Member:
Bart D.
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
11:47:06 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Bart, and I'm an alcoholic. This is my first time in this meeting or in any chat room and it's a new experience. I thought I would be conversing with other alcoholics, real time. Let me just get my feet wet here, and I'd love to hear from other alcoholics if this is a good way to add to a recovery program.


Member:
Bill D.
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
12:37:40 AM

Comments

I'm all for this as an adjunct to physical meetings. I also see it as a place where someone too shy, too timid, or ontherwise inhibited can get an opportunity to try out AA, either as an observer or as a participant, prior to finally going to a physical meeting. While I would not recommend this as a general course of action, in exceptional instances it might be a way to get someone started.


Member:
Anna T.
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
1:15:08 AM

Comments

Hi, My name is Anna and I am an alcoholic. I also think that online meetings are a good supplement to face to face meetings, but I would not let them take their place. Last night, I was going to stay home and attend an AOL online meeting (America online) and then I was going to study, but I thought, well the physical meeting is only half hour longer than the online meeting so it won't take that much more time away from my studies, so I went and was glad that I went. I don't usually attend that meeting, but I went and saw three people I knew, one I had not seen in ages. I think too that it is important to have a home group, a meeting that one attends every week, like every Sunday. That way one can get to know others and others can get to know him/her. It helps me feel a part of having my Sunday night Big Book Study as my home group. I've been going to that meeting for 4 years and have gotten to know people, and people have gotten to know me. I am a little timid at times about sharing, but I don't feel as timid in my home group, and it's hard to share in large face to face meetings not as hard in large online meetings. I still find I do better if I keep up my physical meetings, at least 2 a week. Because of school and parental responsibilities, I can't go to a meeting every night. I am going to increase to 3 a week. Goodnight all. God Bless.


Member:
Rick W
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
1:59:06 AM

Comments

I find the weekends are the hardest but I don't have to look back very far to keep on going ahead. With the help of God,AA,and the big book I know it can be done. I now have 23 months one day at a time. Thank-You


Member:
Raincloud
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
8:10:37 AM

Comments

Hi! :D My name is Raincloud and I am an alcoholic. I read last weeks Coffee Pot and noticed a lot of questions that could be answered by AA literature. An unofficial AA site is http://www.twisted-serpent.com

It has a dictionary which is really helpful for beginners to understand all the phrases we use in AA. It also has a lot of literature, including a lot of conference approved literature, which is all I'm going to refer to here. Here are some listed under AA members that I think are particularly useful and/or relate to stuff posted last week:

Alcoholics Anonymous (first 164 pages) aka Big Book

Living Sober

Questions and Answers on Sponsorship

Suggestions for Leading Beginner's Meetings - see especially #1 How to Stay Away From One Drink One Day at a Time

The AA Member - Medications and Other Drugs - This is useful for everyone, but may be especially helpful to those of us with dual diagnosis. Mine is depression, just like Bill W., a founder of AA.

You can't print this stuff because it is copyrighted, but it sure helps to be able to read it right away instead of searching for it or ordering it from New York.

Hope this helps. :D


Member:
Tina J.
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
8:55:19 AM

Comments

Message for Kelle C: Please send me your email address - I got the text of your message but not the entire email address (weird huh?). Will send my reply ASAP.

Thanks, Tina J. on Guam


Member:
Judy K in Maine
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
5:51:54 PM

Comments

Isn't this an amazing WWWebsite? I just clicked on "pass the hat." Check it out for yourself -- seems that contributions aren't coming in as hoped for.

I'd hate to see this close -- so I'm going for my checkbook and an envelope right now (if I can only find a stamp!)


Member:
Russ A
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
9:37:19 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Russ and I am an alcoholic. Love this website, Have a great day!


Member:
Kay H.
Date:
11/23/97
Time:
11:28:56 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Kay and I am an alcholic from Canada. I have been on this site before and enjoy hearing from you all. This is almost as good as going to a live meeting. Keep it coming. wishing all a happy 24.


