Member:
Tim G.
Date:
11/15/97
Time:
11:56:57 PM

Comments

Heard a good one at a meeting the other day:

AA is a program of suggestion.

The ones you take are free. The ones you don’t, you
have to pay for.



Member:
Mike G
Date:
11/16/97
Time:
11:21:54 AM

Comments

My name is Mike and I am an alcoholic that has only
been sober for 15 days. I really want to quit. Sunday is
hard for me but I think that I am going to make it till
Monday. What do normal people do on the weekend?
This is the first time I have not been drunk on Sunday
for six years. I would really like someone to talk to, is
there anyone out there?



Member:
Cherise D.
Date:
11/16/97
Time:
12:39:42 PM

Comments

Hi Mike and Welcome! One of the things that helped
me was not thinking of any day differently. Yes the
weekends were a big party time, but if I made every
day the same it made the weekends alot easier. Also
just stay in today. Hang in their one hour at a time if
you have to that's what I had to do, and try to fill spare
time with live meetings if possible. I went to 5
meetings a day in the first 4 months of my sobriety.
Get phone numbers and use them and I am glad you
are here! Thanks for sharing and have a great sober
day!!!!



Member:
Melissa and Bucky
Date:
11/16/97
Time:
3:10:02 PM

Comments

Mike. Hang in there. Reading AA literature and
praying helped me during those first days when no
meeting was available. On weekends I kept busy with
exercising (walks) and kept candy handy for cravings. I
had to take it one minute at a time. Getting to
meetings early and making connections really helped.
The people I met in meetings really helped me develop
new activites and interests to fill in those weekends.



Member:
Rick R.
Date:
11/16/97
Time:
5:43:08 PM

Comments

Hi Mike. Those first days are hard but you are already
changing. You asked for help instead of drinking.
Meetings, reading the Big Book, and having phone
numbers of AA's all helped. Try not to think about
Monday just get through today. One Day at a time.



Member:
Linda L
Date:
11/16/97
Time:
7:01:52 PM

Comments

Hi my name is Linda L, I am new at this kind of thing
and new at trying to be sober. I am even new at the
ideal of me being a alcoholic. As a matter of fact I am
still fighting back and forth on my thoughts. I haven't
accepted it even though I know in my heart it is true.
My husband was in recovery sober for 9 years, I never
drank neither untill two years ago. I found out I was
losing my mom to Alzhemier and she is in her final
stage. She is dying now in Forida. I know I have
escaped to drinking for I am not coping well with this.
I struggle now cause not only do I have work a
program to stop drinking my husband relapsed 2 years
ago also. Its harder to keep a program for this when its
a couple. I understand when you talk about the
weekends. Cause I can do well till then. I struggle and
work hard on my program and it falls threw at that
time. I hope I am doing this right on this box for I
think it said to just keep typing. We will see. I was in
alanon for 9 years, and understand about how the
program works for that but do not know how I am
going to not drink and work a program. I need
guidance and a sponcer of aa. thanks for listening, and
I will be glad to get to know you all. Linda



Member:
Pete396
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
2:53:36 AM

Comments

Good morning all - I'm Pete, alcoholic. A funny thing
happened today and I would welcome any input on the
matter. I will surely talk to my sponsor about it at my
noon meeting. I've been sober a year+ and while
returning a phone call from a message on my machine
I dialed up my old pub. It kinda scared me a little. I
just said "sorry, I dialed wrong". The number isn't
even close to the one I was supposed to call. I'm still
safe and sober but the commitee is trying to get back
in session. I guess I better retrace my STEPS. Anybody
"been there - done that"? I'm grateful that I have this
fellowship to help me with confusing things like this.
Sober wishes to all for another day of sobriety.



Member:
Tina J.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
6:40:09 AM

Comments

Hi all - Tina J., alcoholic on Guam here.

Mike G - please don't be offended, but your message
made me laugh...I had asked the exact same thing
when I was ready to quit drinking! My friend (who had
been in recovery for 3 years) told me that now he goes
bowling! Yes, bowling. I thought that was really
weird, but, well, whatever works, right?

Having been sober myself for 4 1/2 years now I can
truly understand where my friend was coming from!
Bowling is pretty OK, but I prefer surfing the web or
doing craft projects...if fact, I'd forgotten how creative
I really was!

Like everyone else here suggests, keep going to
meetings, get a sponsor, go to meetings, hang with
others in recovery.....and, after a while, you'll discover
there's all kinds of stuff to do that's a heck of a lot
more fun (and easier) when you're sober!

I'm still amazed....



Member:
Mike G
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
7:25:40 AM

Comments

Well, it is Monday and I made it through the weekend.
Thanks to Cherise, Melissa and Bucky, Rick and Tina
for responding to my message. I really appreciate that
there are people who can help me with this problem. I
hope that when I get this under control I can help
someone in return. Thanks again and I am sure you
will be hearing from me again.



Member:
Eric E
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
7:35:07 AM

Comments

Hello Everyone, Eric E, alcoholic. I understand about
weekends mike g. i have been sober for 8 yrs and
weekends are very tough on me if i do not have any
plans. its like i think of weekends of days of
celebration, Thats probably why i dislike winter so
much. I feel trapped inside my house. My mind is
programed to always do something, idleness gets me
into trouble.This weekend I wanted to play golf and i
could not, so i hung around the house and played mr.
fix it. Idleness is trouble for me thanks, Eric



Member:
Lorraine S - Ontario Canada
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
9:23:16 AM

Comments

Good morning to all. As I looked out the window this
morning to see the newly fallen snow, I became so
grateful because this time last year I would have been
so hung over that the glare from the snow would have
made me ill. I am so grateful to AA, to the fellowship
and to this conference for being here to listen, share
and care.

Congratulations Mike...hang in there, because it does
get better, one day at a time. One of the many tools I
have been given includes "Don't be afraid to share as a
problem shared is one which is 1/2 solved."

Many more 24 hours to each of you.



Member:
Lynn M
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
12:15:52 PM

Comments

Mike, thank you for reminding us all how tough
weekends could be. I read all kinds of books, watched
videos, baked bread, went to meetings, talked to my
friends and found a hobby. I knitted and it kept my
mind busy. Lorraine, thank you for that sweet message
about the snow. I don't have any snow yet where I am
but it was inspiring. Pete, in fifteen years I've had so
many strange experiences like that-I always chalk it
off to a reminder of where I was and where I don't
want to go back to. Keep coming back. And..just take
it for today.



Member:
Mary P
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
12:20:42 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Mary from Cleveland, Ohio. I've been
sober for 6 years, pretty active in the program. Lately,
for the past two or three weeks, I've been having some
pretty foul thinking, like being bored with the same
old faces at meetings, same AA rhetoric, being lonely
for lack of a romantic relationship. I'm beginning to
compare myself with some people that I know that
have been sober as long or longer than I have and have
stopped going to meetings all together. I also have
been diagnosed with a mood disorder known as
dysthymia and I have been taking an antidepressant
called Paxil prescribed by my psychiatrist. Maybe its
effect is waning, I don't know. I have an appoinment
to see my psychiatrist today. In the meantime, I know I
must continue to go to meetings, not drink or drug,
work the steps and continue to share in order for me
to get through this. Thanks for listening. Mary P.



