Member: Barry L Staying Cyber Tech
Location: The World
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 1:24:30 AM

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Thanks to all Members for their patience in the last few weeks, We have had multiple problems but they should all be worked out now and the site should be functioning properly.

I did'nt get a chance to share on humility last week, but let me tell you maintaining this site can be good practice in acceptance.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 1:59:12 PM

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or powerlessness, or both.

Love the new headings, thanks


Member: Hubert J
Location: Galway Ireland
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 5:21:07 PM

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This is my first time accessing this site - I'am new to the web, in the fellowship some time. Nice to know this is available. Love to chat to any member - not sure how?


Member: Barry L
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 8:51:29 PM

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Welcome Hubert,

Complete instructions for how the site operates can be found on the Guidelines page. We don't have realtime chat here, but you can post messages back and forth with others in this area (Coffee Pot). The Current Meeting however is limited to discussion on the Topic of the week.

I am told about 150 years ago my family came from a village called Tinagh(?spelling) north of Galway, ever heard of it?

Have a happy 24!


Member: George M.
Location: Pocono's, Pennsylvania
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 8:55:35 PM

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Congratulations to Cherise D. and Barry L., two of our Trusted Cyrvants who are celebrating the miracle of sobriety this month. Cherise with two years and Barry with five years.

Congratulations on your sobriety. Keep on carrying the message.

Love,

George M.


Member: Jacque R
Location: Nebraska
Date: 1/11/98
Time: 11:25:54 PM

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Glen H.--I tried to go to the addresses you gave me last week for real time chatting regarding AA, but couldn't go anywhere. This in turn sent me searching into IRC's with instructions on how to get to some chat rooms that way. I don't get it...I mean, I didn't think I had to do anything special to get somewhere because I can get to Alamak Chat Rooms just fine. The IRC help sheets tell you what to type in to get to a certain server, they just don't tell you where to type it. Would you happen to know? Also, you seem to have gotten sober in the same sort of meeting as me...good 'ol hard core AA. I really enjoyed your comments last week in regards to those who aren't sure if they belong or not. Thanks.


Member: KAY, H
Location: 60 MILES EAST OF EDMONTON IN ALBERTA  CANADA. SMALL TOWN NAMED VEGREVILLE.
Date: 1/12/98
Time: 12:43:11 AM

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HI EVERYONE, kay from alberta in can. still an alcholic and sober by the grace of GOD and A,A. IT,S BEEN DARN COLD HERE !!!!!-35C. BRRRRR!!!!sure a great change from the plus side we had at xmas. but we,re not as bad off as the people in eastern canada and some of the places outside of canada. my prayers are surely with those people, as for myself and my husband it,s pretty warm by the fireplace. sure is good to know that our higher power is alway,s there no matter what the crisis and that sobriety is really a gift from GOD. i have only one really great priority in my life and the is not to take a drink and ask GOD to help me with that and you know what---- so far so good !!!!!A.A. IS ONE GREAT SUPPORT GROUP AND SO IS THIS SITE, KEEP WRITING AND I,LL KEEP COMING BACK. GOOD- NITE.


Member: PAT L
Location: KANSAS CITY, MISSOURI
Date: 1/12/98
Time: 12:36:00 PM

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Great work to the TECHS, Im also a tech and can relate to the stress level. GREAT WORK !

The streets here are iced over, no school the wife even stayed home. Lots of car wrecks.Im grateful to wake up sober, and smart enough not to get out in this crap. Going to have a nice day just hanging out at home playing games with family. Had an extremely stressful weekend. Hosted a wedding/reception, about 250 people by myself. Was at the church all weekend. Only came home to feed the dogs. Long hours, not much sleep. Ironic the topic was about anger, I NORMALLY would have blown up several times this week end, had I been drinking. I managed to keep a lid on my anger until I could call another alkie, and my sister (another recovering alkie). Im still new in sobriety, and hope I never stop learning about how it works. Its a life program to me and without everyones help,and my HP, would never make it. Thanks for being you, and being here. DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member: Peggy W.
Location: metro St. Louis
Date: 1/12/98
Time: 6:52:07 PM

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Hello, this is Peggy, a grateful recovering alcoholic. I'm leaving shortly for my home group and am so glad you are all here for me to check in for some serenity after work. The reading from the 12&12 which led the meeting has been very good for me . I am in some emotional pain and struggle lately and need to stay connected to meetings and to do a lot of praying and readings. Thank God that I know I can't do life by myself and learned that by surrendering when I came here. Jacque R., try www.billh.org/chatnow.html. Hubert, I am new to the web myself and have already made some AA friends through this Coffee Pot group by listing my e-mail address in my comment. Would love to chat with you about recovery and HP. Love to all.