Member:
Charles S.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
12:47:07 AM

Comments

This is a very goos ideal, hope it stays in effect. I have been sober going on 6years and don't attend meetings anymore because of all the gossip and backstabbing that goes on. I'm to timit to speack up at meetings, and I have trust Issues during my recovery I've been faced with issues that would have sent a lot of pepole back,out but somehow my higher power has seen fit to spare me that the odds of my making it through this life long term without suffering effects early in my life from these conditions is narrow. I have a lot of fears about my future and doubts. I could not see myself being this honest in a physical meeting. Yet without laying out the whole situation I do feel better. Thanks


Member:
Kris M.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
3:29:31 AM

Comments

Hello all! This is a first for me. I'm an addict. I am an active addict so...this could be really great for me because meetings are really difficult for me right now. I've been around for quite sometime now and I have been clean for a little time here and there. However, I have been on a run now for almost two years without more than a day or two break. I've started going to meetings again because I know that that is what I have to do. This I think will be extremely helpful for me with my idle mind and all. I say I am an addict because I am! However, I noticed that this as AA so for all those "old-timers"...alcohol kicks my ass just like the rest of it. No doubt, I am an alcoholic. Now I shall see what happens...


Member:
Judi N.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
10:25:02 AM

Comments

Good morning everyone. My name is Judi and i am an alcoholic from Phoenix. This web thing is new to me and i find it very excitiing. I also have a hard time really sharing in a meeting because of the trust issues so I try to keep my stuff very general but when I am one on one I have better luck. Kris...I am an "old timer" sort of and I believe that what I have is an addictive personality. I become addicted to whatever is out there, fron coffee to H. In our big book, in the story "Dr Bob's Nightmare you will find Dr. Bob was using and abusing drugs also. I was in and out of this program since 1974 and it took me 8 years to get back (nearly dead!!). Someone once told me "we don't shoot our wounded" Thank God. Have a great day!!


Member:
Debra R
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
12:12:59 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Debra and I'm an alcholic. I made it through another weekend. They seem to be the hardist. By Sunday I was trying to talk myself into the idea that I'm not one. It's been 17 days of sobriety. Does anyone else out there have this problem.


Member:
PAT L KANSAS CITY
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
12:29:16 PM

Comments

Hello, Im Pat an alcoholic and addict from Kansas City Mo. I went to a meeting today. What I learned is there are good meetings and bad, just like everything else in this world. The folks were mostly oldtimers.I have a delema and they all laughed.I tried to tell myself they were laughing with me not at me,but they were definitely laughing at me.One person says take care of the wife,kid etc.. that they have been putting up with my crap long enough. My sponsor says go to the meetings and straighten me 1st, then I can help them.Sounds like an Ann Landers question. Well I did what the wife said,and took care of the kid, didnt go to meetings all weekend. I think I should do whatever it takes to keep me from booze. Luckly, I didnt drink, I wrote a small book in here, and today resumed going to the meetings. Thanks to everyone here, and God. Today Im sober. When I go to the meeting later today, Im gonna not say a word. Know one knows how stupid you are until ya open your mouth. Today, I choose to listen and hopefully learn. DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member:
Cherise D.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
12:42:28 PM

Comments

Debra, Just hang in there and don't drink. If you have to do it one hour at a time that's ok too. That's what I had to do in the beginning. Go to live meetings and get phone numbers and use them. It really helped me to talk to other people who have been throught the same feelings. Your in my prayers.


Member:
Judy K in Maine
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
2:18:45 PM

Comments

Hi, Debra -- I love the old slogan "if you fail to plan, you plan to fail" and I think it means I need a schedule of events, meetings, phone calls, lunches, coffees (you name it) connected with sober people -- and the weekends will fly by. Guaranteed!


Member:
Tim G.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
3:36:41 PM

Comments

Debra

Don't let the booze tell you it wasn't so bad, it SUCKED, and that's why your here. Remember the misery and you won't have to live it.


Member:
JR
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
4:44:25 PM

Comments

Hi, everyone! I`m JR a very grateful recovering alcoholic here in Bowling Green, Oh. I just wanted to share with you all a greeting of thanks for being there for people like me who know were just sick people trying to get better, not bad people trying to be good Thanks


Member:
Rita M
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
5:55:50 PM

Comments

Hi everyone......

Rita here, an alcoholic who has most gratefully celebrated five years on the 22nd of this month, yep, just the other day!

Weekends were extremely difficult for me when I first came into the program......so were Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays..... LOL.....BUT, the easiest days by far were the days that I attended real "live" meetings! Whether I spoke or sat on my hands......for at least an hour, I was "safe" and I was not thinking about "taking a drink!"....and lo and behold, on weekends, I could even go to more than one meeting a day!

It works.......for those that are struggling....."we had to let go of old ideas, absolutely"......One thing I discovered was that AA folks did not lie to me and that if I tried it "their" way, I just might stay sober and clean and find some "happiness" (even) in life....that was a true by-product of sobriety.......

HAPPY TURKEY DAY!!!!!


