Member: MIKE S
Location: OH
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 1:27:33 PM
another GREAT day sober in ALCOHOLIS ANONOMOUS thanks for being here
Member: Robb W.
Location: Mississauga,Ontario,Canada
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 5:25:00 PM
Hi, Robb, Alcoholic. Just dropped the kids off with their mother. What a great weekend! I tell you AA just proved to me that miracles do happen every day. I have to go now to my 12 step discussion meeting with my sponsor (30 years in March!!) Hope to see all your comments when I return tonight! Wishing you another 24 hours sober. Robb W.
Member: don w.
Location: akeley mn.
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 6:10:19 PM
Hi i am don a greatful recovering alcoholic.. Has been great weekend to be sober and alive in mn.. temps. in 40'S for hi and sun shining.. topic for meeting this week will be interesting...don
Member: mark d
Location: las vegas, nv
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 6:24:35 PM
Interesting? I think it's going to be more like a riot! One of the very first things I was taught was to respect the various fellowships for what they were, and to abide by the traditions of whatever fellowship I found myself in at any given moment. . Alcoholics Anonymous....hmmmm seems pretty simple to see that this is where the alkies go......Narcotics Anonymous...hmmmmm...must be where the drug addicts go....Cocaine Anonymous....snorters and free-basers...Last time I checked this was an AA meeting....seems pretty simple to me...
Member: rex h
Location: wa
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 8:20:15 PM
hi
Member: Cindee S.
Location: Ventura, Ca.
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 9:00:46 PM
Hi everyone, my name is Cindee and I'm an Alcoholic. Wow, i remember the first time I said that and the over-whelming feeling of finally coming home. Last May my husband and I made a Pilgimage to the Home of Dr. Bob, and walking those 12 steps to his front door gave me the same feeling of coming home. God Bless..
Member: Susan H
Location: Santa Monica, Ca
Date: 2/8/98
Time: 11:00:43 PM
Hi, I am Susan, and I am an alcoholic...I am just overwhelmed and grateful that I have found this website....I am so grateful. There is much going on for me, but i will just say have a wonderful sober evening an day tomorrow...thanks
Member: Jim
Location: Taiwan
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 4:30:42 AM
Right now I've been sober for just over 50 hours, I spent some time with AA many years ago but left. I moved to Taiwan as one of many efforts at getting a clean start, but now that I feel like I've been completely broken I found that there are very few English meetings here. I've spent the past few days teetering between panic and despair. Finding this web site I was hoping for more than bickering about who is allowed at meetings. I know that I am an alcoholic, only 27 years old and drinking close to a fifth bottle a day for a while, but right this minute I'd happily listen to any addict who could help me make sense of the misery I've inflicted on myself. dissappointing.
Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 10:17:15 AM
ShelleI, alcoholic here. To Jim in Taiwan, you have found the right place, and Susan in Santa Monica too. I am brandnew here and at this sobriety concept (since last Thursday) and most of it has been because of the encouragement on THIS site. Ignore the bickering at the meeting for now and get out of this what you need and came for. It was scary to me also, and made me a little afraid to say anything, but I decided to keep my focus on finding what I need and let the 'more experienced' ones work out the details. Thanks to these people here and God and the fact thay my guardian angel is hovering very close, I have made my first meeting, still no sponsor, but that is in God's hands, I found my books, (Big Book and 12 Steps) and made it through the weekend. I am going to be honest and say it was really rough. Anything else would be a lie and a great diservice to anyone really struggling. But I made it. I am going to a meeting at noon, taking it literally one step and one breath at a time. Thanks to this website, I found the courage to contact a friend in another city who is a recovering alcoholic for a number of years and for whom I have the greatest respect, love and trust, and hopefully I can "chat" with her when necessary until I find a local sponsor. I am going to do this, one day at a time, with God's help, and y'all (!) can do it too. God will hold you close during the hard times. Love to all.
Member: Susie S.
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 10:51:39 AM
ShelleI, you have much wisdom!! It couldn't have been said any better!!
Glad to be back after the weekend - the topic for the meeting is pretty controversial, but it makes life interesting!!
Happy Monday Everybody!! Love and Peace, Susie S.
Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 12:03:29 PM
Sure it's a controversial topic, it does make life interesting and it needs discussing. My opinion on it is to save it for the proper forum such as group conscience or a Tradition's workshop.
While we're busy feeding our ego by showing how intelligent and well read we are regarding "singleness of purpose", we're neglecting our "primary purpose" which is to stay sober and help others to achieve sobriety.
Member: Louie D.
Location: Coral Springs, FL
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 1:23:10 PM
Louie, alcoholic, hi everyone. Time for a little humor:
A man was driving and was stopped by a policeman for having a broken tail-light. He received his warning and as the policeman was walking back to his car he looked into the backseat of the man's car and saw a box of 12 inch knives. He hauled the man out of the car, told him of the illegality of the knives and the man told him he was a jugler and was on the way to a job. He pulled the box of knives out of the car and started juggling about eitht of them. A pickup truck drove by with two men on the way to an AA meeting and one of the men exclaimed. Boy I'm glad I quit drinking. Look what they're doing for a sobriety test now.
Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 1:57:19 PM
Hi, Fran P./alcoholic. To Jim of Taiwan, don't give up, please don't get discouraged. All of us here are not of the same opinion. And you are quite right, our main purpose is to stay sober. These are the things you should focus on: 1. Get to whatever English meetings you can. 2. Its very important to get local phone numbers of fellow AA's with time in the program to call when you have those desperate moments. 3. Get a sponsor. There is also a place online where you can get a sponsor. Put Sponsor Online into a search engine and you should come up with the address. Don't have it on me right now or I'd give it to you. 4. Read AA literature. 5. Pray 6. Remember, it DOES get better! God bless. I pray you hang in there just a day at a time and we hear back from you
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 2:13:16 PM
Hi, Suzanne, alcoholic. Hey Shelle, I could have used your enthusiasm a week ago. I felt much better after a meeting though. Thanks for reminding me to be a beginner again, and always. I am thankful to my Higher Power for still being sober. Keep coming Back!
Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 2:49:09 PM
ShelleI here again, Suzanne, what you are interpreting as enthusiams is probably more accurately pure desparation. But thanks for the positive spin on it! I am sure that the enthusiasm will eventually come.
Member: frank b
Location: portland oregon
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 3:19:58 PM
louie d i love your joke that was cool..looks like we need a little humor to lighten the load of this weeks topic
Member: John N.
Location: CORK IRELAND.
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 7:21:25 PM
'Hi every body lets count our blessings .If this site passes the message of AA to just one still suffering Alcoholic then its AA working. GOD works in strange ways.I thank AA for 11 years of contment and leading me back to a kind gentle loving GOD .