Member: Catherine C.
Location: NY
Date: 1/12/98
Time: 9:28:30 PM

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Hi everybody. My name is Catherine and I am a real alcoholic! Though I prefer the bantering back and forth chat of AA rooms, I find this is a different kind of connection that seems like it will be fun! Does anyone know of any "chat" addresses other than those pesky AOL rooms where people constantly jump in and ask who Bill W is!? lol. I'm looking for something tangible. (though I'm so glad I found this) I wish you all well and plan to return often! Peace.


Member: Jacque R.
Location: Nebraska
Date: 1/12/98
Time: 11:28:20 PM

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Thanks a million Peggy W! That's a zany kind of spot...just my cup of coffee! It's important that I laugh at myself or life daily, else I get pretty bogged down. That's why I stay pretty close to those like me...see, I'm left-handed too, so that's kind of a double whammy!*lol* I seem to be so adept at going up and down that I must stay close to those in sobriety to find a balance. Then I become grateful and then, ta da, serenity! You are in my prayers for your emotional pain and struggles and, without a doubt, in the right place at just the right time. Or maybe, I just got to be in the right place at the right time, so I could meet you! Thanks again for the address. Take care.


Member: Eric E
Location: Lafayette  Louisiana
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 7:54:13 AM

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Hello All, Im Eric and I am an alcoholic. I really enjoy this site, whenever I have trouble during the day at work I can come to this site and see that I am not alone, that there is a soluition to all of my problems. The amazing thing I have seen is that the program works wherever you are. AA is my solution to life, thanks to all the techs who keep this site running..


Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 9:21:09 AM

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Catherine: Check the Online Intergroup site, which you can find by clicking the link on the "AA Links" page of this site. They list many chat meetings. (One that's been around for a while is "Lamplighters" on IRC.) Also, there are (or used to be) chat meetings on AOL that are organized and meet at certain times. Try a related keyword, and I think you'll find some information about times, locations, etc.

How are all you folks up north? Do you have power yet? Good wishes to you all, hope things will be better soon.


Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 9:23:54 AM

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And congrats to Barry and Cherise! A very happy anniversary to you both!


Member: E. D.
Location: Phila. Pa.
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 9:53:00 AM

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I usually don't have time to glance at a newspaper, but one day I did and found the web site for AA. I have been praying and I do believe God helped me to find this. I am still drinking, but have been trying to wean myself from about 3 drinks a day to one. I am sure I am an alcoholic. Just reading about everyone else made me happy that I am not alone. Someone wrote that they are afraid when they retire that they will have more time to drink. I feel I am in the same boat! Thanks for listening. I am new to this site. Eileen D.


Member: David C.
Location: Asheville, NC
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 10:22:47 AM

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Glad you are here Eileen. I'm David and I have NO doubt I am an alcoholic. I drank so much I could not get drunk anymore and that is a hell of a mess. Keep coming back. This is a guaranteed program. It has kept me sober for a few 24 hours now, and I stay that way one day at a time. I also have a home group in the physical world and attend it regularly. I am truly grateful to have cyber I can turn on any time I need to tie my ass down. Hope to see you back here.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 3:22:37 PM

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E.D. - we're all glad you're here. This program is for those people who are unable to control their drinking and wish to find a power greater than themselves that will help them STOP drinking. The way we do that is to not drink for one day at a time (some of us do it minute by minute).

See if you can find a local meeting and pray for the courage to go ! (and then go, of course). Please keep us posted as to how you're doing, because we'll be praying for you.

P.S. - Don't misunderstand what he meant by "this is a guaranteed program." It isn't, really, because only about half who come in the program stay sober. What is for sure is that if you follow all of the suggestions you will never have to drink again.


Member: Diana C.
Location: New York City
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 4:13:22 PM

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Hi everyone. First, thanks again to the techs who keep this place up. It's so well designed, and the content, of course, is great!