Member:
Claire from Mass
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
7:42:37 PM

Comments

Hi all! My name is Claire and I am an alcoholic.Kris who shared a few days ago reminded me of my last few years of drinking. I remember that I wanted the hell to end but I didn't know how. I now know that the key ingredient is that I wanted it a change, and at the right moment I was given the gift of desperation and I surrendered. Keep wanting what you want Kris and the miracle will happen. It did for me 8 years ago. Thanks for the chat everyone. Happy holiday!


Member:
Group Treasurer
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
8:39:21 PM

Comments

Hello, my name is Perry and I'm an alcoholic: And it is time to "Pass the Basket"..

Every A.A. group ought to be fully self-suppoting, declining outside conributions.( Our Tradition Seven)

May I suggest that you contribute $2 for each year sober , so that this group can meet it's expenses. Please see the " Pass the Hat" section of this web site to see where to mail to.

Thanks for a great meeting!


Member:
Tina J.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
9:37:57 PM

Comments

Hi, my name is Tina J. from Guam. Thanks for the reminder, Perry! It's pretty easy (especially this time of year) to get caught up in all the holiday preparations and forget about supporting that which helps us be ***able*** to ***do*** those preparations!

My check is in the mail today!

Best regards and joyous holidays to everyone!


Member:
Jenna L.
Date:
11/24/97
Time:
11:19:24 PM

Comments

Hello everyone I'am Jenna an alcoholic and addict First;this A.A. on line is wonderful when I can't or don't go to a meeting I go on line it does help me to talk it's sometimes hard for me to share at the meetings I get real nervous sometimes I feel I have something to say that might be important but afraid to raise that hand or have someone look at me with discontentment look so I keep it down.. Second;To Debra,I have 37 days I know how the weekends are,that's when I did the most,but for me I go to meetings, call my sponser, talk to other people in the program and work the steps and ask my higher power for the help,and say that good old prayer THE SERENITY PRAYER. Debra, good luck,believe in yourself..You can do it don't be afraid to ask for the help..


Member:
Rich G. in WA
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
3:12:18 AM

Comments

Judy K. in Maine> No, out doing service work, actually living a 9th step with my Mom. She's reaching in to her final days. I miss the laughs we had on friday nights with you, Jeannie K. ( or M. or T. ), Chase S. Bruce B., Bob C., Will W., Herb R., Helmi T., there were many more, but due to space... Much Love, Judy, all the best

2 EVERYONE ELSE:

HAVE A HAPPY BIRD DAY and please stay sober!!!


Member:
LorraineS
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
7:48:56 AM

Comments

Hi folks, just need to share with you the gratitude I feel today for being a part of this fellowhip called AA.

With the support that we give each other, we can make it through another 24 hours. For those of us who sometimes forget, this is a "WE" program and we need each other everyday. If you ever have any doubt about that, READ THE FIRST THREE WORDS ON PAGE 112 OF THE BIG BOOK.

A special thanks to Pat for the kind words of support. Not just maybe... you do help me too!

To all of you, may you enjoy another sober 24 hours.


Member:
Pat L Kansas City
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
11:50:10 AM

Comments

HI, Im Pat and Im an alcoholic and ex druggy. I havent taken the time to read all of the "sharing" but did read Debra's. I am also new to AA. Thanksgiving (Thursday)will be 3 weeks. This program works if ya really wanna quit drinkin. Ya pick up bits and pieces of what people say and apply them to your life and make it work. Actually I think of it as 2 lives, the drunk & the sober. The sober is NEW TERRITORY. I am rebuilding my way of life. Things I did when I was drinking, I change and do what AA says. Its a whole new life. I found some techniques for thinking that may help. please email me, it would be to long for here.

With the holidays coming, we lose alot of members. Keep phone #s of other alcoholics..USE THEM I have a problem with it.PRIDE JUST DO IT Forgive yourself.. is a big one for me also. Got to run, have a happy turkey day, keep comin back, it works if ya work it. special thanks to Lorraine (true angel) thanks for the response Anna. It helped DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM Pat L


Member:
Debra
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
1:47:34 PM

Comments

Hi Debra here. Thanks everyone for the advice. Its 18 days now and I'm still sober and grateful for that. When do the cravings and constant thinking about drinking stop?