Member: Tina
Location: LA,CA
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 9:44:21 PM
To Jim and all the other newcomers...I am one too. It is hard for us to really describe the feelings while in this disease...but I have a desire to be sober also...and that is the only requirement...right? I hope and pray I too have someday what many of you do now.
Member: happyroad1@aol.com
Location: ventura,ca
Date: 2/9/98
Time: 11:40:32 PM
louie, thanks for the joke, I teach drunk drivers for a living and will pass that on, always looking for new material. lol
Member: Dennis P.S.P.
Location: Post Oak, Houston, TX
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 1:02:36 AM
ShelleI,
Just take the complement. A simple "Thank You" would suffice. Despite what you think, Suzanne was right... your worth it! Let the people in this program applaud your efforts, give you complements and love you until you can applaud your own efforts, give yourself "Atta Girl's" and love yourself. NEVER put youself down or degrade yourself... this can be a cruel world and there are plenty of sick people out there willing to do it for you!
You are a precious child of God and you DESERVE complements.
A.A. is like the Graduate School of Hard Knocks. Everyone here is growing up in public. And it's about time!
In A.A. you get...
1 point = for breathing and being alive.
1 point = for not drinking.
and....
2 points = passing grade!
ANYTHING above that and your on the Honor Roll!
Now, I just landed a dream job today so I have GOT to get some rest! Some days I "Trudge the road to Happy Destiny" but today I was skipping and singing! But now I'm pooped... so I'm going to bed.... See Ya!
Okay, one more thing... be CAREFUL for what you pray... God just might give it to you! ...my lesson for today. Adios!
Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 9:23:31 AM
From ShelleI, alcoholic to Dennis - Post Oak, Houston; Thank you. Congratulations on the great job!
Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 9:33:44 AM
To Tina: Yes, that's the Third Tradition: "The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking." And you can do it! The way I found easiest, and has helped me the most, is to do it one day at a time. Just for today, don't take a drink.
If you can do that, each day, you will find joy in your life that exceeds even what you dream of now. Good luck, and I'll say a prayer today for you and all the newcomers to this site.
Peace to all -
Member: Desiree P
Location: Buffalo
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 10:33:45 AM
To Louie and Frank,
A little humor is always appreciated and usually a little underused. Thanks!
Member: Barry L
Location: Penna
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 10:42:10 AM
Welcome to all the newcomers,
Jim sorry you are finding all of this bickering, but its what I would call a Tradition meeting, a part of AA just as important as Begginers Meetings. If you need some more basic stuff, read our archives of past meetings at http://www.stayingcyber.org/scarchive/archives.htm until you can get to a live meeting, and try not to have a drink Today (or is it yesterday or tommorrow in Taiwan????)
As Fran P. mentioned getting a Sponsor is a very good idea, StayingCyber has a list of members available for e-mail sponsoring, you have to go to the guidelines page and become a member, then let the Secretary know you want a Sponsor.
Have a Happy 24
Member: Desiree P
Location: Buffalo
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 10:42:54 AM
To Tina:
Keep going to meetings, don't pick up the first drink, pray, get a sponsor, work the steps-- those are the things that keep me sober. It's hard at first but worth it. You need to do some of the footwork and leave the rest to God. Are you willing?
Member: George B.
Location: NW Ohio
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 1:03:57 PM
Great page for a sober alkie like me! I'll be back!
Member: Susie S.
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 1:22:00 PM
I'm really down today. I just wanted to stop by for a "pick me up" cup of coffee. Glad you guys are here. Just wanted to share.
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 2:57:49 PM
Hi everyone, Suzanne, alcoholic. Great day here in Ontario! Sun is shining in more ways then one. I am "focused" once again on my recovery. I admit, I get a bit scared when I lose focus. Most important thing is I still have my sobriety. To Shelle - you reminded me where I was when I started 7 months ago. I was desperate, and wanting to focus on recovery. I guess last week I was losing that focus, maybe even feeling a bit desperate and your comments and eagerness helped to get me back on track. Thanks to all who visit here and keep coming back!
Member: Anny H.
Location: Sault Ste Marie Michagan
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 5:16:37 PM
AmI glad there is an online meeting! I have been home sick with the flu off and on for almost 3 weeks! I don't want to get everybody else sick too and so have missed a lot of face to face AA. * To Jim and all the newcomers - If you think you belong here you probably do. Third tradition is very inclusive not exclusive. I arrived in AA 22 years ago at age 20 and some considered me to young and the wrong gender! Today no one thinks twice about gender or age. AA works if we do the steps and listen to our sponsors and just plain do not drink, one minute, one hour one day at a time. I am thankful we have each other.
Member: Tony G.
Location: Pequannock N. J.
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 5:56:09 PM
Hi gang, Tony alcoholic. Jim from Taiwan, if age was a requirement there are alot of teens who have not heard of it where I live. These kids come because they know that when they pick up alcohol they have problems but like us until they came to the rooms did not know how to stop. So don't sweat the small stuff stick with it and pray to your higher power as you understand it. Tony G.
Member: Amanda R.
Location: Trinity, TX
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 7:01:37 PM
Hello everybody, Amanda Alcoholic and Drug Addict here. Well I feel like I can go to any meeting because I never had one drug of choice. If it would make me feel different, I took it, drank it, smoked it, snorted it! It makes no difference what, I can not and do not take any mind altering chemicals now and have not since October 17, 1991 and by God's grace I will not today and for many days to come.
Louie, thanks for the joke, my husband and I (he's in the program too) had a great laugh from it. To all of the newcomers I will say to you what my sponsor said to me so many days ago: Don't drink. Pray. Don't drink. Go to meetings. Don't drink but if you feel the urge, PRAY and CALL SOMEBODY BEFORE YOU TAKE THAT FIRST DRINK. It worked for me and so many others I know. You must be willing in the program and it will work for you.
Remember, God loves us all. He doesn't expect perfection only progress. Oh yeah! We made the trip from Florida to Texas with no mishaps and plenty of time to spare. Now begins the job search, however we both feel optimistic and will leave it to our Higher Power. Amanda
Member: mark d
Location: las veags, nv
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 8:28:12 PM
My name is Mark and I am an alcoholic......I used to think I was a big bad drug addict who drank a bit too much......turns out I'm just another drunk who did a few drugs....
Member: Dennis P.S.P.
Location: Post Oak, Houston, TX
Date: 2/10/98
Time: 8:36:40 PM
Does anybody know of any open chat lines where recovery is discussed?
If you do, please send me some addresses or URL's. I want to expand my directory. My personal e-mail is <sponsor@swbell.net> I work with a lot of people in remote areas and I'm open to suggestions.