Member:
John R.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
12:46:56 PM

Comments

MARY....It's called serenity,Dont worry it will pass
and you will have something to take your mind off
how calm things are at tat the moment.oh yes, John
alcoholic from Seattle. I know for me at about 5 or 6
years sober I found myself thinking along the same
lines as you. What had happened was I was
experiencing a calm in my life and there were no
disasters to contend with.My disfunctional mind
missed this and I could not or would not accept this so
I just sort of hung around until some old timer told
me to get off my butt and start working the
program.Either with myself or someone else. What
happened was in a short time things became to calm
down again.I had to get out of self to reclaim what I
had all along. Hope that made sense.....at the time it
did not make sense at all. It's all part of the process I
guess.Just keep "hanging around" It will pass and you
will get a whole new set of problems to contend with.
Not a problem right?.......WE CAN DO IT
TOGETHER. later, John .



Member:
Catherine L. - Ann Arbor
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
12:50:25 PM

Comments

Mike - I just wanted to let you know that I've been
where you are. Please try to remember to take it one
day at a time. I believe doing this is what has kept me
sober for over 5 years now. I could totally relate to
your question about what "normal" people do on the
weekends. It was hard for me at first too. I'm going to
an AA dance this weekend. That was one thing I
thought I could never do, dance sober! But, it's really
a lot of fun. Please just don't drink and go to
meetings. Mary, wow, could I relate to where you are!
I was diagnosed with the same thing and tried
antidepressants for the month of October. I couldn't
handle the side effects. I trying a homopathic remedy
now. Are you praying about what's going on? I know
it always helps me to turn to my Higher Power in
those time of confusion or boredom. Take care and
take it one day at a time.



Member:
Mary P.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
1:12:01 PM

Comments

Thanks, John. I guess I'm missing the crises. Thanks
again, Mary P.



Member:
Phil P. W.Chester Pa.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
3:47:04 PM

Comments

By staying sober through your most difficult time
weither it be day or night or whatever time of year
,when you do this you yes you will be able to pass it
on to the next person who is going through what you
are now.Don't give up five minutes before the miracle
happens.



Member:
rob r.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
3:49:57 PM

Comments



Member:
Perry H in PA
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
3:52:14 PM

Comments

Hello to Barb S.. I don't have your e-mail adress, but
would like to know if GSO had any comments on the
sight. Were you able to contact them? Or, did they
respond? Thanx for listening: Perry H



Member:
rob r.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
3:52:33 PM

Comments

hi i'm new in the room , on the comp it's allnew to me



Member:
Robert R.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
4:09:34 PM

Comments

hi to ya;ll i;m Rob Alcoholic Add. I'M New with this
comp thing



Member:
Rich L.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
6:36:47 PM

Comments

Hi to all, my name is rich L. and I am an alcoholic To
Robert R., I'm new at this computer thing too. I'm also
new in the program, 9+ months. This is great to be
able to read everybodies comments.I'm sure this site is
going to help me out a lot. Thanks



Member:
Rich L.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
6:38:18 PM

Comments

Hi to all, my name is rich L. and I am an alcoholic To
Robert R., I'm new at this computer thing too. I'm also
new in the program, 9+ months. This is great to be
able to read everybodies comments.I'm sure this site is
going to help me out a lot. Thanks



Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
7:28:09 PM

Comments

Great advice Catherine, couldn't add a thing!

Mary P, hang in there. Paxil is great with very few side
effects. It is one of the newer anti-depressants. I have
been on it for 4 years now with only great results.
You still do get depressed though, yes even on anti
depressants. The drug just makes you able to handle it,
just like everyone else without depression.

Great and sober week to everyone!



Member:
Molly A.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
8:32:10 PM

Comments

Hi, I am Molly. I am going to give AA a try. I seem to
need two drinks a day, and I don't like it. I hate to be
dependent on anything. It slows me down and I am so
afraid it will get worse. Just being able to say this is a
great help. Sometimes problems at home are
overwhelming and I need the drink to calm my nerves.
Starting tonight I will try and give it up. I commend all
of you.



Member:
Linda H.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
9:11:13 PM

Comments

Hi to all. I,m Linda alcoholic. Congratulations to
Mike!! One day at a time and your weekends will
become easier. Hang in there! Welcome Rob!



Member:
Kelle M.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
9:51:44 PM

Comments

Tina from Guam, please contact the secratary for my
email address.

Thanks for a great topic. I needed to be reminded that
it's gratitude month. I need to remember that every day
is gratitude day! It was very inspiring to see all our
newcomers making contact with this group as
additional help in staying sober today. It really
reminds me of those first days staying sober. Hang in
there newcomers. It gets better. I am so grateful to be
sober today. I am overwhelmed with the wonderful
gifts God has given me. Thank you for being there
Kelle from MI



Member:
Tress M.
Date:
11/17/97
Time:
10:00:07 PM

Comments

Hi everyone! I have been in the program for eight
years but this is my first try in communicating via
computer. I appreciated everyones input, especially the
newcomers. I am happy to see the program expanding,
and I am really excited to be participating. I am sure I
will be checking in periodically. So for now even I've
had enough of me. Tress



Member:
Mickey
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
12:44:58 AM

Comments

Just found this room and hope there is someone here
to talk to. Oh, my name is Mickey and I am an
Alcholic.



Member:
Mickey W.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
12:45:32 AM

Comments

Just found this room and hope there is someone here
to talk to. Oh, my name is Mickey and I am an
Alcholic.



Member:
Mickey W.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
12:46:47 AM

Comments

Is anyone here?



Member:
LorraineS - Ontario Canada
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:20:30 AM

Comments

Good morning and welcome Robert R.

A long one today, but I hope it is worth it to many of
you. I was surfing the net a few days ago in an attempt
to find something that would provide a friend with
some support in his journey to sobriety, it was not
until I read it back that I smiled because it explains so
well just how I have been feeling.

Sobriety consists of many emotional phases that most
of us experience. I am astounded that so many of us
go through these same feelings and in the same order,
even though the length of the time is different.

The first feeling we know when we become sober is a
sense of exhilaration at feeling so wonderful and
meeting so many marvellous people. We wonder why
we waited so long to do something about our
drinking! Every day is rosier than the one before.
Family and friends are congratulating us on how well
we look and how courageous we are. Oh, life is
sweet! We are certain we will always be riding on this
high...

And then our bubble bursts. We are locked into a day
to day sobriety and the maintaining of it. Few people
congratulate us anymore and it begins to reach our
consciousness that we are expected to stay sober
FOREVER! How can we do it ... stay sober
FOREVER? Everyone expects us to be "cured." It all
seems so definitive, this not being able to drink again.

Then comes the feeling of being in a glass box, of
being trapped into something we don't want
FOREVER ... sobriety! We've been sober now for 3
months, 4 months, or 5 months and we feel great.
How can we have ever thought we were alcoholics?
Sure, maybe it was tough at the end but it could all be
different this time.