Member:
Cherise D.
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
7:58:45 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Cherise and I'm a Grateful Alcoholic. This has been a real hard day for me. Today my divorce became final (yeah!). He didn't show up for court and I was relieved. Except he did show up at my home an hour afterwards. Unfortunately he does not have a desire to get help, and his attitudes are horrible. He came threatening me about our 3 year old daughter who he hasn't seen in over a year. He wants to see her, and said he'll see me in court. It really hurts me that he's trying to hurt me or get back at me by using our daughter. When I said she's upstairs he said "I have things to do I have to be somewhere!" and he left. I have to say I cried at first,(knowing that he really doesn't care about her) feeling so so powerless, actually projecting about what could happen next, but decided to finally give it to God. I have a wonderful life now and a great man who's been a great father to my daughter for almost 2 years, and mostly I'm sober and don't have to continue the life that my EX- husband is still in. Boy it keeps it real clear where I came from and how Grateful I am for where I am today. Thanks for letting me vent, and have a great THANKSgiving. Lots of love to all!


Member:
Rich S.
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
8:25:21 PM

Comments

My name is rich s.and I'm a real alcoholic. Can anyone lead me to a real time AA meeting? ON THE NET Please reply rseverson@amertech.net


Member:
Mary H.
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
9:10:09 PM

Comments

My name is Mary and I am a homebound member of AA. i am glad to know now there is another way to have a meeting.


Member:
Greg W.
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
10:13:34 PM

Comments

I'm Greg and I'm an alcoholic. This is the first time I've actually posted anything to an on-line meeting. (Here and the topic meeting.) I've moved around many times in my 9-1/2 years of sobriety, and have recently moved again...to Northern California...Sacramento Area. So anyone from the Sacto area, drop me an e-mail and say hello...and tell me where your favorite "live" meeting is. Thanks a lot, and keep on trudging!


Member:
Greg W.
Date:
11/25/97
Time:
10:15:52 PM

Comments

It's Greg again...from Sacramento. My e-mail address is gwick@lanset.com.


Member:
piers h
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
3:37:12 AM

Comments

i'm piers and an alcoholic.I think this is a great idea as anything i do that doesn,t invllve me in picking up a glass is a bonus my email is oo251313@roehampton.ac.uk i,m surrounded by drinkers and users at the moment so any contact would be helpful


Member:
joe M.
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
6:13:56 AM

Comments

Debra R. More power to you...I have never made it 18days. I like this column already.....this is my first time to post my name to the world. By myself , I have a difficult time with this thing I guess..I am one step ahead just knowing & admitting it to myself.


Member:
Raincloud
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
7:18:59 AM

Comments

Hi. It's Raincloud, and I'm still an alcoholic. Possible IRC info: http://www.netwizards.net/recovery/aa/irc.html

Also, don't forget the newsgroup alt.recovery.aa.

Iv'e got a headache, or I'd write more.

Keep coming back!


Member:
Rita M
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
7:33:33 AM

Comments

Hi all.......Rita an alcoholic from Indy here.......

CHERISE.......

my heart wept for you and your recent divorce..... had four children when I came into AA and had lost them for some period of time until I got sober!

These are difficult times for you but you are on the right track with your sobriety. At least your daughter will never have to know a "drunken" mother! And remember, as I was told so many many times, when I first entered the doors of AA........You Never Have to Be Alone Again! Although many many years have passed since my divorce from the father of my children.......today, we are actually "friendly" and can discuss matters concerning our "now-adult" kids!

It does get better!


Member:
Catherine L.
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
2:48:04 PM

Comments

Hi everyone. I was thinking this morning about gratitude. This is a difficult time a year for me anyway, and this year is especially hard. I would really appreciate some feedback about changing sponsor's. I told my sponsor that it is time that I search for a new one, but I can't help feeling bad about it. I know it was the right thing for me to do, so why do I feel bad about it? Why do I feel bad about something that I know is growth for me? I having a hard time with this. To everyone that is new to AA, welcome. To Rich S., look in the phone book, call a hospital, call a treatment center. I guess I'm thinking about how I went to any lengths to drink and drug. I can go to any lengths to find a meeting also. Good Luck. Piers - please just don't drink and go to meetings. Taking it One Day At A Time....


Member:
Kay H.
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
6:25:48 PM

Comments

hi kay from canada. here, nice to hear from you all I'v been sober for a few 24's and it's a great life. I ENJOY READING THIS SITE VERY MUCH so keep it comin' All you good people in the united states have a great thanks giving and enjoy you turkey sober' happy 24 to all of you out there;


Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
6:50:49 PM

Comments

To Catherine L. As you know, I have just changed sponsors too although it wasn't my idea. I have ended up in such a better sponsor/sponsee relationship! I was feeling so low at first about it, but I feel my HP was guiding me, I just didn't know where at first. Have faith that you will find someone new that will suit you better. A sponsor who is at odds with everything you do rather than just being supportive isn't good for you, just getting yourself 'beat up' all the time.