Member: ruthie c
Location: georgia
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 12:01:41 AM
Hi everyone
I haven't been that great this week. I did a few days of sober and for no reason other than habit fell back into the pattern.
I havn't sign on recently because I felt so disappointed in myself. But last night I was thinking, this was my first try in 15 years to stop drinking. I went 3 day without a drink. I haven't gone 3 hours in 15 years without a drink.
I just have to keep climbing back up on that wagon until I get it right. Please put up with me, because I do not intend to give up! But I need your help and support.
You know, one of the problems that I have is that drinking has been a big part of my life. I find when I don't drink that I can't figure out what to do with myself. I feel like I need to be doing something that I don't associate with drinking.
Give me some suggestions on how to re-direct my focus when all I want to do is get something to drink.
Suzanne H, I have been having trouble with my email, as soon as I get it right, I will be giving my special friend a transmission.
Thank you for caring and being there.
Member: kay h.
Location: vegreville, alberta . can.
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 1:40:45 AM
hi i'm kay alcholic from ALBERTA. CAN. enjoyed the meeting on line and the jokes, louie. happy 24 to you all.
Member: Pete S.
Location: MA
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 2:21:34 AM
Pete - alcoholic; Welcome back Ruthie C. Keep Comin!!!
Member: Heather H .
Location: Vancouver , BC Cnd
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 2:44:01 AM
Hi Am Heather and i'm a alcoholic..
Hey Ruthie C.......What helped me - was picking up the phone instead of a drink. I know it's hard to call a AA member when the desire to drink is so overwhelming but say the sernity pray a few times and miracles will happen. I had to keep REAL close to meetings. I put the same effect into my recovery as I did into my drinking so I was at meetings every day for a long time. I had to reach out and let people get to know me. I also know that's hard because I had a lot of trust problems. It's like taking baby steps. What got me rolling was being active with the steps. I started by attending a lot of Step 1 meetings and I also read Step 1 at home.
AA for me is about being ACTIVE in my home group, in the steps and in service. At first I started by helping with coffee. It helped me a lot because I begun to get to know people in my group. I felt isolated for so long and AA offered me a new life. But I had to reach for that new life. I had to keep close to the program and the people. I still do to this day. I am also 9 years sober and I know that praying to my GOD was one tool which brought me this far. The word GOD scared me but I had nothing to lose. I already lose my self respect& my self love thru broozing and cruising so I told myself to try the GOD thing. Praying and mediation helps me a lot. At first it was just about saying thank you.
It's important for me to keep reaching out. I just moved to the beauitful mountains in Vancouver BC and I had to adjust to reaching out again. It's hard but with GOD's help I will always get my needs met and sometimes my needs match my wants-not always but sometimes.
Thank you all for my sobreity. I feel real happy and contented today and I know it's a direct result of the AA program and all it's amazing tools and discoveries.
God Bless you ALL and I wish you happiness, love and lots of laughter with your friends, family, and the world at large.
Heather H .
Member: Jim
Location: Taiwan
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 3:40:48 AM
It was good to see your responses. I went to a meeting that night, it was in Chinese but I found an English Big Book to read. Drinking coffee and smoking cigarettes was at least a way to pass the time away from my room and the bars. I learned how to say "I'm an alcoholic" in Chinese "wo shi jiu guai" literally " I am an 'alcohol ghost'" I thought that was interesting. I also learned that there is a priest in town with more than 10 years in the program, he's travelling but will be back soon. I find myself swinging from euphoric optimism to panic and despair but for the moment I'm holding on, 4 days now. thanks.
Member: Sharon D.
Location: Mass.
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 4:20:25 AM
Just discovered AA on the net; don't get to meetings anymore, so this is a real bonus. I will have 13 yrs of "one day at a time" in April. For me, life IS a "bed of roses"; I have learned to beware of the thorns and to deal with them the best that I can. To all the newcomers out there, grab hold of the lifeline offered by the members of AA and hold on tight....there is a great life out there!!
Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 9:40:08 AM
Ruthie, we've answered that question. As long as you keep coming back, we won't stop telling you the same thing. The first thing alcoholics do with themselves when they don't want to drink and don't know what to do with themselves is to go to a meeting. We ALL started that way.
Until you become willing to go to meetings, you're going to continue to have problems.
We all tried to find the "easier, softer way" but it just ain't there.
Member: ShellleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 10:12:00 AM
ShelleI, alcoholic back again. Maybe Ruthie's question would be a good topic for a general meeting sometime. I am truly coming to understand the importance of meetings (I have made 2) read my books, learn the program and pray alot, and not be too proud to ask for help. But in addition to all that there are some other practical questions that come up in daily life with we have to leave the security of the meeting and venture back out into the big world outside. How to spend time, new associations, new friends, new activities. How not to substitute another compulsive addiction for the one we are disentangleing from. I have a practical question for which I need some practical input. Perhaps this would be a good one for 'mid-timers' whatever that might be, at least someone who has passed this way recently enough to remember dealing with this. A week ago today was my last drink. A week ago tomorrow is my first week birthday. I had expected to have boundless energy for all the stuff I love to do and want to do, but I am SO PHYSICALLY TIRED that it is hard to keep going through the day. Also, I feel depressed. My question is how long does this last, and how do I get my energy back?! Jim, we are glad to hear from you and have been thinking about you. Remember, we are all in this together.
Member: John D
Location: Kit. Ont. Canada
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 11:45:44 AM
Hi my name is John and I'm an alcoholic. I just found this sight and think it's great. I'll keep coming back for sure. and remember all "the elevater to serenity is broken so please use the twelve steps
Member: ruthie c
Location: georgia
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 11:56:03 AM
Hey
I keep hearing your comments and everyone seems to have benefited from going to meetings. I'm going to go. Will someone go with me? I know I'd never make it by myself the first time.
Do they have any meetings for non smokers? Do I have to tell them my name and stuff? Does it cost money?
I live in Lilburn, GA.
I have more time in the day than the evenings, because I'd have to get a babysitter.
Just writing this scares me to death, going to an AA meeting...
Member: Susie S.
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 12:02:18 PM
Hi Everybody - It's me, again. I feel a little better today - been struggling with my powerlessness over finances - boy, is that a hard one!!
To Ruthie C - Glad you're back, and Glen H. and Heather H. are right, you've got to go to meetings!! Get involved!! You will find your life filling fast, but you've got to take action.
To Dennis in Post Oak, TX - There is a pretty cool recovering chat site at: http://www.billh.org/chatnow.htlm I've visited there a few times, and some of the other people there may have other chat sites for you. What is URL? I'm new to cyberspace and was just curious.