This period of rebellion, of denial, of resentment at
being trapped into sobriety is probably the worst
period any of us will ever experience, for it is getting
through this particular phase that will make or break
our new sobriety. The one gift that WE have given to
OURSELVES.

During this time we cannot allow ourselves to feel
trapped. We must know that our sobriety is our
choice. No one coerced us into it. We can drink
anytime we choose to, but we now know what the
effects will be. We have chosen to feel good, to be
aware, to find happiness through sobriety.

Having accepted our sobriety as something we want,
and having worked through the period of feeling
trapped, we seem now to have moved into a period of
restlessness. It's as if we are waiting for something
terrific to happen, some marvelous event to take
place, the reason for which we cannot explain. We just
know we are always waiting. We can't explain how we
feel.

Perhaps it's because we are now in charge of
ourselves but we have no place to go with our new
life. While drinking, we lived only from day to day,
event to event, bottle to bottle. We lived without a
plan, for our life was not in our control.

Now, however, we are in charge of ourselves, our
decisions, our lives. We can do, and be, whatever we
choose to be but we don't yet know where we are
going.

For the first time, we are able to plan, to know that we
will be able to fulfill that plan because we are sober
and in control.

Many more 24 hours to you.



Member:
LorraineS - Ontario Canada
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:21:32 AM

Comments

Good morning and welcome Robert R.

A long one today, but I hope it is worth it to many of
you. I was surfing the net a few days ago in an attempt
to find something that would provide a friend with
some support in his journey to sobriety, it was not
until I read it back that I smiled because it explains so
well just how I have been feeling.

Sobriety consists of many emotional phases that most
of us experience. I am astounded that so many of us
go through these same feelings and in the same order,
even though the length of the time is different.

The first feeling we know when we become sober is a
sense of exhilaration at feeling so wonderful and
meeting so many marvellous people. We wonder why
we waited so long to do something about our
drinking! Every day is rosier than the one before.
Family and friends are congratulating us on how well
we look and how courageous we are. Oh, life is
sweet! We are certain we will always be riding on this
high...

And then our bubble bursts. We are locked into a day
to day sobriety and the maintaining of it. Few people
congratulate us anymore and it begins to reach our
consciousness that we are expected to stay sober
FOREVER! How can we do it ... stay sober
FOREVER? Everyone expects us to be "cured." It all
seems so definitive, this not being able to drink again.

Then comes the feeling of being in a glass box, of
being trapped into something we don't want
FOREVER ... sobriety! We've been sober now for 3
months, 4 months, or 5 months and we feel great.
How can we have ever thought we were alcoholics?
Sure, maybe it was tough at the end but it could all be
different this time.

This period of rebellion, of denial, of resentment at
being trapped into sobriety is probably the worst
period any of us will ever experience, for it is getting
through this particular phase that will make or break
our new sobriety. The one gift that WE have given to
OURSELVES.

During this time we cannot allow ourselves to feel
trapped. We must know that our sobriety is our
choice. No one coerced us into it. We can drink
anytime we choose to, but we now know what the
effects will be. We have chosen to feel good, to be
aware, to find happiness through sobriety.

Having accepted our sobriety as something we want,
and having worked through the period of feeling
trapped, we seem now to have moved into a period of
restlessness. It's as if we are waiting for something
terrific to happen, some marvelous event to take
place, the reason for which we cannot explain. We just
know we are always waiting. We can't explain how we
feel.

Perhaps it's because we are now in charge of
ourselves but we have no place to go with our new
life. While drinking, we lived only from day to day,
event to event, bottle to bottle. We lived without a
plan, for our life was not in our control.

Now, however, we are in charge of ourselves, our
decisions, our lives. We can do, and be, whatever we
choose to be but we don't yet know where we are
going.

For the first time, we are able to plan, to know that we
will be able to fulfill that plan because we are sober
and in control.

Many more 24 hours to you.



Member:
PAT L KANSAS CITY
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:34:54 AM

Comments

Hi all, this is Pat in Kansas City. Alcoholic,exdruggie
Special thanks to Lorraine. Today Im thankful for 13
days sober. It is one day at a time.Yesterday it was 30
seconds at a time but with everyones help I made it to
see a great sunrise without my bottle. Anyone that
cant get a quick response here, or just wanna talk, you
may email me DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM.
Some of you said you were new to the computer. Im a
technician and can usually walk you thru any
situation. I go to a meeting at 9am here. after that, Im
usually online. Today I feel good. Im not shakin,dont
feel like crap.Trying to not get cocky and watch my
high times and low. Im not new to the P.C., but new
to AA. Any advice would be appreciated, and if I can
help, I surely will. Thanks, say your prayers and thank
yous. KEEP COMIN BACK, IT WORKS, IF YA
WORK IT ! DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM
LOVE PAT



Member:
Pat L Kansas City
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:51:22 AM

Comments

HI, Im pat,Im an alcoholic in Kansas City Rob and
Mike, Im not sure if the last message got thru. Today
is good, with the help of the people here and my
higher power. Doing my please and thank you's and it
is working. Anyone may contact me at
DirtyFerty@hotmail.com



Member:
LorraineS - Ontario Canada
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
9:05:27 AM

Comments

Good morning and welcome Rob R.

This is such a magnificent day. Although the sun is
not shinning in my little part of the world today, I feel
the warmth of the missing rays... they are the rays of
hope, happiness and love that comes from being sober
again today. "one day at a time".

Wishing you all another 24 hours.

L :-)



Member:
Jenna L.Poconos
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
11:48:08 AM

Comments

Hi my name is Jenna,and I'am an Alcoholic an
Addict.Thank-You for this topic.It took me 3 trys to
prove that A.A works.But than I realize it was not the
program or the people it was me not working the
program or using the people, I thought I was my own
Higher Power and that scared me back into the
rooms,Ihad two years under my belt and now Ihave 38
days because I started thinking,the what if's and the
just a ones,That tiger awoke inside of me and took
over. But now I stopped thinking ,going to meetings,I
put the cotton in my mouth And I listen Iuse the phone
#'s that I get and belive me I'am not afriad to ask for
them But most of all I pray to my HIGHER POWER
for giving me my ONE DAY AT A TIME in the
moring and thanking Him at night. That's what this
program is all about to me I can start over anytime I
want in the day And ask for the help from Him
Because, He is always listening ,it just might take him
alittle time to answer,but he does answer. JUST
REMEMBER THIS IS A WE PROGRAM WE
DON'T HAVE TO DO IT ALONE..



Member:
Linda R.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
12:23:30 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Linda an alcoholic. I can remember
not knowing what to do with myself on weekends,
esp. Sunday. When low & behold the local movie
theater where I lived at the time starting running
movies for $1.00 a shot. From then on that is where
my daughter and I were every Sunday until I got better.
First there was my 10am meeting on Sunday then the
movies and then eventually I became more creative. I
would bake cookies, sew, go for a walk, anything to
get me thorugh the day. Hang in ther Mike G. you'll be
amazed how creative you will become the longer you
stay sober. Linda R.



