the last 16 years, but never could keep it together because I failed to understand that the book would wake me spiritually if I would read and study it.


Member: Jean-Marc M.
Location: Paris (France)
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 19:29:32

Comments

Hello everyone, my name's Jean-Marc. I'm a french alcoholic living in Paris, and I'm very glad to meet you guys here. After five years and some months of sobriety, I'm still puzzled by the promises, especially the one about financial insecurity. The longer I'm sober, the more I'm broke. Curious, is'nt it? Even considering the fact that I'm a writer, which is probably not the best way to make a fortune. By the way, I had always wanted to write books, and was able to write my first book after six months of sobriety - and it has been published. A promise fullfilled, and a miracle, I guess. Anyway, I'm working the program with the grace of God and the friendship and support of all my AA friends. Best regards to all of you, especially for the newcomers.


Member: Steve F.
Location: Wenham, MA
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 19:39:22

Comments

Steve here, alcoholic.

Whitney - I was alcoholic by the time I was 15, but it took me 37 more years of agony before I could admit it. You are so lucky to be asking yourself that question now. Please take Teri F.'s advice and call Alcoholics Anonymous. The number is in the front of every phone book. You don't have to be an alcoholic to ask questions or go to a few meetings. I wish you luck.


Member: Nina U.
Location: Madison Lake, Minnesota
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 19:54:24

Comments

Hi All My name is Nina and I'm an alcoholic and drug addict. The promises wow what a great topic! Well when i sit and take a look of me life sence I went clean it's amazing. Things have been given and taken away. But eather way it was all for the good. When I went sober I didn't have much in my life. I lived with my parents and worked job to get my next high or drunk. Sence then my HP has sent me to school, given me a wonderful caring man, but don't get me wrong we have had our ups and downs, then I had to quit because of a bad pregnancy, given me a beautiful set of twin boys, that i was never supposed to have in the first place, but my boys have never seen me drunk or high, and a serene and for the most part happy life. I have been graced with a wonderful family that is all in this program, sometimes a blessing and sometimes it drives me nuts. But it's all good. When things go bad i usually have taken over and took it away from my HP. But as soon as i give it back to HP. It seems to get better.

I wanted to say welcome to all the newcommers and let them know that if they keep comming back it will work out. The promises really do happen! The steps work if you work them. Luv&Hugs Nina U.


Member: Jean C.
Location: Savannah, TN
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 21:25:41

Comments

Hi I'm Jean Alcoholic and drug addict. The promises for me have taken a while to come true, as for the finanical part I think it take us a while to get use to spending money the right way.We were so use to our addiction that we got use to not thinking about our other responsibility's. Now that I am sober sometime's I feel over whelmed at the responsibility that I do have. Today that is not a reason to get drunk. I have a relation ship with a higher power, I have a job, a family, & a home that I never thought was possible. This doen't mean life is perfict by any means. I still have to do the work each day to keep in touch with my higher power. Such as reading my morning devotional, & keeping in contact with my higher power, because if I don't these promises will never come true or will end that day. I have relapsed 3 different times and have loss things that were very dear to me. But the worst one is loosing your higher power & the feeling of being seperated from that power. I have by the grace of God been clean now for 5 1/2 years, been through a bad accident, several surgeries, but I know that my higher power is looking out for me or else I wouldn't be here today! To all the new comers I have to say please keep trying no matter how many times it takes, It will happen, If I stay out of the way and let my Higher Power do take controll.


Member: Jean C.
Location: Savannah, TN
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 21:26:07

Comments

Hi I'm Jean Alcoholic and drug addict. The promises for me have taken a while to come true, as for the finanical part I think it take us a while to get use to spending money the right way.We were so use to our addiction that we got use to not thinking about our other responsibility's. Now that I am sober sometime's I feel over whelmed at the responsibility that I do have. Today that is not a reason to get drunk. I have a relation ship with a higher power, I have a job, a family, & a home that I never thought was possible. This doen't mean life is perfict by any means. I still have to do the work each day to keep in touch with my higher power. Such as reading my morning devotional, & keeping in contact with my higher power, because if I don't these promises will never come true or will end that day. I have relapsed 3 different times and have loss things that were very dear to me. But the worst one is loosing your higher power & the feeling of being seperated from that power. I have by the grace of God been clean now for 5 1/2 years, been through a bad accident, several surgeries, but I know that my higher power is looking out for me or else I wouldn't be here today! To all the new comers I have to say please keep trying no matter how many times it takes, It will happen, If I stay out of the way and let my Higher Power do take controll.


Member: Pat R.
Location: St. Louis, Mo.
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 21:31:10

Comments

Bonjour, Jean-Marc. I'm Pat, an alcoholic and addict. The promises don't state that we'll be rich, famous, or that all out troubles will disappear. To me, they mean that I no longer have to live in fear and as an "old-timer" once said, I can be "reasonably" happy, joyous and free. I don't have to live on a roller-coaster and I have peace as "we trudge the road to our happy destiny."


Member: Jimmy C
Location: Tampa, Fl
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 21:34:36

Comments

Hi my name is Jimmy and I,m a alcoholic. I,m comming back from a long relapse(over two years)and now have two weeks back but I still haven't made a live meeting yet( still scared to go back)so I'm trying this online to get back on track and avoid that first drink again. I defintely want those promises to work in my life and look forward to sharing my experience. I've been trying to get sober since 1988 and managed to get three years but tried some controlled drinking again. I had enough and I would like to start over again. Right now I need to listen more than anything else. I'm hanging in there and didn't drink today!


Member: JIMMY  J
Location: MEMPHIS  TN
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 22:09:45

Comments

HI I'M JIMMY AND I AM AN ALOCHOLIC. THE PROMISES DO COME TRUE AND IF YOU WANT THEM NOW JUST WORK THE STEPS. THE PROMISES HAPPEN IN YOUR LIFE JUST AS SOON AS WE DO THE NINTH STEP. AND THATS A PROMISE. THE PROMISES ARE PLACED IN THE BIG BOOK AFTER THE NINTH STEP FOR A REASON IT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH TAKING THAT COURAGOUS STEP AND LETTING GOD CLEAN UP OUR PAST.