Joe M. and piers, love and support being wished your way! One day at a time, sometimes one hour at a time, whatever works. Love to all and have a happy Thanksgiving!


Member:
Tim V in the Poconos
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
9:14:26 PM

Comments

Wow am I grateful! We have an awesome HP to give us all this!


Member:
DEBBIE P.
Date:
11/26/97
Time:
11:39:07 PM

Comments

MY NAME IS DEBBIE P. AND I AM A GRATEFUL RECOVERING ALCHOLIC. THROUGH GOD'S GRACE AND YOU PEOPLE I AM HERE, AND SOBER TODAY. HOLIDAYS ARE SO MUCH MORE FUN SOBER. MY ATTITUDE HAS CHANGED SO MUCH OVER THE YEARS. I SEE PEOPLE, PLACES, AND THINGS SO MUCH CLEARER TODAY. I HAVE LEARNED THROUGH THIS PROGRAM I HAVE A CHOICE TODAY. AND DECISION FEELS SO GOOD. I WISH EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY THANKSGIVING.


Member:
Raincloud
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
5:39:55 AM

Comments

Hi. It's Raincloud, and I'm still an alcoholic. Thanks to all who appreciated the candle exercise. I'm grateful to know the method and to be able to pass it along. I sent the friend an email thanking him again.

Anna T. - I'm sorry to hear of the loss of your sister. I, too, lost my father during the holidays, and another year my niece. Seems like I've had a loss every year for 8 years during the holidays. We've lost many pets at this time - they are babies to us as we have no children. This year we are facing unemployment.

Mourning is a natural part of life. It seems harder, though, when it appears everyone around you is having a blast celebrating the holidays. EXPECTATIONS is something we alcoholics have to be careful about. AA would have us not have any. I'm not that perfect; I just try to be aware of them and keep them realistic. When they don't get met we are disappointed and can get resentful. Even civilians get down this time of year due to unrealistic expectations.

The holidays are tricky times for everyone, but especially alcoholics. Temptation is everywhere. Thank God for AA. I don't have to sit on my pity pot at home alone. I also don't have to go to places serving alcohol - I'm going to an AA potluck today. Don't isolate. Fortunately, my family is far away, but many still live in a sick family and all that stuff comes up at this time of the year.

I want to share a little of my experience to those of you thinking you're suffering from terminal uniqueness. It just happens that I came into AA through the back door of a 12 Step Christian program led by a priest who knew Ed Shumaker of the Oxford Group that AA borrowed the spiritual foundation of the program from.

I had a pretty rotten childhood. My BIGGEST GRATITUDE in my life is for my grandparents whom I was forunate enough to live with for 3 years and who loved me like a rock. My grandmother introduced me to her church. I subsequently had 2 spiritual experiences. My grandmother died unexpectedly right before my confirmation. Her dying word to my grandfather were to take care of me. My family couldn't handle it - I didn't get to be confirmed and the church attendance tapered off to nothing.

As a teen, I had the usual doubts. Some really bad stuff happened. Although I logically declared I didn't believe anymore, I still prayed. I was scared of God, so I prayed via my grandmother. God can handle your anger. I ranted and raved at God. I thought I caused the bad stuff and that God had allowed it to happen to me. Now I see that people chose to commit these evil acts of their own free will and that God couldn't have prevented them.

I found the books _When Bad Things Happen to Good People_ by Harold Kusher and _The Road Less Traveled_ by S. Scott Peck very helpful to my recovery.

I spent 8 years in an abusive marriage. Three "professional" counselors denied that I was battered. I kept praying to God to help me change to save my marriage. I didn't believe in divorce. The night my ex announced he wanted a divorce as he refused to take the promised batterer's treatment program and he was in love with another woman, I ended up in the mental ward. I had been stupid enough to drink on top of my mental illness. At the hospital I talked casually with a priest. I asked how one finds a church - I was worried about the dogma. He said that if I felt comfortable in a church, then the beliefs would probably fit me.

The night my ex assaulted me for the last time, I had the most profound spiritual experience in my life. God told me that he wanted me to lead a batter free life and that he wanted me in a 12 step program. I was familiar with AA and had read the Big Book, but my logical mind wanted proof and I knew my biggest problem was my mental illness.

I met a person that led me to a special church. In addition to the 12 Step program there, they said my marriage had ended when the abuse began. They said 3 reasons for a divorce were abuse, addiction and adultery. I can't begin to tell you all the miracles that happened in my life then. I miss that church. I joined a very dysfunctional church when I moved that I had to quit.