To Everyone Else - thanks for your "words of wisdom", it really helps me -
Love and Peace to Everyone
Member: ruthie c
Location: georgia
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 12:04:48 PM
Hey
I keep hearing your comments and everyone seems to have benefited from going to meetings. I'm going to go. Will someone go with me? I know I'd never make it by myself the first time.
Do they have any meetings for non smokers? Do I have to tell them my name and stuff? Does it cost money?
I live in Lilburn, GA.
I have more time in the day than the evenings, because I'd have to get a babysitter.
Just writing this scares me to death, going to an AA meeting...
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 12:24:07 PM
Hi again. My name is Suzanne and I'm an alcoholic. Ruthie, great to see you back I was a problem drinker for 11 years. The last 6 or 7 years heavily. I tried to quit many times. The last year I was desperate. I was losing my husband and kids. My kids are 15, 13 and 9. My health became a major concern. After having my first physical in almost 10 years I learned that I had liver damage. It didn't surprise me but I knew I had to do something to quit. I tried everything to quit but AA. Finally when I crashed, I had nowhere to go. No money, no friends, no family, no one was going to help me so I checked into the Detox Centre and the counsellors there suggested a treatment centre. When I entered the treatment centre I thought of myself as a sponge. I was going to absorb all that I could.For 21 days I stayed in a beautiful home with 14 other women and some wonderful counsellors. I was "taught" how to get through a 24 hour period. I would get up at 6 am. Read my meditations. Pray. Have coffee and a few smokes while talking to the other clients in the house. Have breakfast. Do chores. Attend "in-house" meetings twice a day. Have dinner. In the evening we would go out to an AA meeting. There I bought all the books I needed so that I wouldn't allow myself to become "lazy" with my recovery when I was finished treatment. Everything I learned in treatment I carried on after returning home. When I got home I concentrated on my recovery. I have decorated 7 rooms in the house, installed an oak railing on the staircase, learned to use the internet, I am typing all my recipes on the computer (I figure this will take a month or so) I am finishing many things that were left undone from my drinking days. For me there never seems enough time in a day. Remember though to always make time to go to meetings! It is the key to survival. Here I am 7 months later, I have my husband and kids, I have a newly decorated house and it is tidy. I have my sanity, most of the time. I have new friends and I have God in my life and most of all I have My Sobriety. Changing my daily activities away from drinking was a challenge. I try to look at it as an adventure, excited to see the results. Every 24 I hold very dear to me no matter how uneventful it may be, as long as I am still sober. Keep coming back!
Member: LOUIS L
Location: GATINEAU,QUE.CANADA
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 12:38:20 PM
louis, alkie. ruthie one book that help's me alot is of course the B.B,but another one is "LIVING SOBER" .and for meeting,just call your local AA (phone book) and you can have someone pick you up.don't forget in AA you are never and will never be ALONE again.it works just give yourself a chance.good luck.
Member: Tech
Location: everywhere
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 1:21:02 PM
Susie S. URL is the address you typed in to the chat room, it's short for Uniform Resource Locator, which is the way we find places on the internet
Member: Fran P
Location: Buffalo
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 1:34:24 PM
to Jim and Ruthie,
Go to meetings, read the AA literature, get a Sponsor, pray, like Louie say's, call your local A.A. Donations of usually a dollar are made as the basket is passed at a meeting and you can afford to do so. Most meetings these days are non-smoking and people give their first names and last initial at meetings. It's so important to go because alcoholics tend to isolate themselves. It just feels so go to go and make a connection with someone like yourself. Let us know you made the call to AA and went to a meeting.
Member: Jean D.
Location: NJ
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 1:44:19 PM
Hi, my name is Jean and I'm an alcoholic, sober one day at a time by the grace of my higher power and the miracle of AA.
This is my first visit to this site. Thank you, all, for letting me share - I hope it is appropriate to respond to some newcomers to the program since I've been around a while.
Dear Tina: Keep coming back. Your "desire to be sober" is a simple statement of what keeps all of us coming back. That desire to stay sober is the key of willingness!
Glen is right, Ruthie C., about going to meetings. In order to stop drinking, which is hard enough or certainly was for an alcoholic like me, and what's more, in order to STAY stopped - the REAL miracle is to stay stopped - we need to be willing to go to any lengths. Even to meetings! Good for you, Ruthie, it is so hard for most of us to open up sometimes, and posting your comments is a good way to begin. Hang in there, dear. Please remember, none of us could do it alone.
Dear Shelle: I guess I must be a "mid-timer" - in the middle of growth, in the middle of my journey, sober one day at a time. (22 years doesn't qualify me as an "old-timer"). When I was new, I hated it when they told me it takes time. But it does. It takes time, and there is no one universal timetable that fits all. Give yourself time, any way possible. Some people, in early recovery are agitated and hyper. Some are, like you, so tired, so low on energy. For how long? Everybody's different! The natural thing for an alcoholic is to drink. Not drinking is bound to feel "unnatural" for a while, every cell of your body has been affected and is going through withdrawal. It will get better - for now, if you're tired, sleep. Tired is OK. Drunk is not OK. Meetings will help. If you've gained one week away from the booze you've made stupendous, huge, magnificent progress! What a wonderful place to be! There are no rules in AA, but advice you'll often hear is "Don't drink and go to meetings", for myself, I HAD TO do those things, they were "musts" for me. If you avoid the first drink, by ANY sane means, whatever works for you, and go to meetings where you'll ask the questions and hear the answers to questions unasked, you can make it. Perhaps the AA book "Living Sober" will add some tips - look for it!
To Jim in Taiwan, with 4 days: Believe it or not, you have already been able to help others. By describing the Chinese-language depiction of an alcoholic, "alcohol ghost", you helped me by reminding me of that empty hole inside me I used to have, soul-less, hollow, desolate hole in my insides - only a ghost of the person I was meant to be! Thank God I'm not there any more! By describing the mood swings, from euphoria to despair, you helped a lot of people identify - early recovery can be like that for many of us. By telling this group how you went to a meeting, and there at the meeting found information about how to keep on, and found a Big Book in English, you've demonstrated that meetings help (even meetings in another language), and AA literature helps! Keep up the good work! By helping yourself and writing about it you are also helping others. For about ten years of my sobriety I held jobs that required a good bit of travel, mostly throughout the US, some international travel, too. I've been to meetings everywhere I went. AA is everywhere, and helps alcoholics all over the world; AA works. In Hong Kong I found good, English-language meetings. In Europe, too. You will find the group you need, there in Taiwan. Don't drink, and keep trying. I am pleased to hear they do have Chinese-speaking AA there. When I was in Hong Kong (in '89) Chinese language AA was not strong yet.
Again, thanks for letting me post these comments.
Member: jennifer D.
Location: western,Pa.