Member: gary h
Location: ill
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 23:03:06

Comments

hi im gary and im a alcoholic and stoner this is a first stop for me and i hope this is going to help. i was in rehab in 1985 and stayed sober for about 8 months but that was it. i feel a great void now and i know its time. i dont remember about the topic but im trying to find a meeting in my area but still in denial.thanks for listening. gary


Member: Linda K.
Location: PA
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 23:19:07

Comments

Just for a little levity in this most wonderful meeting, you should be aware that the unwritten 13th promise is: "We will no longer be able to say with ANY conviction whatsoever: I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy!"


Member: Bob G. 
Location: n. ill.
Date: 06 Apr 1999
Time: 23:45:55

Comments

To Gary H. Ill. just try and find a meeting to go to in your local newspaper community calendar of events or see if you can locate an 800 hotline number in your phonebook. Otherwise you might call an operator and ask if they have a listing for an AA hotline phone number. If you want to find a meeting you will and if your not ready yet you'll just justify and rationalize to yourself that it'll be okay to get drunk this time . I never try to stop anyone from taking a drink, that's their choice for today not mine. The only thing I know for sure today is that I know I have another drunk left in me. I just don't know if I'll ever get another chance to recover. Gary,AA might be the place you'll find what your looking for and it might not,but then that will be your choice. good luck Bob G. n.ill.


Member: deirdre s.
Location: oh!
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 00:53:32

Comments

deirdre, I'm alcoholic...

no coincidences- I read through the promises last night at a mtg- if I recall, these promises are a result of the 8th & 9th step- a truly wonderful experience for all of us who are "painstaking" at this phase of our development

it's only by living the spiritual principles aa teaches, that I've experienced the freedom and joy God has for me- every day, if I choose to live it. It's all about ridding me of self- and that 9th step- what a courageous undertaking... it humbled me in a way I can't explain,- & yeah, I know, when you finally realize you are humble, you've just lost it!- but you can almost sense who in the rooms have experienced these steps- it is life changing- God help all of us as we seek to do His will...


Member: Jean-Marc M.
Location: Paris (France)
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 10:53:02

Comments

Hello, my name's Jean-Marc. I'm an alcoholic. Many thanks to you all for your shares, particularly to Pat. I was just forgetting two things: that the promises "will always materialize", that is "sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly". It was a bout of depression, I suppose. Once again, many thanks for your support and friendship.


Member: Jodene Alcoholic
Location: OKC
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 11:40:06

Comments

Excuse my double dip. JEAN-MARC:The Promises do NOT promise we'll not have financial difficulties. The PROMISE is the FEAR of economic insecurity will leave us. And isn't that a wonderful thing! If I owe anyone amends for double-dipping, let me know.<jodenet@animal.net>


Member: Jodene Alcoholic
Location: OKC
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 11:42:14

Comments

oops! <jodenet@animail.net>


Member: Scott J
Location: New Hampshire
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 13:27:09

Comments

The promises! The promises! When Bill W. wrote an encouraging description of the results of working the ninth step on page 83 of the book Alcoholics Anonymous, he probably had no idea that those results would become widely known as The Promises. At meetings, I hear all sorts of "promises" about how life improves for an alcoholic who is sober and works the steps. My guess is that it's different for everyone, different results at different times when working different steps.

What I know is this: less than 5 years ago, my mind was consumed with fear, self-pity, self-loathing, jealosy, anger, depression and hatred. I had grown up feeling this way. Alcohol gave me great relief for a few years, but once it stopped working, these negative thoughts & emotions came on worse than they ever were. And yet I continued to seek relief in alcohol, sinking deeper and deeper into my personal hell.

Today, I rarely feel hate or anger. My fears are fewer and less paralyzing. The jealosy is often absent in the presense of the honest happiness I now feel when good things happen to other people. I'm beginning to take good care of myself. My self-loathing has lessened into occasionally being too hard on myself. The bouts of self-pity I used to have are becoming infrequent, and the bouts of gratitude I never used to have are becoming more frequent. I love the freedom and sanity of sobriety. I never want to go back to all of the hate and fear that used to darken my life.


Member: Francis
Location: Maui, Hawaii
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 13:30:52

Comments

Going for day 3 today! I like this forum better than meetings in a small town too. Thanks for your comments and support the other day everyone! This may not be the last time I quit, but it may last longer than the last time;-)X Alcohol really is pretty seductive isn't it? In recognition of 'the promises' theme, I must admit I feel somewhat more at peace and in control of my life already. I just hope it lasts! I'll keep ya'll posted. Wish me luck! And say a little prayer for the people who are still stuck in the loop if you have a moment. Alohaha's & God bless you all~~~~~~~~~~~~


Member: Heather D.
Location: Scranton,PA
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 13:54:27

Comments

Hi my name is Heather& I'm alcoholic&drug additicI've been sober for 6 years and it took me about five an half years to figure out that if I would have done the 4&5th step in my first year the promises would have come ture more quickly then waiting so long to do what i needed to do.

In the past 6 months so many of the promises came true like #6. If I've learned anything it is when you join A.A. half-measures don't avail you anything.