Member:
Linda R.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
12:24:18 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Linda an alcoholic. I can remember
not knowing what to do with myself on weekends,
esp. Sunday. When low & behold the local movie
theater where I lived at the time starting running
movies for $1.00 a shot. From then on that is where
my daughter and I were every Sunday until I got better.
First there was my 10am meeting on Sunday then the
movies and then eventually I became more creative. I
would bake cookies, sew, go for a walk, anything to
get me thorugh the day. Hang in ther Mike G. you'll be
amazed how creative you will become the longer you
stay sober. Linda R.



Member:
eric E
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
2:25:43 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Eric and I am an alcololic. i just
wanted to let everyone know that I have to go for test
at the hospital tomorrow and it is scaring the hell out
of me. I have been having stomach trouble and I just
found out that I need a liver scan, I have thought alot
about what drinking has done to my liver, it just never
bothered me 8 yrs ago while i was pouring bourbon
into it.My magnifing mind has blown this whole thing
into a mountain. I know whats going own but I just
cant seem to stop. I guess just letting someone know
whats going on is the best I can do. This fear stuff
sucks! thanks Eric



Member:
eric E
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
2:26:07 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Eric and I am an alcololic. i just
wanted to let everyone know that I have to go for test
at the hospital tomorrow and it is scaring the hell out
of me. I have been having stomach trouble and I just
found out that I need a liver scan, I have thought alot
about what drinking has done to my liver, it just never
bothered me 8 yrs ago while i was pouring bourbon
into it.My magnifing mind has blown this whole thing
into a mountain. I know whats going own but I just
cant seem to stop. I guess just letting someone know
whats going on is the best I can do. This fear stuff
sucks! thanks Eric



Member:
Rick R.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:36:51 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I am an alcoholic from CA.

I've been trying to give away a resentment from work
all day today. I have a year in the program and the best
way I have found to regain my serenity is get out of
myself. I came here to do just that. Mike, I am glad
you made it to Monday. I always thought I was so
unique when I was drinking. It was a shock to me to
continually hear my story in meetings. A day like
today a year ago would have been a good excuse to
drink. Today I use it as an alarm to get to a meeting.
Thank you all for helping me remember my program.
I'm off to a step study meeting.



Member:
Rick R.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
7:37:21 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I am an alcoholic from CA.

I've been trying to give away a resentment from work
all day today. I have a year in the program and the best
way I have found to regain my serenity is get out of
myself. I came here to do just that. Mike, I am glad
you made it to Monday. I always thought I was so
unique when I was drinking. It was a shock to me to
continually hear my story in meetings. A day like
today a year ago would have been a good excuse to
drink. Today I use it as an alarm to get to a meeting.
Thank you all for helping me remember my program.
I'm off to a step study meeting.



Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
8:09:27 PM

Comments

Eric I wish you luck with your test. Remember, you
are in God's hands. Let go and let God.

Rick, boy you said it!! I have just gone through the
worst week at work since sober, and I am still sober!!
This is so great for me. The last time something this
tramatic happened, I drank again and I had three full
months?!?! Even my husband was worried this would
send me back but said I handled it like a different
person altogether. Thanks for this program, recovering
people and most of all, God who granted me this great
gift of sobriety!



Member:
Tech
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
8:12:22 PM

Comments

testing 1 2 3



Member:
SC Tech
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
8:27:19 PM

Comments

testing again

God, grant me the serenity ...



Member:
Jason C
Date:
11/18/97
Time:
10:01:45 PM

Comments

Hi I'm Jason and I too am an Alcholic.

Thought I too would take a minute and leave a note. I
haven't been to a meeting in oh say 2 1/2 weeks, I am
newly sober for another time and was going on a
regular basis for my first 2 1/2 months and then quit
going to meetings. Humm, now that I wrote this
seems like my regular modus operandi ( or something
like that) Thanks just had to write that and now time
to plan my next meeting tomorow.

Ciao! and thanks for the space.

 

Member:
Rich G. in WA state
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
3:12:10 AM

Comments

Normal folks, that is , those who are NOT alcoholic,
seemingly never ask themselves if they are an alkie or
not...this seems to be a common trait among most real
alcoholics. You said you have a problem stopping, I
can understand that, so did I. But God and AA has
completely removed that problem from me.

You also mentioned your attendance with AFG
(alanon) COOL!!! The oldtimers fondly refer to this as
"coming in the back door".

May I be so bold as to offer you a few suggestions?
(you don't have to read any further if you don't want
any, but the nice thing about suggestions is, you don't
have to TAKE any if you don't want to)

1. Go to as many meetings of AA as you can on a
regular basis. Speaker's meetings, Big Book study, and
step study. Go there often, on a weekly schedule over
and over and over til just PAST getting sick of this
routine.

2. Ask lots of ladies for thier name and phone number
and call them often and frequently until you get to
know them and they get to know you.

3. Pray...ask God to help you. He can and He will, if
only you would ask. He may be waitng to hear from
you, I know He waited a lng time to hear from me.

4. Read the first 164 pages of the book called
Alcoholics Anonymous. Once you've done that, read it
again and find the loopholes. If you find none, then
take our steps and we will walk with you! You don't
have to do this alone.

May God richly bless you in your journeys and I wish
you well.

Hi to Judy K....we first met in Mt Lakes several
moons ago, I was the guy who came with Jean K. the
realtor to your anniversary at Kirkridge in 1985. By
God's good grace, I've been sober continueously since
my auspicious entry. I also remember you moving to
the 'duck pond'. Sorry I never made the oppurtunity to
have coffee with you there. You are missed and
muchly LOVED, May God continue His blessings
upon you and yours.



Member:
LorraineS - Ontario Canada
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
8:00:29 AM

Comments

Good morning folks.

Thank you Pat for the message, that was very kind.

Quote for today: (Dr. Thomas Bennett) You wake up
in the morning, and your purse or pocket is magically
filled with twenty-four hours of sobriety. It is yours. It
is the most precious of possessions. No one can take
it from you. Many more 24 hours to each of you.

L :-)



Member:
Mike G
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
8:07:02 AM

Comments

Pat, because we seem to be limping through this early
stage together, I would like to talk to you. However,
at this point I do not have any answers. I do not even
know how to help myself. I still have trouble driving
past the beer store on my way home from work every
day. I strongly feel that we are doing the right thing. I,
for the first time, would like to wish you all another
24 hrs (especially you Pat).



Member:
Tim V. in PA
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
10:49:53 AM

Comments

The best advice for you newcomers is to stay away
from each other... You already know how to drink and
drug!

Stick with the oldtimers, they know how to stay sober!

Also, get hooked up with a sponsor and home group
in your local area. Rely on the strength of the program
not the weakness in it.

Although you may feel more comfortable with
newcomers, your chances together are greatly reduced
compared to those who stick with the winners.

Many blessings, Tim V.



Member:
Frank K. - Florence,NJ
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
1:29:11 PM

Comments

I agree with Tim V. suggestion also what helped me in
my first year was attending a "Living Sober" meeting.
If there is not one in your area get the book. If it
helped me it should help you.

Also when you get a sponser USE them. Get into the
habit of calling daily and listen to their experience,
strength and hope.

These suggestions worked for me.

KEEP COMING BACK!