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 2:14:28 PM
Hello Everybody!! My name is Jennifer and I'am an alcoholic, It's been a while sence I've been to a meeting. I have been sober sence Mar.6,1982. I have'nt been to a meeting sence my son started playing Ice Hockey 3 years ago. My home group disbanded,(please excuse my spelling),about two and a half years ago. So I've just sort of let things go. I have not had a drink, or mood altering drug etc...the whole time though. It is not easy to stay sober when there is a warm bar in the Iceoplex to sit in !!! Belive me, there were many times I'd sit by myself in that freezing cold rink because I felt a bit shakey. If I take ONE drink, that will put me right back where I started from 15 yrs. ago. To AA; I'am truly greatful for teaching me how to cope with life ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 2:58:50 PM
Suzanne, alcoholic. Welcome Jean D. Thanks for sharing your comments. Ruthie call the AA office and they will have no problem finding someone for you to go to a meeting with. All of us will be with you in spirit. You can count on that! Let us know how it goes. When I go to a meeting I always ask God to walk with me.
Member: Susie S.
Location: Dallas, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 3:00:14 PM
Thanks TECH for that information and excuse my cyber ignorance haha!
Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 4:01:49 PM
ShelleI - Those are good questions, and probably in time the answers will come. One of the promises is that we will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us - and that's the good news. The bad news is that it doesn't happen until you're well into the steps.
Incidentally, have you ever told your spouse of your new life? If you haven't, you might discuss it with your sponsor. Going to AA in secret is going to make it hard on any new friendships you might make.
For the curious, URL is the acronym for Uniform Resource Location.
Member: ShelleI
Location: Austin, TX
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 4:26:40 PM
To JeanD and GlenH; thanks for your comments, input and suggestions. Glen, I am easing up to the subject with my spouse by leaving my Big Book and Twelve Steps Book out where he can see them. He is an almost-teetotaler (and VERY proud of it) so any new non-drinking friends I make will be FINE with him. I am not very comfortable talking to him because he is almost viceless and I am very human. I hesitate to expose myself to the raised eyebrows the shaking of the head I know will come! BUT, I am making progress! I have been to two meetings but have not found a sponsor. The meeting last night was with just one other person - the leader! No one else came, because it is a brandnew meeting and not many people know about it yet. She gave me her number, but I don't know what the formalities are for having a sponsor. It was really sort of comical. She was in the room with the door closed, and I did not know anyone was in there. I was sitting on a bench outside by myself, she didn't know I was out there. She gave up and came out of the room, just as I was getting ready to leave. We both laughed about it and then talked. And yes, I agree, going to a meeting the first times alone is VERY scary but it can be done. The desire for what is there has to be stronger than the fear.
Member: pete s
Location: ann arbor mich
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 7:28:17 PM
Hey Guys, This is the first time I've done this. It's strange to see people sharing in this way. I've just celebrated my 13 year anniversary ! Did' nt have time to hit a meeting today and this is proving to be a fun alternative. Don,t have much to share really, just wanted to give this a shot. I'm Very glad that there's one more way for people to avoid the trap of isolation that is a hallmark trait of our disease. I'm going out for a little while, will check computer when I get back. (hope someone responds)
Member: connie r
Location: columbia gorge
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 8:01:30 PM
glad to be here and be sober another day.
Member: Kerry B.
Location: Idaho
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 10:05:11 PM
Kerry, alcoholic. Ruthies questions reminded me of the first time I went to a meeting. I was sure that there would be a bunch of Skid Row types sitting around, talking to themselves. Was I surprised, those people looked just like me. Also, they did not make me pay a dime or sign any contracts. We have a seventh tradition that states that we are self supporting through our own contributions, but the meetings I attended always let the newcomer know that it was not a requirement for membership. We put in if we can, and if we can't, that's okay too. We usually get to contribute financially eventually. You will just have to go and see for yourself. There aren't any boogeymen there, only the one's in your head. For me it was so hard to beleive that I could be accepted without any conditions whatsoever. Of course it was a good idea to come sober, because under the influence of alcohol it's hard to even listen, let alone comprehend what is being shared. I'm so grateful for the program and the life working the steps has afforded me. I love all of you, thank you for sharing.
Member: Jackie E.
Location: Cha., RI
Date: 2/11/98
Time: 11:21:28 PM
Hi, I'm Jackie and I'm an alcoholic. I'm also thrilled to have found your site. I gave up alcohol New Years and pot, Feb. 6 th. At one time back in the 80's, I had 6 years. I don't believe, you forget all you learned during that time. I go to lots of meetings. I have a sponser. Last Friday I went on a commitment, like I was told. I get on my knees in the morn- and at night. I guess what I'm saying is, listen to what the old timers tell you do. You may hate hearing it now but later you'll be grateful. These people are your Higher Powers gift to you. We all dam lucky. We could die out there. Even worse, we could die alone. Louie, I loved the joke! Thanks
Member: Trevor W
Location: London,UK
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 7:53:06 AM
Hi I'm Trevor and I'm an alcoholic.I've just loaded a new browser and found this site so I dropped in to say hello. I'm just coming up to 4 year sober in April and was looking back and seeing how my life has turned around completely. From staring insanity and/or death in the face I have a new freedom which is enabling me, among many other things, to look forward to a dream trip to China next month.The "promises" do come true and I have tremondous gratitude to AA + HP yet I still procrastinate with the steps!?! I'm going to a retreat this weekend with about 60 other AA members and hope to use the time to complete my step 4. I've had a good taste of whats on offer and want more. All this from DDAGTM (don't drink and get to meetings).Thanks for being there.
Member: Eileen D.
Location: Pa.
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 8:26:43 AM
Hi, just dropping in to say I am sober 4 weeks today. Can't thank you enough. Please keep the comments coming. My God and you people have been a great help. God bless all of you. Eileen
Member: jim
Location: missouri
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 9:38:00 AM
hi. my name is jim and i am and alcoholic.ruthie and jim get to a meeting. one day this old boy told me about his drinking and i learned alot about me. god did something for me that day,and i didnt even believe in god. i have been sober a few 24's i still go to meetings that way i remain focused, i might even help somebody else but than i never have asked. you 2 hang in there these people care about you. god bless look for a sponsor.
Member: Judy K
Location: Marvelous Maine
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 9:57:38 AM
Jim in Tiawan -- isn't it lovely how HP planned ahead by putting an English-speaking person with 10 years sobriety close by? Always works that way, I've found. You just keep reaching out!
I too am an "alcohol ghost." What a concept! The phantom of the disease is always with me, but thanks to AA I can focus on the solid body of recovery!
Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 10:43:29 AM
Eileen, I always get uncomfortable when someone congratulates me on a birthday, because, after all, why should I be congratulated on receiving a gift from my HP? (And yes, I'm one of those who doesn't believe in birthday night.) I do believe that sobriety dates are important because what I really want to remember is not my first day sober but rather my last day drunk. I don't want to go back there.
Remember this ?
"Thanks Diana, Dave B, Mike S, Jim H, and Barbara S. I realize just from chatting on this site that alcaholics are wonderful people. Just to take time out to help a stranger is TERRIFIC. I am still trying to get the courage to go to a meeting. I almost feel like traveling miles just to get to a different place, but that is stupid. I know I couldn't do this everytime I needed to go. Today, I am taking it 24hrs. at a time. I will keep on the site often an pay I can continue these days without a drink. Thanks again to all of you. With God's help and yours I know I will make it."
Don't thank us - you've helped us. Just remember, YOU didn't do it, God did.
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 11:04:49 AM
Suzanne, alcoholic. So nice to see the newcomers to this site. Welcome to Pete S. (congrats on the 13 years), Jackie E. and Trevor W. Eilleen D. Thanks for just dropping in to say Hi! Congrats on the 4 weeks! I am enjoying reading the comments on the concept of the "alcohol ghost". Keep them coming. Jim from Taiwan thanks for the topic. To everyone "Have a serene 24".
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 12:01:50 PM
Glen H., after reading your last comment I have realized so much. Last week at a meeting I was applauded for being 7 months sober. I felt uncomfortable with that. At the time I wasn't sure why. I know now that it was because no matter how hard I tried to get sober on my own that it wasn't until I turned to God and AA that I achieved sobriety. It is truly a gift from God. Sometimes I don't take the time to remember. I must keep telling myself that it is important to remember. Glen, I have gone back and read all of your comments. You make so much sense. Whenever I try to express things I seem to complicate them. It is something I have had a hard time with from day 1. Keeping things simple is difficult for me, but I keep trying.
Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 12:50:01 PM
Eileen D.: Great to hear from you again! Sobriety is a wonderful gift, and we hope you will keep coming back and sharing it with us!
Member: Tony G.
Location: Pequannock N. J.
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 12:52:51 PM
Hi gang, Tony G. alcoholic. Wow what a week so far, I have been very angry since yesterday and have not been able to see my sponsor yet. I am on disability and have just found out I have to wait six more months for medicare benefits. What bothers me is that it seems the one hand does not know what the other is doing. This may be the wrong place to get this off my chest but I needed to or I would have been too closed to people and what they could say to help me in recovery.
Jim from Tiawan, Thanks I have been coming to the program for two years and the way you say it as 'alcohol ghost' fits to well how its been for me. I have not been able to string a month together because that 'ghost' knows how to haunt me. It says boo and I run for the bottle, odd reaction but true. It is not that I am afraid of it but that I am afraid of life on lifes terms. Lets face it its a weird place out there and alcohol though killing us is a devil we know than the devil we don't called life. Do not get me wrong that is one devil I wish to face life on lifes terms but only with others will I be able to. Keep looking and my Prayers are with you. Tony G. and fellow traveller in sobriety.
Member: JulieR
Location: New York
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 1:27:18 PM
Hi Everyone. My name is Julie and I'm an alcoholic. This is my first time to this site and it's nice to know whenever you need someone, they are really there. I could have used this a while ago. Things are good right now. I just started working on my 4th step so a lot of things are going on. Its good though. Well thanks for letting me share
Member: jennifer D.
Location: western Pa.
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 2:30:09 PM
Dear Ruthie, I lived in Ga. about 10 years ago...and that state is full of really strong AA. Every state, country etc..does for that matter!!! I felt a bit "shy" at first about going to a meeting. I was very young when I HAD to get sober. We ALL had/have a choice to make. My sponsor told me that the group would love me untill I could love myself. That felt nice! Please go; and keep on going. your HP is handing you a gift! All change is hard at first. Some day, you may help someone who has reached his/her bottom; and that is another gift from this program. DON'T be afraid to walk through those doors alone because you are not alone after all!I learned in Georgia that fear was the bigest motivator for my addiction. The fear of not getting what I want; and the fear of looseing what I have. I was looseing my entire life; and afraid there was nothing to live for. Just take it ONE DAY AT A TIME. And remeber...God did'nt make no junk!!!
Member: jennifer D.
Location: western Pa.
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 2:33:56 PM
Dear Ruthie, I lived in Ga. about 10 years ago...and that state is full of really strong AA. Every state, country etc..does for that matter!!! I felt a bit "shy" at first about going to a meeting. I was very young when I HAD to get sober. We ALL had/have a choice to make. My sponsor told me that the group would love me untill I could love myself. That felt nice! Please go; and keep on going. your HP is handing you a gift! All change is hard at first. Some day, you may help someone who has reached his/her bottom; and that is another gift from this program. DON'T be afraid to walk through those doors alone because you are not alone after all!I learned in Georgia that fear was the bigest motivator for my addiction. The fear of not getting what I want; and the fear of looseing what I have. I was looseing my entire life; and afraid there was nothing to live for. Just take it ONE DAY AT A TIME. And remeber...God did'nt make no junk!!!
Member: jen D.
Location: western Pa.
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 2:39:47 PM
OOPS! I promise I won't hit "submit" twice again. Sorry :)
Member: John D
Location: Kit. Ont. Canada
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 12:19:43 AM
Hi John here and I'm still an alcoholic. I'v been following along here and think it's great but havent had much to say till now. I have a bit of a problem and don't quite know how to handle it I'v been in the program since Oct. and at that time I joined a group.The group is great but there is another group I would like to join because I feel I could become more active there. My problem is how do I go about this without feeling guilty or looking like Ihave a problem with the people in the group? Your input would be greatly welcome and appreciated. thanks for another 24hrs
Member: Michael L
Location: Islamorada, Fla.
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 12:45:41 AM
Hello Everyone, Alkie Mike here. I just wanted to say that I am so very happy to be here today,(and glad all of you are too!!)and after 4 + years of not drinking, I still wake up with hangovers some days??? I don't know if I'm dreaming I'm drinking a half gallon of Capt. Morgan or maybe it's just stress. Hey, tell your kids you love them.