Member: Michelle F
Location:
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 16:11:14

Comments

Hi everyone, My name is Michelle. I'm not sure what I am either. I know I,m feeling pretty shitty right now. I am in a relationship with another alcoholic. I never had a real problem with alcohol,although I have a terribly addictive personality. I know there's a "A" for me out there,I'm just not sure which one I should be tapping into. Alcohol just happens to be my anesthesia of choice right now. I am so depressed, I can't even stand it. I am so tired of being full of these "holes". I don't understand why I always have to choose self sabotaging remedies to fill them. I am angry that I have another monkey on my back. I am frightened by the whole recovery process.At times all my addictions seem way too much to bear. Although I am not suicidal, I can't help but want to run. The only problem is I don't know where to run to. Is there anyone out there who shares these feelings? This is the first time I've admitted to myself or anyone else that I have a problem. The thought of spending the rest of my life in this head space terrifies me. I would really appreciate someone getting back to me if only to say they understand. I can be reached at Hickorystump@worldnet.att.net.I'm not ready yet for a meeting.


Member: Chris C.
Location: Ottumwa, Iowa
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 16:58:14

Comments

Thanks for sharing, Michelle. Keep coming back. If you can't face a meeting yet, try reading the book "Alcoholics Annonymous." It can be found in book stores and libraries. There is also literature on AA's website. Hope to see more of you.

Hi everybody. My name is Chris and I'm an alcoholic. When I got here, I didn't care anything about any promises. I just wanted the current crisis to go away. It did. Plus I also received gifts beyond my imagination. Not deserved, but given anyway. A relationship with God. A love for myself and my fellow man. Friendships like I didn't know existed. Multiple reasons to live and a purpose to each day. Life doesn't get any better.

Also, seeing as my H.P. is a carpenter from the the Middle East, I want to wish everyone a happy and holy Easter. Thanks for reading. I'll pass.


Member: Claudia A.
Location: NJ
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 17:40:48

Comments

Claudia, Alcoholic

Thanks for the topic. the promises bring such a wave of peace over me. I especially make use of "God is doing for me what i can't do for myself'. I was in a very fearful place eearlier in the week. Remeber steps 1,2 and 3 and that God is in charge got me out of it. I felt so diconnected, so I asked for a huge sign and it was given to me. I feel connected again. My HP got me out of it. The promises do come true. Thank you God. Thank you for the topic and all of you for being here and sharing.


Member: Michelle C.
Location: Chicago, IL
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 18:06:44

Comments

GARY H. FROM ILLINOIS...I am from Chicago and if you need help finding a meeting you can e-mail me or call the local downtown office at (312)-346-1475 and ask for a meeting near you. I have already commented but want to add that if you are a newcomer and want to find a meeting, call 411 and ask for the AA office near you. If I hadn't picked up a phone and asked for help I'd still be out there. Today, I continue to ask for help on a DAILY BASIS. Sometimes I don't see the promises coming true in my life quickly enough but they will work if I work for them. Thanks for letting me share again. One Day At A Time!


Member: Pat R.
Location: St. Louis, Mo
Date: 07 Apr 1999
Time: 20:56:46

Comments

Hi Michelle (and Jean-Marc), My name is Pat and I'm an alcoholic. Michelle, you expressed my feelings to a "T" right before I came into the program. I fought the denial until I was sick and tired of fighting. What was I afraid of, I'll never really understand. Just that my life might be different. Thank God it is! I was told if it looks like a duck and it walks like a duck, then it must be a duck. But I had to decide that for myself. It took a long time to get past the denial but that's the nature of the disease. On the other hand, if you are not an alcoholic, the 12 steps are a wonderful program for anyone.


Member: john l
Location: pa
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 00:33:42

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hi, i'm john an alcoholic great reading such positive messages. i've found all the promises come, sometimes big and sometimes so small you can overlook them. my higher power directs me towards them, either in the rooms or through others. i just have to look and listen and be grateful for what i have. it took me 9years to get my 2year coin. promises working right there.


Member: Joe R.
Location: sdiego,ca
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 00:41:26

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My name is Joe and I am an alcoholic

To Michelle, Try this site for Big Book information. http://www.recovery.org/aa/bigbook/ww/index.html


Member: BA
Location: Hagerstown MD
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 10:41:43

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Hi! My name is BA and i'm an alcoholic. I have learned that the promises do come true - but it's after having prepared myself for them by doing steps 1-9. I think that if i had been given the promises after step one, i couldn't have handled them, and would have gone back out.

This is for everyone, but especially Jean-Mark. The fear of financial insecurity has come true in my life - for one thing, after 7 years sober coming up on the 20th, i can actually KEEP a job! I was never able to work longer than a year or so at any job,( most of the time it lasted a few months) because employers like you to come into work in the morning at the appointed time - not straggle in 2-3 hours later with some lame excuse. Silly rules.

for a long time, i lived paycheck to paycheck. miss one paycheck, and i was out on the street, two paychecks, and i was in serious debt. With working, and with setting some goals for myself financially (something i learned in the program - working steps!) i have paid off and canceled 11 credit cards, paid off my dentist, and several past bills - part of making amends my higher power told me to. HP has given me the financial ability to do that through the program

Let me give you the latest example. Right now i'm taking a two week unpaid loa because my mother was in the hospital, and needs me to help now that she's out, since my father passed away last december, she didn't have anyone else. I was worried about making my rent which is 300.00 I prayed to HP about it, and lo and behold, i have been given a speaking engagement (non-aa) which is paying me - you guessed it, 300.00!

the promises do not say you're going to win the lottery - but they do promise freedom from financial insecurity. It takes work on my part to insure that.

One last thing - in a group in Harrisburg PA i attend when i'm in that area, when the promsies are read, after the line "are these extravagant promises" the entire group yells "we think not!" I think that's a great idea for all groups when the promises are read!


Member: Tom A.
Location: Carlisle, AR
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 14:07:12

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Good Afternoon to all my friends on Staying Cyers Discussion meeting dealing with "The Promises." Thank you "faith c." from Arkansas for this stimulating topic.

My name is Tom A. I am a grateful sober alcoholic today by the grace of a wonderful Higher Power and this Fellowship of Alcoholic's Anonymous.