Member:
Ron R. (Pa.) Clean and Sober
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
2:04:01 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, It's great to see and read all about AA
and the sugestions on how to sta sober One day at a
time. I went to a meeting at 6:30 am today and was
greatfull for the people there yesterday I was ready to
give up my sobriety and after talking to a few
oldtimers decided to wait until the next morning,
when morning come I went to the program for help
for a sober day I no longer want to get blasted today.
I'm not sure why this felling come on but I will tell
you that some times I just get sick and tired of
working on me, change, going to meetings, taking on
responsibilty and doing it, I think I just wanted to sit
back and do nothing, isolate, and give up. THen i
relized agian that I have a dis-ease that wins when I do
that I'm not ready to give it the satisfaction today.
"Thank you all for being part of my program" I wish I
could get on line more often but my shedule only
permits it on Wednesday'sThaks'again Ron R. Stbg Pa.



Member:
carol l
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
3:47:35 PM

Comments

Hi, i"m carol and i recently have been able to admit
i'm an alcoholic. Now to get on with my life. i 'm
having a very hard time getting my life together. i
went to treatment and failed. i thought i could
re-group and couldn't i don't want to work, move etc...
tomorrow my spouse and i have an appointment for an
outpatient program. i couldn't go with out his help.
tonight i'm going with a friend (nonaa) to a meeting.
i've been fighting this thing and for some reason i
beleive i have to fight it alone. i just realized that i
need help from family and friends. i have four more
hours before the meeting and i'm one scared chick. i
just don't know what to do.



Member:
Mary S., P-State
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
4:12:06 PM

Comments

Hello, I'm Mary and I,m an alcoholic. In this, my first
year of sobriety I have come to understand how easy it
would be to have a drink (which leads straight to a
detox). Like Pete, the habits of drinking seem to be
present in the ol' brain and those habits have not been
retrained. I was working in the kitchen cutting carrots.
My hand just flew to the side wear I used to keep my
scotch-tea. I wasn't even thinking about drinking. I
wasn't even thinking. The action of my hand alarmed
me at first. However, this time the thought of alcohol
did not anger or frustrate me and I did not dwell on
drinking. I was able to shrug off the thought and
continue with the rest of my day without worry or
cravings. I guess time will take care of the mindless
habits (the mechanics that the body performs to drink).

At this stage of my recovery, I always remember I have
a disease when I think of drinking. A few moments of
remembering its fast progression, in my case, and its
presence for the rest of my life usually gets me by. I
have the blessing of having the facaulties - sight,
sound, smell, touch, etc. - all perfect and unaltered by
alcohol. This gift was given to me again and because
of this program I am able to appreciate it, protect it,
and be grateful for it.



Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
6:19:31 PM

Comments

To Tim V.

I take offense at your message to Mike G. to stick
with 'the winners', the old timers. Are you trying to
discourage the new comers here by refering to them as
'losers' then, or not reliable to recover? I think an
apology would be due to all the newcomers. They are
sober, they are here and THEY ARE WINNERS TOO!

Mike G., if you feel a kinship, there is nothing wrong
with that. It is normal for 'new kids' to kind of stick
together. Just have friends who are both old timers
and newcomers. Hang in there Mike, we all started
with that first 24 hours!

Love and sobriety to all



Member:
Tina J. on Guam
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
9:59:46 PM

Comments

Message to Kelle M: When I asked the Secretary
(Cherise D.) to send you my email address she advised
that you weren't a member so they didn't have your
address. Please drop her a line and she'll forward my
address to you as requested.

Thanks!



Member:
Jenna L.
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
10:45:41 PM

Comments

Hello everyone my name is Jenna and I'am an
alcoholic an addict,Mike thanks for sharing for me it
is also hard I've been sober and clean for 40 days now
and it's hard for me to,see this is my thrid time around
these rooms,I had 2 1/2 years under my belt but I was
not following the program See I didn't use my phone
#'s or going to meetings or for that matter calling my
sponser,it took one weekend to totally mess up
because I started thinking the what if's and just the
One's are not going to hurt. I believed I was my own
Higher Power. But I did the right thing I came back to
the rooms with my head up high and said I'am jenna
alcoholic&addict Ineed help Imessed up,I could not
believe all the phone #'s I got,and how many people
are willing to help work the program and listen and
give good messages for me to hear. So what I have to
do is use the numbers call my sponser follow the steps
and when I'am down ask my higher power for the help
to start all over because I can do that now,and most of
all when I start thinking bad,I ask that important
question HOW IMPORTANT IS IT ??????????????
Thanks for topic, and keep coming back it does work
there are alot of miracles going on and yes you are one
of them....



Member:
Jenna L.
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
10:50:05 PM

Comments

Hello everyone my name is Jenna and I'am an
alcoholic an addict,Mike thanks for sharing for me it
is also hard I've been sober and clean for 40 days now
and it's hard for me to,see this is my thrid time around
these rooms,I had 2 1/2 years under my belt but I was
not following the program See I didn't use my phone
#'s or going to meetings or for that matter calling my
sponser,it took one weekend to totally mess up
because I started thinking the what if's and just the
One's are not going to hurt. I believed I was my own
Higher Power. But I did the right thing I came back to
the rooms with my head up high and said I'am jenna
alcoholic&addict Ineed help Imessed up,I could not
believe all the phone #'s I got,and how many people
are willing to help work the program and listen and
give good messages for me to hear. So what I have to
do is use the numbers call my sponser follow the steps
and when I'am down ask my higher power for the help
to start all over because I can do that now,and most of
all when I start thinking bad,I ask that important
question HOW IMPORTANT IS IT ??????????????
Thanks for topic, and keep coming back it does work
there are alot of miracles going on and yes you are one
of them....



Member:
Tech
Date:
11/19/97
Time:
11:33:12 PM

Comments

test



Member:
Tom M
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
1:24:55 AM

Comments

What's important? How new you are or how serious
you are? AA began with two people, one of whom had
less than 6 months sobriety, the other having none at
all. Of course, one had already accepted, in at least
rudimentary form, the principles embodied by the
twelve suggested steps of AA as they are now known.
Etc. The first went on to spearhead the creation of the
AA 'Bible'... writing most of the "meat" of it, as it's
used today... yes? So what's a "newcomer" anyway?



Member:
John H. Stroudsburg, Pa.
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
3:01:12 AM

Comments

AA to me is about changing my life...I got sober by the
grace of God. Yes, it's a blessing when each person
comes in AA, no matter what their intent or condition,
because maybe they'll stay.