Sometimes I can feel God's presence. Other times I can't. God will talk to me in his own time. God relentlessly pursues us - it is us that chose not to hear. Other times when I'm too "busy" to hear him, I will have a profound dream or someone will come along my path.

The way AA describes meditation - saying a prayer and reflection on it - is called contemplation in some circles. It is generally the easiest. My favorite way is the heavy duty stuff because I get the most from it. It isn't for everyone and not for me all the time. There are many ways to meditate - you will find what is right for you.

Yes, AA says to only ask to know for God's will for you and the power to carry that out. I try to do that, but I say other prayers, too. I met a woman who said she was taught that the Holy Spirit intercedes on our behalf to God with our prayers and "edits" them to make them more proper. I like that idea.

When I was a little girl my grandmother told me when my legs hurt it was growning pains. Now when I have pain I comfort myself with that thought. I also give myself mental shots of novacaine and ask God for relief.

My conception of God changed over time. Remember, growth and change are uncomfortable and even painful, but if you're not living and growing you are dying.

Maybe your sponsor has taught you all sie can and it's time for a new teacher. I like the Zulu saying "When the student is ready, the teacher appears".

You're in my prayers. Have a happy and grateful Thanksgiving.


Member:
John C.
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
7:47:55 AM

Comments

HI.. I am John and an alcoholic. Just broughtnit all out into the open a few days ago and it feels good to not hide it all the time. Thanks for an uplifting share, Raincloud. Great for me as a newbie.

Happy Turkey day to all.


Member:
LorraineS
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
8:13:30 AM

Comments

Happy Thanksgiving to all of our American Friends from Canada.

Raincloud, your message is a spiritual one and you have no idea how much I needed to hear it today. I believe in a Higher Power and I choose to call him God. I believe that today, he brought you and your wonderful message to this chat area to help us. You certainly helped me... thank you.

John C. welcome to AA, keep coming back.


Member:
Vinny S.
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
9:40:10 AM

Comments

Hi,I'm Vinny, a recovering alcoholic. Thanks to the "program" I,m enjoying my first sober Thank- sgiving in a long while! Between God and the tables, I am finally convinced there are really miricles! Thank You,stay sober today, and happy Thanksgiving!


Member:
Joe M philly
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
9:44:23 AM

Comments

Raincloud..thankyou for the endorsement. JOHN C. Tell me a little about what you are doing formally to deal with this....I have not done the best on my own


Member:
annie b
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
11:19:43 AM

Comments

hi everyone i'm annie b and i'm an alcoholic this is my first sober holiday and ive been sitting on the pity pot for awhile since i am working today thats okay for me though because since ive started this program my family pretty much doesn't want me around i know it will be awhile before they trust me again but in gods time it will happen. i am grateful for a lot of things this year and i keep repeating them to myself today to avoid the pity pot. i'm just glad god decided to give me mercy rather than justice. Peace be with you all and let us pray for the still suffering alcoholic and addict til they find what we have found be grateful.


Member:
Sandra Y.
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
3:46:09 PM

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Hi I'm Sandra from Canada. I'm a very happy member of Al-Anon and greatful for the support and love in getting through the problems that a loved one's drinking problem has caused myself and my family. Keep up the good work and keep coming back!!!!


Member:
Michael L
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
6:48:29 PM

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Hi! I'm Michael. With the grace of God, today I have 22 days of sobriety.

You know, I thought holidays would be hard, but today was a good day. It was the first Thanksgiving in 10 years that I attended sober.

I wonder if there are many others new to recovery to felt the same way I did today? The power of prayer sure is powerful!!

My thought for today.... I am deeply grateful that God led me to AA!


Member:
ron w
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
8:06:19 PM

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hi my name is ron and im an alcoholic this is my third sober thanksgiving and if it wasnt for the grace of god and the program i wouldnt be telling you this! one day at a time!


Member:
PAT L KANSAS CITY
Date:
11/27/97
Time:
8:15:59 PM

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HI,Im Pat L, Im an alcoholic and exdruggy. Thanks to everyone and God. My wife and I cooked thanksgiving dinner for our community, at our church. Started at 2am and finished the cleanup at 4pm today. One of the things I have learned so far (22 days sober)is not to let yourself get too tired. Well,I'm pooped. I needed to know that there was someone here on a holiday. Extremely Grateful for everyone here. Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving. CURIOUS ABOUT LORRAINE, WHAT DO THEY DO IN CANADA? Anyway, Feeling good,tired and glad you're here. DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM PAT L IN KANSAS CITY


Member:
Jim m
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
11:37:06 AM

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Hi everyone my name is Jim, and I'm so happy to be online with the winners of the world. I'm in my 6th. month and never been better. thanks to you and God for being there for me.