I have not found it necessary to take that first drink since July 25, 1960. Those folks told me that it was the First Drink that got me drunk and that I needed to make sobriety the most important thing in my life, one day at a time. I remember coming home from a meeting my first year in the program and I looked at my wife Lois and told her that my sobriety was the most important thing in my life. I don't think, infact, I know today she didn't appreaciate my saying that, but today she would certainly echo that feeling. I might add in October of this year we will celebrate 46 years of marriage bliss. I am reminded that this is a suggested program of recovery and that each of us needs to plan and work out our own program of recovery and the greatest PROMISE I have ever received is this. If you don't take the First Drink Tom, you will not get physically drunk and you know I found that to be true. I still go to meetings because Marty M. in her talk one night in Washington D.C., she was 35 years sober at the time, said "I still go to my one meeting aweek."

I thank everyone for their posts this week! I'm sure something that has been said will be just the thing I need to stay sober this day. By the way to all the newcomers. Someone told me a long time ago that by the time we get to AA we are a least two years late! This is a cunning, baffling and powerful disease.

Enjoy Your Sobriety Today!

God Bless - Tom A. ate@gte.net


Member: Billy M.
Location: NEE
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 16:41:47

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Hi, I'm Billy M. an alcoholic: More shall be revealed. If you doubt for even a minute that the promises aren't with us everyday just look back to yesterday and how it was and then take a good look at where you are today. If just one of those promises have been fulfilled you have gained another day of God's grace working. I like to look upon promises as rewards for trudging along this road to happy destiny. The promises must be earned. they are earned by living this way of life. You can't talk God out of a promise but it will be freely given to you in his time not yours.


Member: Marcia D
Location: Burbank, CA
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 18:11:10

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The greatest promise: "It works, it really does." Line 8, page 88 in the Big Book! Marcia D.


Member: Marcia D
Location: Burbank, CA
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 18:11:45

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The greatest promise: "It works, it really does." Line 8, page 88 in the Big Book! Marcia D.


Member: Marcia D
Location: Burbank, CA
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 18:12:20

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The greatest promise: "It works, it really does." Line 8, page 88 in the Big Book! Marcia D.


Member: Marcia D
Location: Burbank, CA
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 18:12:56

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The greatest promise: "It works, it really does." Line 8, page 88 in the Big Book! Marcia D.


Member: Jim Cross
Location: Pacoima, CA
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 18:18:00

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Hi, Jim Cross, Alcoholic- I couldn't imagine that I would ever be at peace with myself or feel good about about myself. I would never have thought that someone would want me around them. I didn't have very much self-worth over the years. I have found that peace and serenity, and life is worth living. And I thank God. Jim Sobriety Date: August 4, 1968


Member: Leo D
Location: Saint Clair, Pa
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 19:24:53

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Hi everybody, My name is Leo and i am an aloholic. this is a good topic and one that i am just beginning to experience. I first came into the program in 1982 and have been in and out of the rooms several times. I didnt want to put any work into the program and expecxted, i guess, to get it by osmosis. I am now close to 90 days sober again but here is a major differecnce this time around. Its due to the fact that i have been granted an open mind, a willingness and the capacity to be honest. i received these gifts through prayer and meditation, working with a sponser and working the steps. I truly got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I am filled with a hope that i have never experienced in my entire life. I read the promises almost daily and i guess i finally belive this is possible in my life today. thank you all for being here for me.

god bless you all Leo D leod@ptdprolog.net


Member: Pat H.
Location: N.S.B.,Florida
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 20:39:25

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Wow! I'm Pat an alcoholic. Sobriety date 5/7/81 by the grace of a loving God and this wonderful fellowship-people like you. Great topic! There are promises throughout the Big Book,not just after the 9th step. Every day I wake up to the promise of a new day. I have learned that If i attune my will with that of my Highet Power, my life is greater than my fondest dreams. If any one is struggling with staying sober, I can make you a promise. If you "pick up the spiritual tools laid at your feet" by the program of A.A. you need never drink again. Thanks for my recovery One Day at a Time.


Member: Shawna B.
Location: Missouri
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 23:41:32

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Greetings! I'm Shawna and I'm an alcoholic/addict. I'm in my fifth year sober and loving it! I never knew life could be a good thing before AA. I saw it as filled with chaos and crisis and shame and guilt. I was in the program for nearly 2 years before I realized what the promises held for ME! I finally relized I had to be more than sober, I had to be free from the guilt and shame that life as a user held me in. I could not move forward until I accepted the promises as something not just recited at meetings, but as living parts of my struggle for sanity and happiness in sobriety.My whole life revolved around alcohol from the day I was born. My father was an alcoholic and when he quit when I was 12, I picked up where he left off. I used for nearly 15 years before I hit a wall in my life;I had hit complacency. Things weren't getting worse, but they weren't getting better. At this time I was trying to just be sober. I thought if I just quit, I would be happy like all these members I saw every night, like my sponser. But until I saw what the promises really held for me, I was lost. They were the one thing that restored my faith in AA and in God at a time when I thought I could get no better in sobriety. After all this time, I read over the promises and feel so overwhelmed by their impact on my life then and now. Ten years ago I never believed I would ever be happy. But I did it with God,s help and with the help of all of you out there who took the time to explain it all to me and repeatedly tell me "It works if you work it"!!!!!