The terms loser and winner are not related in AA A
loser is a person who, sober, is not CHANGING their
sick behavior. A winner is a person who has
successfully em- ployed AA's suggested program in
their life and they have CHANGED. I believe if the
shoe fits, wear it. As "3 piece Tom" said...If you were
a thief when you drank and you get sober but don't
change, then you are a sober thief! There is such a
thing as a sober loser. I have done some things which
put me in the sober loser class. If I do not feel low, or
like a loser, when I do things I know to be wrong, I
will see no reason to change. Thank God I see when
I'm a loser so I can change. As time goes by I am able
to catch old behavior sooner and stop it. In a few
cases, the old behavior is completely gone. ---thanks
for being here



Member:
Pat L Kansas City
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
7:17:32 AM

Comments

Mike G. Some of the oldtimers are saying that us
newcomers shouldnt get together. I dont think it
would hurt as long as we can help each other, what do
you think? Im going to the meetings, sometimes 2x a
day. Then of course Im in here reading and trying to
understand. I go to a meeting every morning at 9am.
Im the only newcomer. They are a great group. I dont
have a sponser yet. Im saying my Please to God in the
morning and Thank you at night. Lorraine has been an
angel.She has helped me greatly. For now,today, Im
sober and believe it is 24hrs at a time. The other day it
was 30 seconds at a time but,from the good folks here
and my higher power (God) I made it... I seemed to be
fighting myself, I was exhausted after the battle, but
felt great because I had won that particular battle. It
never ends, AA is a way of life. We throw out the old
ways and develop new ways of doing
everything..whatever it may be. Taking a new way to
the store, do laundry on Tuesday instead of
Sunday,Whatever it takes... and it takes (for me) major
adjustment in my life style. Thank you Oldtimers,God
and everyone...special thanks to Lorraine. One day at a
time ! write me if ya want, keep comin back.
DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM



Member:
Judy K in God's Country Maine
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
7:31:55 AM

Comments

Hey, Rick G -- of course I remember you -- and I've
moved from a duck pond to an ocean piece called
"Maple Juice Cove"

A thought for Diane H -- Tim V was passing on a
difficult and very valuable message! Newcomers may
be doing the best they can, but their thinking hasn't
changed all that much yet (it takes time. Groan) So
sticking with long-term "winners" makes a real
difference. Perhaps it could be stated this way: stick
with people who are GOOD for your sobriety, and be
honest about it. One other thing -- if you have a
sponsor with time in the Program she'll be telling you
the same thing in different ways. AA is social, but it's
not a social club.

Blessings to you all. This is such a great meeting!



Member:
Rich G.
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
6:27:24 PM

Comments

Hey to the techs- glad ya got the 'pass/basket'
working..sent small contribution today...you should
have it by Tuesday's mail...but i didn't see my notes in
current section, yet...Some format here May God, as
WE understand Him, be gracious to you all / HOW I
DO MISS YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!

In His service, Rich G in scenic Vancouver, WA



Member:
hoz l
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
6:28:41 PM

Comments

any alcoholics out there



Member:
Jim M. (in KY)
Date:
11/20/97
Time:
9:42:08 PM

Comments

Hi, I'm Jim and I'm an alky... I'd just like to suggest to
the new people in this forum that you really need to
go to real-life meetings too. These online meetings are
great to supplement them, but cannot take the place of
person-to-person interaction. I also want to encourage
any newcomers to keep attending meetings, as things
do get better! thanks, that's all I have for now...



Member:
Michael D.(Philly)
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
12:09:36 AM

Comments

hi everyone, my name is michael I am an alcoholic. I
am trying to come back to the rooms,but it is very
hard for me to do so! Iwas in the rooms for about 3
years,in and out of sobriety,I made many friends,and
lost twice as many through my drinking, and partying!
It is hard to walk back into those rooms, so maybe my
courage will come back through the miracle of my
p.c. At 31 I have burried many of my friends from
AIDS, I find myself now drinking much more than
before, I don't know why, maybe to numb the loss
more than likely to run away, I really do not like
drinking, I know I have a problem, but I am terribly
affraid of letting go! I remember getting my first 30
day chip and the love I received from the people in
that room! I am going to try it one day at a time
because I know it does work! people



Member:
LW
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
1:30:12 AM

Comments

Hi!

I live in a small town in CA. Sometimes our little
meetings get stirred up by personality conflicts. I find
this incredibly disturbing and realized today how
terrified I am of people. Most of the time, I love the
meetings and the people but when I feel like someone
is going to say something to hurt me, I want to get as
far away as I can. And tonight Iwanted to go to the
meeting but was afraid to and then I wanted to drink.
How do we stop being afraid of people, especially
people who are "bullies"?



Member:
Bruce K
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
3:09:40 AM

Comments

Hello I'm Bruce and I'm an Alcoholic. This is my first
time here. I've been sober since April 12,1994. I not
quite what to say, it's 12:30 Calif. time can't sleep.
Thanks for listening.



Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
7:34:29 AM

Comments

Judy K

I repeat we are ALL winners here. The term winner
should not be used, especially to exclude newcomers.
I think it is a little self-righteous to refer to oneself as
a winner because God has granted you a little more
time than another. I have heard of people with 3 years
plus going out again, any of us can. ALL of us are just
one step away from a drink for the rest of our lives.

Newcomers who have found the strength to admit
they have a problem and reach out for help are
winners and the most important people at these
meetings.

My sponsor does not refer to anyone as a "winner",
just people with more time.

Love to all, especially the newcomers who need us all,
old timers and new.



Member:
Barbara S.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
9:14:26 AM

Comments

Michael D., from Philly:

Welcome to this meeting. I hope you WILL find the
courage to go back to the rooms of AA. One of the
truly beautiful things about the Fellowship is that a
chair there is always open for us, and waiting. All
that's required is a desire to stop drinking, and we can
come in and claim that chair.

I can say for sure that, in sobriety, I have found
meaning and purpose and joy in living. You can, too. I
will be thinking of you.

Welcome, and peace to all -



Member:
carol in sc
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
11:20:59 AM

Comments

hi, i'm carol and i'm an alcoholic. i really don't know
what i want to say. my last drink was monday night. i
ended up sleeping in a rest area. why, because my
thinking was so irrational. it was cold. i bought
blankets and a pillow. i went to aa wednesday night
sober. a lady told her story how some blabbering idiot
called her and wanted to stop drinking. they wanted aa
to be open 24hours a day and didn't want to go to the
emergency room to get admitted to the treatment
center. i couldn't afford to do that at this time. yes, i
was the blabbering idiot.i called the place wednesday
and arranged an appointment. i went in and they
wanted me to do parital impatient from thursday to
sun. i couldn't thursday becasue i'm a student and i
had a test. i agreed to come in friday. at three yesterday
they informed me that my insurance company
wouldn't pay (this was considered outpatient) and
from my treatment in june (which i paid for) the
aftertreatment burned up my visits. i'm pissed. i can't
believe that i actually made plans and they completely
fell apart. my first treatment wasn't that great -
understaffed the first week then the place burned
down. i left.i made 73 days and then lost it. i would
make it two weeks and then drink, then two days and
one off. this is the longest time i've had in quite some
time. three days. i'm not working. a good job. i just
don't feel like going. i play solitaire from the time i
awake until the time i go to bed. i just don't know
what to do. please advise



Member:
LorraineS
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
11:36:49 AM

Comments

Carol in sc

As difficult as it may seem considering what you went
through at your AA meeting Wednesday night. Go
again or find another meeting... just do your best to
get to one. Someone will be there for you... just hold
out your hand and let someonte take it.