I volunteered for a service position where I chair a meeting for paroled felons who are mandated as part of their sentence to attend 12step meetings. They do not want to be there. I was wondering if any of you would have suggestions for me... I've done this a few times already. If there's even just one person who shows up who wants to be sober, it's worth it... but if not, I feel like I'm wasting my time and theirs.

How do you carry the message to people who don't want to admit they have a problem? It seems to me the Big Book advises you to work with people who want sobriety. Yet our legal system has set up this thing where people who don't want it must hear the message.

Any advice at all would be appreciated. Thanks, Diana C.


Member: frank b
Location: portland oregon
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 5:26:11 PM

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hi i'm frank and i am an alcoholic...to diana c in new york city...(next to God's will) service work is most important for me staying sober...i do a weekly meeting at the juvenile detention center here in portland oregon and i realize that the message of a.a. is the last thing those kids want to hear and no one can really measure any type of success...but if one kid gets sober something has been accomplished...if i didn't show up its like pappy smith once said "ya gotta send out players to get winners" if you don't play no one wins..if you play at least the message gets out there... maybe that's where hope starts.. sometimes i don't even want to show up but being sober for some years has taught me that i can't keep it unless i give it back in the form of love and service to other alcoholics who still suffer...

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Member: George M.
Location: Pocono's, PA
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 6:27:43 PM

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Diana C.,

I can identify with your frustration. There were a few times when I was on a commitment at the county prison that none of the inmates at the meeting wanted to hear what we had to share. The only reason they came was to get off the cell block for an hour. One time all the inmates were so disruptive that another person on the commitment said: if you don't want to have the meeting, we'll leave and you can all go back to your cells. After that we had a good meeting.

What I needed to remember was our Third Tradition, which states "The only requirement for A.A. membership is a desire to stop drinking". Which reminds me of something else. If they don't have a desire to stop drinking, they should only attend open meetings.

You can carry the message, but you can't carry the drunk. If something like that was going to threaten my sobriety, I would have to stop taking the commitment.

I hope you find a solution to your dilemma.


Member: Swede S
Location: New Jersey
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 6:58:56 PM

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My name is swede and I'm an alcoholic, for those of you who inquired about chat a great site is: www.billh.org/chatnow.html May the God of your understanding grant you all serenity,courage, and wisdom in the new year


Member: Lynne F.
Location: Sumner, WA
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 8:07:48 PM

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Hi, my name is Lynne and I'm an alcoholic. Glad to find the site. It's a great way to come down after a day at work -- while waiting for the time to come to go to one of my meetings.

Thanks for being here.


Member: EEileen D.
Location: Phila. Pa.
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 8:24:07 PM

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Thank you David and Glen for taking your time out to respond to me. It feels so good to be able to talk about and share it with people that have the same disease. This site has been a God sent. It has done wonders for me since Dec. I will try and get the courage to go to a local meeting. Of course, the fear of meeting people I know is my problem. Thanks for your prayers. Eileen PS Do you crave sweets when you don't drink, or is it just me?


Member: Ivan C
Location: Charlotte, NC
Date: 1/13/98
Time: 9:02:12 PM

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Hi I am Ivan an I am an alocholic. Great page for the traveler. The techies have out done themselves. Hope everyone in Canada, eh, is back on line. Here in CLT we lost power for 10 days with Hurricane Hugo. NOT FUN. Got first chip today looking forward to sober and straight in 98


Member: aaron w.
Location: somerset, n.j.
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 12:27:07 AM

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hi everyone i have not used my computer for several weeks and i miss you all very much. itr's nice to see that everyone is doing well. so happy new year to you all. i am really looking forward to another sober year. if no one told you i love you today. i love you.


Member: Louise W.
Location: Somerset, N.J.
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 12:40:22 AM

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Hello everyone, I am pleased to know that I can go online to get help when I need it. This is really great. I can remember oneday looking up into the sky and saying to myself, where can I go, I need help, I am lost, and in desperation I sought the help of AA, and the love and guidance that I received from everyone has brought me a mighty long way. Today I have so much gratitude because I certainly remember where I came from. I do intend on going online as much as I can and participating in conversations and hopefully carrying the message to the next suffering alcoholic.

I was just thinking to myself, that anyone can get help if they want it. God speaks to us in so many ways. I look forward to communicating with again. LOVE YA.