Member: Shawna B.
Location: Missouri
Date: 08 Apr 1999
Time: 23:42:39

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Greetings! I'm Shawna and I'm an alcoholic/addict. I'm in my fifth year sober and loving it! I never knew life could be a good thing before AA. I saw it as filled with chaos and crisis and shame and guilt. I was in the program for nearly 2 years before I realized what the promises held for ME! I finally relized I had to be more than sober, I had to be free from the guilt and shame that life as a user held me in. I could not move forward until I accepted the promises as something not just recited at meetings, but as living parts of my struggle for sanity and happiness in sobriety.My whole life revolved around alcohol from the day I was born. My father was an alcoholic and when he quit when I was 12, I picked up where he left off. I used for nearly 15 years before I hit a wall in my life;I had hit complacency. Things weren't getting worse, but they weren't getting better. At this time I was trying to just be sober. I thought if I just quit, I would be happy like all these members I saw every night, like my sponser. But until I saw what the promises really held for me, I was lost. They were the one thing that restored my faith in AA and in God at a time when I thought I could get no better in sobriety. After all this time, I read over the promises and feel so overwhelmed by their impact on my life then and now. Ten years ago I never believed I would ever be happy. But I did it with God,s help and with the help of all of you out there who took the time to explain it all to me and repeatedly tell me "It works if you work it"!!!!!


Member: DebbieG.
Location: Washington state
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 05:07:27

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hi everybody,Debbie alcoholic here and want to respond to shawna w in wisconsin......I know what youre saying about feeling like not wanting meetings any more, or kinda like youve had enough for now... and knowing that its not a good place to be in (thats what i heard anyway) I am feeling the same way lately. I want to stay sober more now thatn ever but sometimes I feel like Im just floating and not getting anywhere. I used to go to atleast one meeting every day but lately havent been able to. and I have noticed Ive been thinking crazy thoughts like maybe I am not alcoholc after all. what happened most recently to me was I started thinking about my younger days when first married, had a home , lots of family around for get togethers and such, good job and all that "stuff" anyway, I was divorced from that one, remarried, acquired 2 additional kids, home car etc. etc. and did alot of partying but managed to keep all those things,(need to mention I did alot of blackout drinking all those years and spent alot of time apologizeing for my behavior during them) but had a life so to speack.. I divorced him in nov. of 94 and started drinking lots and doing alot of drugs and in a little less than 3 months I went on a drunken evening spree and totaled out my car wrecking it three times in one night in a blackout and getting a dwi and that getting me to aa. As I write this I am starting to realize that alot of the promises have come true for me.I was thinking that my life wasnt so bad before but boy I can see right now that iot is sooooo much better today than it was back then. I guess when I started typing tonite I was thinking is there any thing more to this than what it is.( I apologize for my rambling here tonite) some things never change LOL I need to say that i am very grateful to be here and be sober enough to realize what a mouthful I just spewed all over these pages.thanks for listening!!!


Member: Francis
Location: Maui, Hawaii
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 13:25:21

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Well Here goes day FIVE without alchol, I might even try not smoking pot today! I already have seen improvements in my level of concentration in algebra class! And I really do feel much more in control of my life already too! Thats most likely only an illusion, but if I can stay sober I know in my heart it will become reality. I need some encouragement and really look forward to reading your comments and suggestions. I haven't been to a meeting yet and don't know if I could ever walk through the doorway. Why is that so hard? Is it diffucult for everyone? This fourm seems like a really great place to share the fact that I feel like an alcholic/addict. There thats like the FIRST time I have tried to admit that to anyone else! I guess it really is true that these substances are controlling me, and I am NOT EVEN in control of my own life when they are! I really wish there was an easy solution I could invoke to end this problem. But I guess ya'll are it! I have been very lucky so far in that I have never been inducted into the DUI/criminal justice system. I have seen the effects it has on people and I don't think involuntary forced programs work. Staying sober is a personal choice that takes desire, drive and inner strength, I hope I've got what it takes! I really do see the promises comming over the horizon already! What I need now is to keep the things which are important to me, like my daughter, right in front of my face. This is NOT a drill! I hope some of you don't mind giving me a little encouragement! I really do kind of dread the idea of failing now that I have announced these things. This will be my first sober weekend in a long time. I hope I can make it! Thanks for your insight and support. Alohaha's


Member: Ron S
Location: Belle River. ON. Canada
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 14:33:21

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Thanks Faith.Hi I,m Ron.S Alcoholic,I have been a part of AA for the past 11 years. I have had my ups and downs and seen the promises come true when I work the steps to the fullest.Half measures avail us nothing.I,m proof of that, when I get complacent or forget about the 12th step and leave the new guy out of my life I then begin to take things on by myself.Well you know the rest right? Down hill of course! Thanks to all for sharing!And thank God for AA!!


Member: Kirstin M.
Location: CT
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 17:10:53

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Kirstin, Alcoholic

Francis, I can remember going to my first meeting with total dread. "Who wants to admit complete defeat and powerlessness?" I am considered one of the "high-bottom" drunks because I did not lose much to get into the rooms of AA. I have never lost a job, had a DUI, lost my family, been to jail/detox/mental institution, and my health is still excellent. What got me into the rooms of AA was partly my common sense and a will to live happily. At one point while I was still actively drinking, I was completely suicidal. At one time alcohol and weed (yeah, I was a pothead too) were the only things that "made me feel good." The more I tried to "feel better," the more remorseful and suicidal I became. I thought I was losing my mind - I felt hopeless, helpless, and in a deep dark pit of fear and confusion, and I couldn't pull myself out of it. I was just adding fuel to my fire, so to speak. I was in such denial that abusing substances was part of my problem. Living in an altered state of perception is exactly that - NOT living in reality... so my perceptions of EVERYTHING was distorted. I walked into a meeting my first time afraid of being judged and labeled and stereotyped, etc... But I found a group of people with a common problem and a common solution. By listening to others, I realized that I WAS on this progressive road of alcholism, and eventually I would experience many things that were yet to come if I continued using the way I did. We all love to have a good time, remember - and I was shown how to do it without abusing substances... One promise I was guaranteed was that life would get different if I became and remained sober. They were all right, and here I am, nine years later, still sober...... AND HAPPY. I do everything today I used to do drunk, and MORE! The only thing different is that I do not drink anymore, and life is a balance of changes and challenges.... Just take it one day at a time. Stay sober just for today -(my sponsor always tell me this and then I can have a drink next week (Ha, Ha)....) Ciao


Member: Hollywood
Location: cambridge Idaho
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 20:13:35

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Hi im Hollywood and I am an alcoholic. The promises that you have red in the big book do start to come true with strength gained by sobriety and through grater understanding of your higher power. My life has change considerably and overcoming some obsticles placed in my way have allways been answerd. God can and will if he were saught. Remember that when praying to your higher power that it is only for knowledge of his will. Not what he can do for you. Thank everyone for being here and thanks for a great topic. God bless us all.