The Fellowhip of AA is incredible. Unfortunately it is
true that sometimes you will run into a bad apple. But
remember, that is true of any life situation. Don't give
up on the good people who want to help... they are a
majority.

Be kind to yourself Carol.

You are in my prayers.

L :-)



Member:
Brian C.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
2:43:32 PM

Comments

I have six days today and I'm bored with "normal" life,
I miss the the thrills and the "good times". What can I
do for sober excitment?



Member:
Glen H
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
3:48:55 PM

Comments

Carol in SC

Your comments really rang a bell with me. When I
first came in, I could always find some reason why
sobriety wasn't for me. The treatment center was no
good, the AA's weren't nice (or like me), and I had
other things to do.

When, however, sobriety becomes the most important
thing in your life (moreso than any test), I will assure
you that the hand of AA will be there. Please make it
to another meeting tonite !

We love you and are praying for you.



Member:
Debby R
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
4:49:55 PM

Comments

I too am having a hard time. I've been 14 days sober
and have not had a waking momment without thinking
about drinking. When will this feeling stop?



Member:
Eric E
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
5:09:53 PM

Comments

Hello everyone, I am Eric and I am an alcoholic, I
used to hear newcomers describe by oldtimers as
pigions,that used to really piss me off, then someone
told me that it ment that the newcomers go out but
always seem to find there way back. that kind of made
sinse to me.What also maakes sins to me is that I
spend so much energy trying to do thing right.I get all
confused about things in meetings, I loose focus of
the solution and stay stuck in the problem.I believe
that whatever keeps me sober is right for me. If it
hanging out with oldtimers are with new comers, I can
get what I need out of both. I like new comers, they
challange the system and teach me that things havent
changed, i get to see them grow and prove that aa
works.Its not real important to me how many years
someone has, every one just has today anyhow. Ive
seen newcomers slip and ive seen oldtimers slip, if
you dont work the steps it doesnt matter, you will
drink again. Today I try to focus on the solution. If i
dont some new comers going to kick my ass thanks
eric e



Member:
Mike G.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
5:16:29 PM

Comments

Hello everyone,

Well, it is another weekend. For some reason this
weekend seems like it will be easier one for me than
the first two. I am going to go fishing. Thanks again
for all thoes out there who have given me support. I
think that it is time for me to find a sponser. What is
the best way to do that? Good luck Pat and Brian.

Mike G.



Member:
Mike G.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
5:16:50 PM

Comments

Hello everyone,

Well, it is another weekend. For some reason this
weekend seems like it will be easier one for me than
the first two. I am going to go fishing. Thanks again
for all thoes out there who have given me support. I
think that it is time for me to find a sponser. What is
the best way to do that? Good luck Pat and Brian.

Mike G.



Member:
Kerry H.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
6:19:43 PM

Comments

Hi, My name is Kerry and I live in Williamsburg,
Virginia and this is my first time at this site.Any
suggestions would be helpful I am coming up on two
years sober and am looking for AA friends. Have a
good one and looking forward to meeting you guys.
kerrysh@bellatlantic.net



Member:
Doug A. U.K.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
7:17:04 PM

Comments

Congrats Mike G. As we say in The Joys Of REcovery
her in England, "Don't drink, go to movies", or in your
case fishing. I did not sober up in order to have a
miserable time, and follow the suggestions in BB
pp.132-133. The best way to find a sponsor is to ask
someone. Preferably someone with three years or so
sobriety. It is suggested that you ask someone who
also has a sponsor, and lives the programme.

I am available for online help, and my E mail address
is available from the secretary of this group. All you
have to do is ask.

As a way of experimentation, I tried tywelve stepping
someone online and have found it worked. The
sponsee is now at meetings and is about to begin step
four. Internet does work as a medium for passing the
message.

Love in fellowship, Doug A.



Member:
Doug A. U.K.
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
7:21:43 PM

Comments

Congrats Mike G. As we say in The Joys Of REcovery
her in England, "Don't drink, go to movies", or in your
case fishing. I did not sober up in order to have a
miserable time, and follow the suggestions in BB
pp.132-133. The best way to find a sponsor is to ask
someone. Preferably someone with three years or so
sobriety. It is suggested that you ask someone who
also has a sponsor, and lives the programme.

I am available for online help, and my E mail address
is available from the secretary of this group. All you
have to do is ask.

As a way of experimentation, I tried twelve stepping
someone online and have found it worked. The
sponsee is now at meetings and is about to begin step
four. Internet does work as a medium for passing the
message.

Love in fellowship, Doug A.



Member:
Patty S
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
7:24:13 PM

Comments

Hey you guys - I'm Patty and I am a sober alcoholic
that will celebrate 15 years on Thanksgiving Day. Talk
about Gratitude!. I am going back to the same sister's
house where I had my next to the last drunk on Nov.
27, 1982 - I accidently took one of those inadvertant
naps that alcoholics take, right at the dinner table -
almost scared me sober as I came to with my head
bobbing downwards toward the Thanksgiving mashed
potatoes. To Mike G, how you go about finding a
sponsor is go to LOTS of different meetings, listen
closing, go back again. When you find someone who
"walks the talk" - pray about it and ask your Higher
Power for guidance - and if that person is a good
example of carrying the AA message and you can
relate, then ASK HIM! Don't be afraid to take the risk.
Sponsors are not set in concrete (nothing is in AA) -so
if it doesn't work between you, put a closure to that
relationship and find another that will work! I went
through several my first year! By the grace of God, a
women moved to my area and she has been my
sponsor for over 13 years! (Except for one year when
we took a leave of absence from each other)_
Personalities overtook principals! By all means, don't
look for the "perfect" sponsor, you won't find him!
Just look for a 'REAL' person. Good luck and God
bless, one day at a time - from Patty S. in Vancouver,
Wa.



Member:
Linda H. Cape Cod
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
7:43:21 PM

Comments

Congratulations Mike! Every day that you don't pick
up a drink, weekday or weekend, is a miracle. Enjoy
fishing and be grateful that you are doing it sober!
Carol in S.C....get to another meeting and let people
know that you are new to the program. I have met
some terrific people in AA that have helped me along
the way. Don't drink. go to meetings, and ask for help.
God bless!



Member:
Rick W
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
10:24:38 PM

Comments

Hello my name is Rick I am a alcoholic, addict from
Nanaimo,B.C. Canada. I have been clean and sober 23
months one day at a time. This is something I would
like to share that helps me along the way. It goes like
this.... Letting Go To let go does not mean to stop
caring, it means I can't do it for someone else. To let
go is not to cut myself off, it's the realization I can't
control another. To let go is not to enable, but to
allow learning from natural consequences. To let go is
to admit powerlessness, which means the outcome is
not in my hands. To let go is not to try to change or
blame another, it's to make the most of myself. To let
go is not to care for, but to care about. To let go is not
to fix, but to be supportive. To let go is not to be in
the middle arranging all of the outcomes, but to allow
others to affect their own destinies. To let go is not to
be protective, it's to permit another to face reality. To
let go is not to deny, but to accept. To let go is not to
nag, scold or argue, but instead to search out my own
shortcomings and correct them. To let go is not to
adjust everything to my desires, but to take each day as
it comes, and cherish myself in it. To let go is not to
regret the past, but to grow and live for the future. To
let go is to fear less and love more.