Member: Louise W.
Location: Somerset, N.J.
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 12:40:48 AM

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Hello everyone, I am pleased to know that I can go online to get help when I need it. This is really great. I can remember oneday looking up into the sky and saying to myself, where can I go, I need help, I am lost, and in desperation I sought the help of AA, and the love and guidance that I received from everyone has brought me a mighty long way. Today I have so much gratitude because I certainly remember where I came from. I do intend on going online as much as I can and participating in conversations and hopefully carrying the message to the next suffering alcoholic.

I was just thinking to myself, that anyone can get help if they want it. God speaks to us in so many ways. I look forward to communicating with again. LOVE YA.


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 9:24:07 AM

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Diana - I take a weekly meeting to a group of criminal justice people, most of whom would rather be using. Remember, though, most of us are initially shoved into AA by some circumstances, either by employers, spouses, family, the courts or by a miserable life. Somehow the message gets through to a lot of us, even though not always initially. Believe it or not, the success rate for mandatory attendees is almost the same as for those who "voluntarily" go to an AA meeting because life is great.

Remember the proverb about the wiseman who asked God to grant his one wish to go through life doing good things for people without knowing about it. God liked that idea so much he granted it to all of us.

Besides, you stay sober even if they don't.


Member: Diana C.
Location: New York City
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 10:07:50 AM

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Hi everyone -- Thanks to all for your comments and support regarding carrying the message. Frank, George, and Glen: your various service commitments really inspire me! To work in detention centers or jails is really a lesson in powerlessness and acceptance. I prayed last night before leading the meeting to just do God's work and will regardless of what my ego thinks or wants. I was reminded of that slogan, "Take an action and turn it over." I usually forget that second part.

And the big book makes it clear: we're really here to help others. That's our purpose. Wow! I thought my purpose was to get ego gratification. Wrong!

The meeting went great last night, better than ever. Everyone listened to the speaker and several guys shared openly. Wow.

Eileen D. - My heart and prayers go out to you. It's easy for any one of us to say "don't be afraid to go to a meeting... so what if someone you know sees you there?" But I remember when I felt like that too. I was very afraid of people finding out I was a drug addict or alcoholic. For me, as time has gone by I care less and less what other people think of me. What matters for me now is that I'm sober and I have choices. As long as you don't drink, you have so many more options! And if you go to a meeting, you'll find that there are people in the world who are willing to be there for you and help you stay sober one day at a time.

This fellowship is a tremendous gift. I hope you come to see that for yourself soon!

Good luck

Diana C. in New York


Member: Sophia R.
Location: Minnesota
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 6:33:16 PM

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Hi. My name is Sophia. I've been sober now since October 20th 1996. I just wanted to say happy New Year to everyone. I know its hard at times but its well worth the effort. I even learned how to smile again. Take care everyone.


Member: Dave S.
Location: The 18th green
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 10:44:27 PM

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Did you know that right before someone in Al-Anon passes away their alcoholics life passes before their eyes !!


Member: Jacque R.
Location: Nebraska
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 10:58:01 PM

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Hee, hee, hee, good one, Dave S.


Member: Hoser/ a.newcmr.         
Location: Queen City
Date: 1/14/98
Time: 11:20:31 PM

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I would like to say,"Happy Birthday", to; Dick W., who celebrated 43 yrs; His son, Rick, 6 yrs. (he's 1 of my sponsors!). And also Dicks' daughter, Judy, 11 yrs. Could it be true? What they say about OURS being a "family disease"? God bless----"YOURSELF",(God) ,for allowing me to have this wonderful family looking after my fruity a_ _! (God bless ALL of my family, in AA & NA.) I attend at least 1 mtg. almost every day. (with only 137 clean dys. to my credit, I gotta keep comin back!) Thank's HP, for lettin me get into so much trouble. I finally, (after 34 yrs. of addictions) turned to a better way of life! L-O-L to 1 & all. Kenny.


Member: Dave B.
Location: Arizona
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 12:36:55 AM

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Hi I'm Dave and I'm a GRATEFULL alchoholic.

To Diana: I was reached by a person like you who came into the institution I was mandated to and carried the message. It didn't reach me at the time but it did plant an annoying little seed I couldn't forget. One day (like all of us) I decided I had had enough. I called central office, found a local meeting, and am still going to that meeting today. Thank you for your service. While it may seem futile at the time, there may be one person like me who really needs to hear your message. In a related story my sponser spent most of his using life behind bars, and like me he heard the message from someone like you. In February he will celebrate 32 years! Sometimes the message does get through. E.D.: as was previously stated, this program is not for everyone but those willing to try the suggestions of this program often find success. Good luck!