Member: DEBORAH H
Location: TACOMA,WA
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 2:09:39 AM
HI MY NAME IS DEBBIS AND I AM AN ALCOHOLIC. I JUST FOUND THIS SITE AND I AM VERY THANKFUL. TO THE NEWCOMER'S KEEP COMING BACK, THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF GOOD ADVICE OFFERED. A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO I WENT TO MY FIRST EVER AA MEETING TO SUPPORT MY FRIEND WHO WAS COURT ORDERED TO GO, AFTER RECEIVING A DWI. I KNEW MY LIFE WAS UNMANAGEABLE, BUT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT ALCOHOL WAS THE PROBLEM. IT TOOK ME 90DAYS TO DECIDE THAT YES I WAS AN ALCOHOLIC. AT 4 MONTHS I HAD TO GET A SPONSOR BECAUSE I WAS GOING CRAZY. SHE TOLD ME TO CALL HER EVERY DAY, GO TO A MEETING EVERY DAY I DRANK OR DRUGGED, READ PAGES 86,87,88 DAILY, AND DON'T DRINK OR DRUG BETWEEN MEETINGS. MY SPONSOR HELD WEEKLY STEP CLASSES WHICH I WAS REQUIRED TO ATTEND. SHE WAS HARD BUT I AM GLAD. JANUARY 14, 1998I CELEBRATED 3YRS CLEAN AND SOBER. I BELIEVE IN CELEBRATING BIRTHDAYS SO THAT THE NEWCOMERS CAN SEE OTHERS HAVE MADE IT AND TO GIVE THEM HOPE. I LOVE NEWCOMERS BECAUSE THEY GIVE ME HOPE. GET INVOLVED WITH YOUR HOME GROUP, SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE INVOLVED WITH MORE THAN ONE GROUP, DO SERVICE WORK. I DIDN'T WANT TO CLEAN ASH TRAYS AND MAKE COFFEE BECAUSE I DON,T DRINK COFFEE OR SMOKE CIGARETTES, BUT IT WAS POINTED OUT TO ME THAT WE ARE TO SERVE OTHERS NOT OURSELVES. TO THE NEWCOMERS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FILL UP THERE TIME, BE PATIENT, GO TO MEETINGS,PRAY, CALL ANOTHER ALCOHOLIC, READ AA LITERTURE. AS I WORKED THE STEPS MY LIFE FILLED UP. I WORK FULL TIME, GO TO MEETINGS DAILY, SPONSOR OTHERS. RECENTLY I HAVE EXPANDED MY SERVICE WORK TO INCLUDE THE LOCAL JAIL. IT HAS BEEN A WONDERFUL EXPERIENCE TO CARRY THE MESSAGE TO THE JAIL. MY SPONSOR WONDERS WHEN I HAVE TIME TO SLEEP. I AM JUST SO HAPPY TO BE SOBER THAT I WANT TO EXPERIENCE ALL THE THINGS I DREAMED OF WHEN I WAS SITTING ON THAT BAR STOOL DRINKING. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I HAVEN'T STRUGGLED WITH SOBERIETY, BUT WITH THE HELP OF GOD AND THE FELLOWSHIP OF MY HOME GROUP I HAVE MADE IT ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Member: Pete S.
Location: MA
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 2:29:51 AM
Pete, alcoholic , safe and sober today. The only requirement for membership is a desire to stop drinking. To John D. Feel free not to drink at both meetings. Enjoyed reading from you all. TTFN
Member: Tony G.
Location: Pequannock N. J.
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 2:35:51 AM
Tony G. here alcoholic. Hi gang hows things going? HEY JOHN D. Kit. Ont. Canada, I had a group as my home group, I also had a group I went to every week. They needed a coffee maker and my sponsor thought I fit the bill. It did not matter that I belonged to that group I needed a commitment and my HIgher Power as I understand it provided me with it. Do it! You will get to know those with good sobriety. Friendly to the end, Tony G
Member: Jim
Location: Taiwan
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 3:46:35 AM
hey. I'm pleased that so many people found the translation as interesting as I did. Tomorrow night is my one English meeting of the week and I'm looking forward to it. I'm reading the Big Book all the time, even if I don't feel like I'm getting anything from it specifically or if it's something I've read before, I just like the act of reading it, with meetings so difficult to come by it's something I can do to keep from thinking too much. I'm amazed by how naturally and easily the idea of drinking comes to mind. I didn't have to work until 2:00 today so when I finished work yesterday my first thought was that I could drink until morning and get away with it. 4 and 5 times a day it will occur to me how nice a drink would be. Convenience stores here sell liqour 24-7, it's always there. I feel good right now, but it's unnerving to think that at any time I could stumble. I've tried to quit before and found myself drinking without expecting to at all, I'll feel good and suddenly a drink right that minute would be the best thing in the world and off I go. I do feel good, I'm optimistic, I think the last year really beat the first step into me, I have a long list of recent horrors to remind me how powerless I am. Thanks for letting me ramble (as if you had any choice) It's nice to check in here.
Member: Tim G.
Location: Poconos, PA
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 7:19:38 AM
John D.
Around these parts, people move around to different groups all the time, it's no big deal. Do what's best for you sobriety and join the group you would be more active in. Service is a big part of my sobriety, hope it becomes a big part of yours.
Member: Perry H
Location: On location in New Orleans
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 7:50:31 AM
Hello from New Orleans! My name is Perry H and I am an alcoholic from Stroudsburg Pennsylvania. I just wanted to let my home group know that I really miss them! I miss my morning meeting... but know I have this really great online meeting... Thank God for It!
I always remember that formula for guaranteed sobriety that my sponser and all the old timers used to talk about: Here goes, I hope helps in Taiwan and around the world:
1. Roll out of bed onto your knees and pray to your Higher Power to be sober for that day.
2. Read something from the Big Book.
3. Call you Sponser, or someone from the program and see if you can help somehow.
4. Go to a meeting everyday. Tha tis possible with this online meeting you know!
5. Pray, on the ole knees "Thanks" at the end of your day for being sober another 24.
The above formula guarantees that a drink shall not pass my lips. Verry Cool Formula for me anyway.
I love this program with all of my soul and heart and miss that " Main Street Morning Group" that meets in the Best Western Ba rroom at 6:30 am! But, New Orleans is really beautiful and full of loving people too.
Please see "Pass the Hat " section of this web site today, for I am your treasurer for Staying Cyber and we always need to support AA and keep this meeting going.
Thanks for letting me share: Love Perry H
Member: Suzanne H.
Location: Ontario Canada
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 8:33:24 AM
Good morning. My name is Suzanne and I am an alcoholic. Jim from Taiwan. Ramble all you want. I always ramble. You have especially made me think this week with the translation, "alcohol ghost". It describes so much. Oh and when I sit here and read and share I have made a choice. I chose to stop by for a coffee instead of a drink. Jim make sure you get to that english meeting or I may have to soon invest in a chinese-english dictionary. I thought for sure there would be more comments on "alcohol ghost". It has been kinda "haunting me" all week. In a good way.
Member: Diane G.