Member: Michelle M.
Location: Southbay. CA
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 21:05:41

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My name is Michelle M. and I am an alcoholic. I haven't been to a meeting for about four months. I am 4 years sober. I worked my steps. I believe that some of the promises have come through in my life. I pray on a daily basis and try to live with love for all of God's creatures. I am not in practice sharing. I did not take a cake for my 4th birthday. I just was not excited about it. Thanks for listening.


Member: Pat S.
Location:
Date: 09 Apr 1999
Time: 22:23:39

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Hi Room, Just want to say I made it today and we will see what tomorrow brings. With the grace of GOD I will do well and be real.


Member: Ron S
Location: Belle River. ON. Canada
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 09:04:30

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Dear Michelle M.

Hi I,m Ron S.I am an alcoholic.Getting complacent is deadly I have failed to stay sober and cuased many heart aces in just the same way.Please get to a meeting!! I have also thought things were going good and stop GOING TO MEETINGS.I FORGOT THE 12 step Graditude I can,t keep something if I don,t give it away.I have probably made most of the mistacke I could make I pray that the new man in AA will keep me on my toes.Thanks Michelle M. The promises are true if we work for them.


Member: Ron S
Location: Belle River. ON. Canada
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 09:05:48

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Dear Michelle M.

Hi I,m Ron S.I am an alcoholic.Getting complacent is deadly I have failed to stay sober and cuased many heart aces in just the same way.Please get to a meeting!! I have also thought things were going good and stop GOING TO MEETINGS.I FORGOT THE 12 step Graditude I can,t keep something if I don,t give it away.I have probably made most of the mistakes I could make I pray that the new man in AA will keep me on my toes.Thanks Michelle M. The promises are true if we work for them.


Member: Colleen W
Location: DE
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 09:25:40

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Hi! Colleen,alcoholic. I didn't even realize that some of the promises are coming true for me until I got to this page. Thanks Faith. The promise I really notice the most is that my whole outlook on life has changed. Francis in Maui, you say you can't act normal wihtout alcohol. I found for myself my concept of normal was way off base. I never was "normal" while drinking. Like the promise says, our outlook changes. I think Sasha is beginning to see that too. I used to think everyone drank when they went out to dinner. When I stopped I noticed how many ohters were actually drinking nonalcoholic beverages. By the way, thanks Sasha. You fulfilled another promise, sharing with others will help us. You mentioned in one of your posts something I had said here. The really great part is I said it hoping you would see. Thanks! As far as our outlook changing, I want to comment to Sean in Vegas that I too thought I had lived the life of a 30 year old by the time I was 17. Heck I thought that by 15. Now after only a few months of sobriety, I realize that most non alcoholic 30 year olds still have not done,seen or been where I have. Thank God!!! I've done and seen some pretty awful things not to mention having been in hell right here on earth. Also have to go along with Debbie G in WA. I didn't think things were too bad. I had a job, home etc... But WOW!!!!!!!! are things ever so much better now. I'm beginning to see another promise on the horizon serenity. I don't quite have it yet but I believe it's on the way. I feel much calmer and try even harder to look for the good and leave the rest behind in everything. That's probably why I relate to how Chris B in GA feels. I want to "save the world" or at least my part of it from this horrible curse called alcohol. I know why it's called firewater now. It's not because it burns going down but because it's a "gift' from Lucifer made in the pit of Hell. One promise that comes without any work is if you don't take just one drink, you won't get drunk. Gone on much too long already but I do want to say to Mouse if your out there, I miss seeing a post from you this week. You always seem to have something to say that hits home for me. Hope you're off on a holiday or something happy. Hugs to all. OH YEAH! Francis, maybe your so reluctant to go tho a meeting because you're afrais someone might see you there. When I finally admitted to myself that I had a problem it didn't mean I wanted everyone to know it. But then I realized, if there at that meeting, they must have a problem too. They will not point any fingers at me. They were to busy opening their arms to embrace me. Also have found now, the more people I admit too, the more support I seem to get.Especially from myself Hope that made sense. Good luck to us all.


Member: Avril G
Location: Driffield UK
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 10:58:14

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'If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half-way through....................... Fear of economic insecurity will leave us.........We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us. WOW, I do believe the promises are happening for ME today. I'm Avril, alcoholic, and I am awaiting my third divorce!! Previous two divorces happened in drink, and both were very messy, very violent, vengeful, hateful affairs which I 'coped' with in the only way I knew how. Straight from the bottle neck. In sobriety, I met and married a recovering alkie, sadly, it has not worked out, and I am starting a new phase of my own personal development. My financial situatio is not too good right now, but I am happy, joyous and free, and thanks to damn good sponsorship, I have identified my NEEDS, and they are all met. The wants I have to continue to work on. This divorce is being done without the need of solicitors - how's that for intuitively handling situations which used to baffle us. I do not hate my soon-to-be ex-husband. Far from it, but because of the situation ending up as it did, I had to love him enough to let him go, and most remarkable of all - we can still speak to each other. July 11th 1999, God-willing, is my 9th AA anniversary. Thank you all for being there


Member: Shawn K
Location: N Y C , U.S.    
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 12:07:41

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First and foremost I'd like to thank my Lord and Saviour JESUS Christ for another day of life and my sobriety..and hello to the group....My name is Shawn and i am definetely ,without a shadow of doubt an alcoholic...Thank you Avril G for bringing the message of hope......i have been sober now for 18 mos and i am just beginning to understand the Alcohol induced Fog wich i call ages 16 - 29........ i found your comments in particular quite helpful because of your understanding and growth through the program you have been able to stay on the path!!!!!!!!OUr RECOVERY is a GIFT from GOD....IN my accceptence of this miracle,I continue striving for Spiritual perfection through my relationship with him....For Today i Trust in him to run the show!! Remember meeting makers make it.....and did you hear about people who stop makin meetings??........Well it seems they don't get to find out what happens to people who stop making meetings.. THANX 4 LISTENING....