Member:
carol in sc
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
11:37:49 PM

Comments

i'm carol again, i've once again gone out and had a
drink. how stupid can i be. i've read a lot of this and i
can relate but i've never been in such a shit hole
before. i've decided to go on a medical leave. i don't
know if that is best or not. i don't know anything. my
spouse loved my sobriety. now he doesn't know how
to react. my class ends the 15th of next month. i've
looked at all kind of options. i'm sort of worried. i
keep saying to myself that i'm crazy and now my ideas
are wild. i don't really know how long (is ok) to write
but i'm just going to go with it. i started my day by
telling everyone near me that i didn't need them any
longer. i could do this on my own. as above stated,
rehab didn't work out so i was pissed at the world. i'm
beginning to convince myself that i really am crazy. i
can take out my investments and 401k and pay for
rehab - also get ahead on bills at home so my spouse
doesnt' feel like we'll loose the house over this - i
actually went' to therapy tonight. i'm stuck -- i have
wild ideas:take the rest of the year off on medical
leave, go to treatment in jan, then take the beginning
of next year off to coninue, what the hell is wrong
with me? i've always been responsible for my older
siblings, crisis at work, crisis any where and now i'm
allowing my self to bullshit my self. i suppose the
reason it bothers me so much is i thought that i always
knew how i responed. i was right there for cirsis, i felt
guitl, i wasn't a complete asshole. now it's like i'm
ready to bring and make, as many people possible hate
me and give up. that's actually how i started my day --
ruining other people's day - they weren't giving me the
answers i wanted to hear so i told them to get the hell
out of my life. except when i got to the therapist - i
actually thought my mood had improved - she asked
me what i was getting ready to do - flee the state or
worse- i blew her off but at this point in my life i dont'
know what i'm looking for nor what the hell i think
my plans are also -- my earlier message - when the
lady was talking about a blabbeing ididot - it was her
first time on the list - she was just upsett that it didn't
work out. - i admitted to who i was to let her know it
did work. my chip on wednesday was important - i'm
still to chicking shit to go to a meeting on my own. i
drank tonight. -- you would think that the hurt in my
spouses voice and looks would make me never want
to see alcohol again. i'm really hurting -- please help
me



Member:
carol in sc
Date:
11/21/97
Time:
11:55:59 PM

Comments

i'm carol - i can't babbl;e on the phone nor do i wnat
to. to lorraine s. thanks - i really flet good after
reading this - i hope i can make it. thank-you to glen h
- i've almost completed this semester. if i would have
drop with five classes left i would have never
forggiven myself ( and with my spelling you can see i
need school). to linda h in cape cod - thanks but i'm
having a hell of a time making it to work. how can i
make it to a meeting. i can't even get motivate to get
off this computer. i started solitaire at 7:30 this
moring and got off of it at five. i think this is great but
it'll take getting use to people knowing what
dilemmas are before stating how i should resolve
them. i'm looking for treatment, will have cash, any
suggestions? i'm really not trying to sound flamboyant
- but if i do to myself i suppose i do to others also
please advies



Member:
Dan
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
5:23:22 AM

Comments

Hi Carol,

Your post brings back memories. It does get better,
but from what I've seen, it only gets better for those
who go to face-to-face meetings, read the Big Book,
get a sponsor and work the steps. If there was an
"easier" way I'd have done it---there isn't.

I wish you well.

Dan



Member:
Judy K in slippery Maine
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
7:47:52 AM

Comments

Hi Carol in SC -- I think you know what you need to
do -- I pray you'll do it. Before rehab again, how about
surrounding yourself with some AA women -- even
ask someone to stay with you for a while. It's the old
AA way, and it still works!



Member:
Diane H.
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
7:49:09 AM

Comments

To Carol

I have all been where you are. My 'bottom' was crazy, I
was in a locked car with a loaded gun. I had been
demoted at my job with much humiliation, completely
lost the love and friendship of one child, the other
gave me an ultimatum, my husband of 21 years
couldn't take it anymore and was going to call it
quites. This was all after being drunk every waking
minute I wasn't at work for years. This was where I
could see no solution but death, no fix to my drinking,
I couldn't stop. Hurt in the eyes of my family or no, I
couldn't stop. God walked me into an AA meeting and
saved my life. I don't know how to describe it except I
surrendered to him and he took over. I felt a strength I
have never felt before and started recovery. I say
started because I went to AA for 3 months before I
actually, totally stopped drinking. I did as they said
and kept going back and eventually I 'got it'.
"Sometimes quickly, sometimes slowly..."

I hope my story conveys some of the desperation at the
beginning of my recovery. Carol, it is a hard road to
begin, nothing worthwhile is easy. It can be done for
you but you have to be willing, you just keep doing
what people at the meetings tell you. They know
because they have been there. The important thing is
to go to meetings. If it didn't work, there wouldn't be
sooo many of us (recovering AA's) around the entire
world.

Good luck and you will be in my prayers.



Member:
Mike G.
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
8:15:17 AM

Comments

Carol,

I know that school can be a real challange. More so if
you are drinking. I just finished my Ph.D. in July. It
took me six years- six very, very long years. I truly feel
I could have done it in a lot less time if I was not
drinking the whole way. I thought that once the stress
of school was over I could focus on my drinking.
What a joke! I just found that I had more time to
drink. I wonder what I could have done if I would
have quit years ago.

Mike G.



Member:
Pat L Kansas City
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
9:01:50 AM

Comments

Today is frustrating, I cant get to a meeting. Ive got to
get the kid to karate, then we have a bunch of stuff to
do for the church in preparing for thanksgiving and
christmas. Maybe I can go later. Hell of a way to wake
up. Im 16 or 17 days sober today, not awake yet, will
have to look at the calendar. Im thankful for all of you
here and special thanks to Lorraine. When I think of
her, I think of all the stuff she told me. Then I pray and
go on with my day. It is getting easier with all you-alls
help and the help of my sponsor and God. Well gotta
get, Say your please's to help you not drink and say
thank you at night. keep comin back, Love to all Pat
Dirtyferty@hotmail.com



Member:
Kelle C.
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
3:37:38 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I am grateful today to be sober today and
have asked my higher power to help me with that. I am
glad to have this online service. I think the more I keep
my mind filled up with positive things the better. I
know some days are very hectic with all the family
oriented activities, but the important thing for me to
remember is that there has to be some time out with
my higher power.

Thanks Kelle C.



Member:
Rick R.
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
7:45:04 PM

Comments

Hi everyone, I hope my question is appropriate for this
area but my group needs some information. I am the
literature chairperson for our group and I have had
requests for AA decals and bumper stickers. I can get
"Easy Does It" ones but they are interested in others
too. An example they gave was a round sticker of the
AA emblem. Can anyone give me any addresses or
info? Please e-mail me at RDRUTTE@oro.net

Thank you!



Member:
judy b
Date:
11/22/97
Time:
9:09:38 PM

Comments

Hi. We're sober in Erie, PA. Anyone else? Having a
grateful day. hope you are too.