Location: MA
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 8:50:37 AM
Hi, I'm Diane and I'm a grateful recovering alcoholic. I joined this group last October, but was unable to attend this meeting in quite some time. My husband, who is on kidney dialysis has been hospitalized 4 times for congestive heart failure due to fluid overload from dialysis. He was in the hospital 2-1/2 weeks over Christmas. And most recently, while on vacation at Cape Cod, was rushed again to the hospital. I have been attending live meetings and have gotten so much support from other alcoholics. My husband Bill, who also is in recovery, has had such a great attitude. This is because he has been working his program and depends on his Higher Power to get him through. God does not give us more than we can handle in one day if we ask for his help. He has proven this time and time again. Page 449 in the Big Book on acceptance has really carried me through all the adversities in my life. No power on earth can keep me away from a drink. Only God has that power. I say the Serenity prayer several times a day and it gives me peace. If you are new, do your self a favor and pray to a Higher Power. AA is a miracle program that works. There is no reason to pick up a drink. I wish everone a sober 24 hours.
Member: jennifer D.
Location: western Pa.
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 10:39:46 AM
Jim in Taiwan, it's me, Jennifer, the alkie. Stay aware of how easy it can be to "slip." I've always felt that even in that moment of insanity, we still have a choice. Most all the people I've talked to that have slipped, said they LET themselves take that first drink. They knew what they were doing. My fear of that first drink is always with me. I know that if I ever did slip, I don't think I have the courage or honesty to get sober again. My husband is in the program too. How could I face him, my children, and the rest of those in my family? Also, I want to be around to watch my teens grow up and quit wearing those HUGE clothes! I no longer think about drinking all the time. My habits have changed over the years. Even at the worst of times, alcohol is not in the picture. "This too shall pass." Don't you love that??? You're doing great! Now I need to go before I start up with my usual silly chatter! YOU DON'T RAMBLE...I do!!!
Member: Jim M.
Location: NW Ohio
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 11:10:08 AM
Some days, like today, I think I feel that sober alcoholics are neater people than sober non-alcoholics ! Thank You, God, for this wonderful "personal program of recovery"...I do not know how...but it works! Another sober 24 to everyone.
Member: Juanita F
Location: Pahrump Nevada
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 11:27:24 AM
Hello all Juanita alcoholic here .Does anyone know what is happening with the AA Club house Chat room add. is http://www.billh.org.chatnow.html I have not been able to get in all week really miss everybody my user name is lilbit .Been going to F2F meeting and reading here but like all alkies I want more . Thanks For beeing here Great topic this week!
Member: tech
Location:
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 12:03:04 PM
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Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 12:10:38 PM
Juanita -- see if this is the page you're looking for:
http://www.myrtleweb.com/aarecovery/javachat.htm
If it is, it's been moved; if not, I've never had time to try that chatroom anyway, let me know how it works out.
Member: Robb W.
Location: Mississauga,Ontario,Canada
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 5:33:21 PM
Hi everyone! Robb here, alcoholic. I read something about complicating things up there near the top of this page. I heard someone say something in a meeting once that brought home "easy does it" for me. He said if you ask an alcoholic for the time he will build you a watch!! That's all I can contribute for now. Wishing you all another sober 24 hours. Robb
Member: Juanita F
Location: pahrump nevada
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 8:50:11 PM
Hello Juanita alcoholic here .Help I cant get in AA club house chatroom add. is http://www.billh.org.chatnow.html does any one know what is wrong am I the only one haveing problems .Great topic this week thanks for being here Huggs to all, Lilbit
Member: jim av
Location: missouri
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 10:09:20 PM
hi jim alcoholic hello to the new people get to some f2f meetings. i dont think most of the problems which ever side of the page you are on. read the a.a. literature it has every answer for problems other than alcohol. singleness of purpose.requirement for membership. if than you still want to argue about it you might be in the wrong program.peolpe with woodend legs come to a.a. but most dont spend the time on it.the answer is in the books. since this isnt a meeting i have the same problem that some of the others have. when i got sober there wasnt any other 12 step program in my home town. (alanon was there.) stand up for what you believe but do it on facts not opinion. treatment centers put every body together because its cheaper not because we are the same . i base that last statement on 20 years in that business. i have used these 12 steps for many problems but i dont dicuss them in meetings. why worry about another program till you can work this one. i did that and i have been drug free for over 20 years
Member: Eileen
Location: Pa.
Date: 2/13/98
Time: 10:12:05 PM
Glen, just as Suzanne said, "you make so much sense." You can express so much in just a short paragraph. It's amazing! I have such a difficult time. I am so aware that God has taken over as I asked him to, but you are the tools he has used to get through to me. I remember one month ago getting ready to have a drink and couldn't do it because of the feedback I got from you and others. That was the last time I craved for any alcohol. Truly miraculous! How long have you been in AA? Never stop your comments. They have so much meaning to them. Suzanne, you are doing a fine job too. Barb. in NJ. I will keep coming back to let you know how I am doing. Thanks to all. PS. Glen I did remember what you posted thanks.
Member: David B.
Location: Idaho Falls
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 12:52:01 AM
I'm David, and I'm an alcoholic. I really like this site too. I get some way good direction from you drunks, especially when it's not directed at me. There's only one problem, I wanna say bad words and I can't bring myself to do it in this forum. I guess I may have to go a face to face meeting to relieve myself. Love you all, Thanks a lot.
Member: MIKE S
Location: OH
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 3:42:14 AM
hang in there jim it sounds like you are righton course for th amount of time you have in. come back and keep us posted on your progress. remember it's one day one hour one minute at a timewhatever it takes you to get over the urge'YOU CAN DO IT
Member: jim v.
Location: missouri
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 8:54:02 AM
hi still an alcoholic jim, and hi to david b. from idaho falls. my friend if they are barking at you its because you are in the lead . i like what you had to say and the way you said. its all in OUR books every question every answer. been sober since 1975 these folks who dont understand got that way because in the beginning no one told them who we are and what we are. sponsors come and go, just like the weather. it will always be are responsibility to SHOW the new person by example. when i was new no one could tell me anything. so i beat me to death sober and became willing to learn i had great teachers. sometimes all we get to preach to is the choir.
Member: David B
Location: Idaho Falls
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 12:25:15 PM
Juanita, the address you are entering is incorrect. it is www.billh.org/chatnow. that foreward slash makes all the difference in the world. if that doesn't work try a dot between org and the foreward slash.
Member: Erv W.
Location: Adams Wi.
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 2:11:59 PM
I think it was a great meeting this week.. If anyone can say I'm an ALCOHOLIC, it doesn't matter what else is wrong with us.. To all the new comers, I say keep coming back and to the old timers I say the same.. We need the wisdom you have learned.. But we also need to listen to the needs of the new comer.. Have a great weekend, love you all.. Erv
Member: Tech
Location: looking for brain
Date: 2/14/98
Time: 3:25:08 PM
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