God Bless Jim M


Member:
josie t.
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
11:52:54 AM

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hi i'm josie a grateful member of alanon. pat from kansas what did you mean by what do we do in canada? we have great fun no snow ha! ha! i'm also from canada, we have great alanon & aa meetings here. keep cybering!!!!


Member:
Diane R. in MA
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
12:17:28 PM

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Hi, I'm Diane and a very grateful recovering alcoholic. I tried to send a message last night but it came up as an error. Raincloud I tried the irc you gave us for other AA sites. It appeared that I was getting into IRC but that was as far as I got. Do I need a special disk? I'm new on the computer so I don't know very much at all.

I want to thank you for sharing your experience, strength and hope with us. AA is a spritual program and I work on that on a dily basis. Prayer and medication are a big part of my recovery. For me, prayer is talking to God and meditation is listening to other people because God does work through people. I don't ever want to forget where I came from and I do remember my last drunk even after 10 years. I know I only have today. I ask God each morning to keep the obsession and the drink away. Each night I thank him for another day of sobriety. Well, I'll see if I can get this through now. Thank you all for sharing. Although this site is a wonderful medium, it still does not take the place of a physical meeting. I'm grateful this is here for me.


Member:
joe M Philly
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
9:00:00 PM

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Trying again ... been 24 hours.....


Member:
Anna T.
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
10:08:09 PM

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Hi I'm Anna, and I'm an alcoholic. I wanted to suggest that if you have a bad experience with one AA group, try another one, try another meeting. Not all of AA is full of backstabbers and gosssipers. I had a sponsor who didn't always keep confidences, things would get back to me. I fired her for that and other things. I went two years without a sponsor , but I did get one and i find she is a very trustworth person. There are some meetings I have been to and wouldn't go to again, but there are others I enjoy. Thanks Raincloud for your feedback. Goodnight all.


Member:
Judy K in Maine
Date:
11/28/97
Time:
10:11:16 PM

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Rich G -- The name "Helmi" made me smile! Ask the secrtary for my email -- I'd like to stay in touch.

Tim V -- please email me -- I've lost ALL addresses when I had to erase my netscape.

Joe M in Philly -- please get to an AA meeting and get a temporary sponsor -- you'll be surprised how much love and support you'll find -- and it works! Good luck! It's one day at a time for all of us


Member:
Dennis R.
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
12:06:24 AM

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Hi, I'm Dennis and alcoholic. I have not been actively going to meetings for the last two years. Only sporadic. This was not the case in my first 13 years of sobriety, only the last two. The reason for this is that I had an AA relationship that broke up with someone who had a high profile in the fellowship locally and I did not feel that I had the support so I have just tended to stay close to certain AA friends and focus on work. This has been OK I have not come close to drinking but I do miss more fellowship. I guess that I have some resentment over that situation and also that I was sponsoring a fellow and after a year of that I really felt strung out emotionall and used. This was my fault. But I have really gotten tired of the alcoholics self centeredness and selfishness. Sometimes that alcoholic personality is too much for me, including myself. But I have felt that I needed to keep a lower profile for a while. I know that the resentment is not good. I need to be closer to GOD and to make more meetings. I have been going to alanon and that helps a little. I wish this resentment with alcoholics in general would subside. If anyone out ther has had this experience I would appreciate any sharing. I want myself and you to stay sober and I would be helpful in any way that I feel OK with. I have to be careful because I am sometime very co-dependent. Basically I just feel out of the AA loop at fifteen years sober. I appreciate this opportunity to share. dnr@Connectnet.com


Member:
PAT L KANSAS CITY -PHILLY
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
2:06:53 AM

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HI,IM PAT L KANSAS CITY

JOE M IN PHILLY !!!! EMAIL MY SILLY BUTT, I GOT BETTER AA CONNECTIONS IN YOUR AREA THAN I DO MINE. IM FROM DELAWARE,AT LEAST THATS WHERE I GRADUATED. YA GOT 24 HRS...AGAIN,GREAT Now lets talk the real thing... take a few minutes and think, what made ya go out or make ya want that drink? Here is what happened to me. I was working around the house, took a short break and normally on a short break, I would have a short drink. CHANGE YOU THINKIN THATS OLD CRAP Drink something sweet or have a v8 if youre the bloody mary type.

Everything you used to do, NOW DO IT DIFFERENT Im new as well and this is what is helpin me I take a different route to where ever it is Im going. I will stop for no reason to see if there is anything different that I never saw before. whether it is a bush,tree,car,house(painted). Look for something strange or different.