Member: Rich R, slowly recovering compulsive person
Location: Detroit
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 12:08:20

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My name is Rich and I am an alcoholic (and compulsive about other stuff too). I heard some guy recite the Promises from memory once and I was impressed. When I was about 5 years sober I was doing a lot of walking and decided to try to memorize them myself. It took awhile but I did it. Now I try to recite them every day, like a meditation. It really seems to help me and some of them are coming true in my life. Maybe someone who reads this would like to try it and see if it works for them. Thanks for reading this.


Member: Geri W
Location: Va
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 12:22:23

Comments

Geri, a very grateful alcoholic here. Hi family. Sorry for the double post - but a few comments.

Normal is only a cycle on your washing machine - don't look for it anywhere else - it isn't there.

Michelle, I'm excited that you've got 4yrs sober! Get to a meeting and make it 5.

Francis - should be 5 days by now. Time to call another AA and ask them to take you to a meeting if you don't want to walk in alone. Once you're in the doors, you'll never be alone again!

Everyone have a great 24.


Member: MaryJ
Location: Redmond
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 16:25:19

Comments

Hi,

I'm Mary and an alcoholic. The promises is a good topic, good choice Faith. I like to review the promises when I'm not at a meeting just to remind myself of what is possible. i keep a copy of them, along with the 12 steps and the 12 traditions. All of these are soothing to me especially if I am having a stressful day at work.

I also like to review the promises when I am traveling and can't get to a "live" meeting. I go through the regular routine just like I was at a meeting.

Thanks for the topic and all the previous discussion.


Member: Avril G
Location: Driffield UK
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 17:36:59

Comments

WHITNEY I will pray for you, darling. I was expelled from high school at the age of fifteen for drinking in school, disrupting classes, arguing/fighting with teachers, etc. etc. I had no idea then that there was such an illness as alcoholism, and 20some years on, I had lost virtually everything. You need not go that way, Whitney. You are blessed with knowledge of AA. Make that call, NOW. Save yourself years and years of living hell (assuming of course you live for years, not all alkies do!) My e-mail address is: avrilgoodall@driffield99.freeserve.co.uk Feel free to use it, I'd love to hear from you. SHAWN K, thanks for responding to my earlier posting, It's great to feel that I am becomung known at these meeting rooms, great to 'talk' to you all. I feel so privileged to be accepted by all of you, it is a wonderfully humbling experience. Thanks to all of you for taking the time to share with me in this way. Keep it simple.


Member: Roy S.
Location:
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 17:49:17

Comments

The promises is indeed a good topic. When things are looking tough and I wonder how I'm going to make it through the coming days, I look at the promises and can refocus. It helps to remind me of my goals and what I hope to achieve in sobriety. Thanks for letting me share.


Member: Dorothy C
Location: Arlington Hgts, Il
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 18:51:07

Comments

I"m Dorothy, grateful recovering Alcoholic this is so amazing, new computer, coincides with my fifth anniversary in the program. I know recovery is every where but it is way cool just to read the comments and know that I am never alone,, there are so many of us that are exactly the same, just the names and circumstances are different. I am so grateful to all of you. Keep coming back and Pass It On.


Member: Sam     J
Location: Tennessee
Date: 10 Apr 1999
Time: 19:38:53

Comments

Hi! I'm an alcoholic and my name is Sam. I realize that this is off the topic and I hope you will forgive me, but I just want to make a couple of comments to ovis?? in Ga. who posted on 4-4. I know exactly how you feel. I attended my first AA meeting sometime in the spring of 1965 and didn't get sober for any considerable period of time till Nov. 13, 1975. Those years were pure hell. AA tells me that there are three essentials if I am going to stay sober. Honesty, Open mindedness and willingness. I had neither of these. I had finally gotten to the point that I had given up on ever getting sober. I stayed completely away from AA for three years. I started back in October of 1975. I would go to meetings with good intentions and then stop on the way home and have a few drinks. I thought "Hell, its going to be the same old thing again". I did not believe in God, so I didn't have that help. For some unknown reason, on Nov. 13, 1975 I got honest with myself and accepted the fact that I was powerless over alcohol. That is when I became willing to open my mind just slightly. I saw people around me that were reasonably happy, and they said that they believed in God. I said my first prayer. I just asked, "If there is such a thing as a God, will you please help me?" I knew right away that I had help. The compulsion that had never once left me for over 10 years was suddenly gone. I have always felt that if it ever returns I will get drunk. I still attend AA regularly, because I can't take a chance on it. What I am trying to say is that I didn't even have to be a believer, I just had to be willing to believe and I got help. I realize now that the help was always there for me and that I was unable to accept it. The best to you. May God bless all of you. Sam


Member: John M
Location: Ventura CA
Date: 11 Apr 1999
Time: 00:48:37

Comments

My name is John and I am an alcholic. When I drank the PROMISES seemed to come true for me, thats why I drank. So when they began to come about in soberiety I was amazed that I could feel that good without booze. I like the idea that that AA does for us slowly what booze did for us quickly. The most important part for me is that God is doing for me what I could not do for myself.