From What I know (close to nothing)is that it isnt just AA, its the PROGRAM. Once the urge of drinkin goes away, which is rare for me, thats when ya know the life style must change. When you keep the same life style, it triggers old ways. In my case,old ways is not sober. Its spooky, new territory. Be positive and jump at the option for the ADVENTURE. Its a new HIGH altogether.

Get a sponsor...or call my brother in Delaware. He is much better at this than me. It is his influence that got me here. Consider the spiritual stuff. Not necessarily God,Jesus, but maybe a higher power. Create your own power! But believe it and trust it. My power, I choose, is God. Once you give up and say THIS SUCKS,PLEASE HELP ME NOT TO DRINK TODAY be sincere, it will amaze ya. Sounds like some idiot trying to have religion. GUESS WHAT I havent missed a day of church in 9 1/2 yrs. Until I made the physical effort, on my own,not in church, but beside my bed. Did I see the difference it actually makes. For a while I thought I had 2 Gods. In time I figured out, its the same God, it is just the way I was serving him or him serving me. Sound bad? Keep drinkin and you will have to look up, to see bad. There are all sorts of caring people here,loveing people. You are loved ! email me, call my brother Keep coming back, Pat DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member:
PAT L KANSAS CITY
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
2:34:40 AM

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Sorry Its me again Pat L Kansas City Whats the big deal about giving out email adx? Is it because Im a tech and have no fear? Sure we are all alkies,could send a virus but am I missing something here. Maybe get TOO MUCH EMAIL? Being sober, hell I read the junk snail mail anymore. Love to all, remember 24hrs at a time, in my case its 30 minutes, but it will get better! DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member:
GinC
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
3:21:48 AM

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Hi, I'm G., addictive, alanon, AND mentally ill.I am gratefull this day for this days sobriety.I am grateful,too for this site.The mental illness brings me a great deal of difficulty interacting with the world in general and human beings in particular,and so am very grateful to God and to all of you,also to other online support groups.Now I need not be alone in my problems,alchahol, drug,health, or mental.God bless and keep you all........G


Member:
joem phill
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
8:31:59 AM

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Pat K. -Kansas city Thank you for your support, I am breaking into this gradually. I have always had extremely strong will power. I put down the smokes cold turkey 2 years ago! I have called & got the schedule but never made it to an aa meeting. I quit smoking when I was out of my element. So I absolutely agree , changing patterns is necessary. Funny you went to U.D. as did I for a time. Recently I have been regularly attending a new church in which I find awesome strength & comfort. The variables are coming together. I am not one who is afraid to ask for help or guidance. Keep in touch! I am using someone elses compuserve e-mail. Does anyone know if on compuserve they offer multiple family e-mail addresses like ao; or prodigy?


Member:
Steve A.
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
7:58:42 PM

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I'm Steve and I'm an alcoholic. I am pretty new to the P.C. stuff but I've been around AA for about 6 years. My home group has definitely become my family, as has ALL of AA! I had 60 days on the 24th of this month. I would have had a year on the 4th, but I found out how dangerous RESENTMENTS and RESTING ON MY LAURELS really are. I am very grateful that I was able to make it back.I would'nt have had the 10 monts I did have if I hadn't been taken through the book and SHOWN how the steps are to be worked. This time around I'm going to trust God a lot more than I had, because I know he can run my unmanagable life and i know I can't!


Member:
Terry K.
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
8:03:11 PM

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Hi . My name is Terry and I'm an alcholic. This is the first time to this site. I didn't read all the comments, but Debbie's seems to have hit home for alot of us. Keep the memory green! I Try not to forget where I came from, so today I don't have to go back. Honestly I don't know if I would have got sober if this format was around when I came into the Fellowship. I still need to go to meetings face to face. I still need a sponsor, and share with others. This would have been to easy to hid out. But it's a beginning for willness and that's all you need today. Good luck! One day at a time. Thank you all for sharing.


Member:
Kathy K
Date:
11/29/97
Time:
8:54:45 PM

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Hi! I am an alcoholic, my name is Kathy. I am 50 days sober and this is my first time on-line. I am supose to be starting my 4th step this weekend, per my sponsor. I am not sure why I am procrastinating, but I am. I really don't want to dredge up all those feelings. I know AA says that if I don't I am as good as drunk. I believe that too, but am still dragging my feet. I am not sure what I am afraid of, but I guess I will find out. Anyone out there that has just finished their 4th & 5th step? Any words of encouragement?