Member: Bill T
Location: Ridgefield, Wa
Date: 11 Apr 1999
Time: 01:27:48

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Hey Bill T. Here I'am alcoholic: to Marcia D. of Burbank Ca. Just two things one:: you are you and don't let anyone tell you different. God as I understand him made no junk.. In my 20yrs of being sober, I have become a person that I never new. The person I thought was me, was no good as I found out. But since I have ammitted that I 'am an alcoholic. live just kept getting better. So even if you live with your folk's that's ok. As long as both party know what's going on all the time. Enjoy yourself because you earn it. One day at a time is all we got. I hope the program gives you what it has given me. A new life. Just slow down and let it come to you, and you will be a better person. Smile, it will bring a smile to someone else too. Have a great day In Service Bill T. Ridgefield, Wa


Member: Bill T
Location: Ridgefield, Wa
Date: 11 Apr 1999
Time: 01:28:29

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Hey Bill T. Here I'am alcoholic: to Marcia D. of Burbank Ca. Just two things one:: you are you and don't let anyone tell you different. God as I understand him made no junk.. In my 20yrs of being sober, I have become a person that I never new. The person I thought was me, was no good as I found out. But since I have ammitted that I 'am an alcoholic. live just kept getting better. So even if you live with your folk's that's ok. As long as both party know what's going on all the time. Enjoy yourself because you earn it. One day at a time is all we got. I hope the program gives you what it has given me. A new life. Just slow down and let it come to you, and you will be a better person. Smile, it will bring a smile to someone else too. Have a great day In Service Bill T. Ridgefield, Wa


Member: Bill T
Location: Ridgefield, Wa
Date: 11 Apr 1999
Time: 01:29:12

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Hey Bill T. Here I'am alcoholic: to Marcia D. of Burbank Ca. Just two things one:: you are you and don't let anyone tell you different. God as I understand him made no junk.. In my 20yrs of being sober, I have become a person that I never new. The person I thought was me, was no good as I found out. But since I have ammitted that I 'am an alcoholic. live just kept getting better. So even if you live with your folk's that's ok. As long as both party know what's going on all the time. Enjoy yourself because you earn it. One day at a time is all we got. I hope the program gives you what it has given me. A new life. Just slow down and let it come to you, and you will be a better person. Smile, it will bring a smile to someone else too. Have a great day In Service Bill T. Ridgefield, Wa


Member: Bonnie C - 5/30/80
Location: Seattle
Date: 11 Apr 1999
Time: 07:22:51

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Hi extended family, bonnie/alcoholic here (((ROOM-HUG))) really good topic ((faith)) have read some really inspirational posts today, thanks - the promises, when I first got here the lady who took me to my first meeting had me reading 60thru63 449thru452 and 83&84 from my first day in the program, (self-will run riot) why my life was a mess (acceptance) what I could do about it & (the promises) what would happen if I followed directions and did what the book suggests and take the suggestions of those that had what i wanted, that consistant smile most of the time, the one that says all is right with the world. I wanted what they had, my best efforts never gained me anything except heartache and disappointment so i was ready for some new ideas. mine didnt work! I had wasted so many yrs screwing up my life, I figured I'd try this deal for a few yrs and see if anything changed, anyway, i got the sponsor, i went to daily meetings, i worked the steps and at first i thought i was doing everthing all wrong cause, after the initial pink cloud, i only got brief glimpses of this internal peace, but i didnt give up, sometimes i felt so alone in a room of AA people that i had felt kinda part of the week before, i felt mentally flawed, what if i was one of those who were consitutionally incapable of being honest with myself. but i didnt give up, i wanted this thing and some of you including my sponsor kept telling me that i hadn't gotten sick overnight so i couldnt possibly get well overnight either, So i plugged on, still making incredibly stupid mistakes, which my friends and sponsor said were just learning tools, still hurting myself and others with my mouth and actions, which they said was God showing me my character defects so i could once and for all rid myself of. Oh how I wanted to believe you but I still at times was very lonely in my journey but i didnt give up. Something inside of me kept plugging away. The more 4th thru 9th steps I was doing the more of me was revealed, the more i was revealed to myself the more I understood you, the more I understood you the less fear I had of you, the less power you had over my life, the more power God had in my life. The more times I survived my own sabbotaging of my life, the more of me I gave to God to do with as He wished and the less praying I did for relationships to continue or things to happen my way. I remember praying for God to make this psychotic man love me, I truly didnt know he was psychotic until he flipped out but thank God he didnt love me when he did. Thank God for unanswered prayers, I would have screwed my life up AGAIN if He would have listened to my wishes so time passed, steps done time after time, lonliness ebbed from me little by little, self-worth eased in slowly, fear was surrendered cautiously, but everytime I thought I had *IT* it was shown to me that I had not arrived yet and there was more work to do. I did however enjoy every moment of reprieve from the pain of working on myself too, the awesome feeling in between my painful growth periods has been glorious, they are the reason I hang on. This last reprieve from that sometimes paralizing pain has lasted for 5yrs, during this time i have had some stuff hit the fan but it has no power, amazing, more proof this thing works! With the promises in place these are wonderful adventures with so many blessings attached, I'm having a ball! Life couldn't be better. the financial insecurity was my biggy, after i worked thru the codependent inventories, (of course i thought the right man was going to fix everything LOL) anyway, when my checking acct gets really low, i dont panic anymore, I just do the next indicated right thing to do and God takes care of the rest. Am on another journey soon. God has been so patient and loving with me, I just wonder what wonderful gifts await me at the end of my next adventure. Everyday is like a surprize package from God. I'm so glad I didn't give up, I could have been miserable for the rest of my life but I'm really living now. You folks didn't lie, this stuff's for real. Stay, give this program everything you can give it, for the more you give it, the faster you get it. I had a huge heap of the wreckage of my past, I truly believe I have worked thru most of it. My surrenders of today are different than they were because of simple practice. So if you think you will never get this thing because the serenity doesn't last very long, keep practicing cause it sure does get wonderful. Dear God please bless all who venture here, love and hugs, bon -- bonzoc@webtv.net