I love my homegroup dearly, but it is refreshing to hear some new stories and comments from everywhere! God bless this site.

Dave


Member: MIKE S
Location: TOLEDO OH
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 3:42:32 AM

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to eileen by all meens find a meeting.the phone book is a good plce to start.look under AA and you will find a friend on the other end who is not there to judge you then GO to the meeting. YOU will find a room full of people like you.good luck and GOD bless. to diane i served two years on a hospital/treatment center comittee and often encountered your same problem.when this happen you can only plant the seedand if no-one else stays sober you do. and to all its great to be on line with with recovering alcoholics and am looking forward to getting to know more of you


Member: MIKE S
Location: TOLEDO OH
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 3:43:23 AM

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to eileen by all meens find a meeting.the phone book is a good plce to start.look under AA and you will find a friend on the other end who is not there to judge you then GO to the meeting. YOU will find a room full of people like you.good luck and GOD bless.

to diane i served two years on a hospital/treatment center comittee and often encountered your same problem.when this happen you can only plant the seedand if no-one else stays sober you do. and to all its great to be on line with with recovering alcoholics and am looking forward to getting to know more of you


Member: Jim H
Location: Leb. PA
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 6:30:34 AM

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Good Morning every one When I first got into AA I too was told to goto a meeting; that I would meet people there just me! I thought I don';t want to meet people there "just like me" because that would mean I'm " just like them"! But I found out that I was just like them... An Alcoholic! Eileen, please get to a meeting,just sit and listen. If what you hear rings a bell, then keep going back. I'm also afraid of meeting people,but yhe one thing I found out at an AA meeting is those people (us) are the nicest people you will ever meet. Good luck and thank you for sharing.


Member: PAT L
Location: KANSAS CITY MISSOURI
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 7:48:24 AM

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Hello, Im Pat and Im an alcoholic. Lots of good stuff here for me to use. I feel like a thief. I come here or to a meeting, listen to what ya'll say, figure this will help me reinforce my program, so I steal it, I keep it and it works. In this respect, crime does pay..for my program. Some say dont count your days some say yes do. Well, im gonna count them until I get to 90 days. Then hopefully, I will start counting in years. It is one day at a time, and often have to remind myself of this. This is a slow program. Also my HP works when he wants to, not necessarily when I want him to. So far, when a situation comes up for me, the best thing I can do is say the serenity prayer. Caught myself saying it several times yesterday. It works, pray it continues to work. My sponsor is an ole redneck, he always says keep it simple. (So he can understand whats going on in my life and he can help me ?) anyway, today I dont have to drink and for that I am thankful. Thanks to ya'll, and my HP. Very grateful. Pat DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member: Barbara S.
Location: NJ
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 9:50:41 AM

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Eileen: Thanks for being here! Newcomers to AA keep it alive and vital. One thing I realized after a while was that all the people at a meeting were there for the same reason I was! I hadn't really thought about it that way before. And yes, many people crave sweets.

Glen H: Loved that little proverb - haven't heard it before, and it really sums up what AA's all about, for me. (So you see, Pat, looks like you're not a thief after all! Just holding on to things until you can give them away yourself.)


Member: EiEileen D.
Location: Phila. Pa.
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 10:23:10 AM

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Thanks Diana, Dave B, Mike S, Jim H, and Barbara S. I realize just from chatting on this site that alcaholics are wonderful people. Just to take time out to help a stranger is TERRIFIC. I am still trying to get the courage to go to a meeting. I almost feel like traveling miles just to get to a different place, but that is stupid. I know I couldn't do this everytime I needed to go. Today, I am taking it 24hrs. at a time. I will keep on the site often an pay I can continue these days without a drink. Thanks again to all of you. With God's help and yours I know I will make it.


Member: Beth P.
Location: Montana
Date: 1/15/98
Time: 12:57:54 PM

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To Diana etal. I've been carrying the message in correctional facilities since 1981. It's simple, it keeps ME sober. Anything in addition to that miracle is a bonus. Hey, if corrections isn't for you, try treatment centers or participate in a "bridge the gap" temporary contact program in your area, district. There are many, countless, ways to be involved with service work. The end result is the smae, it keeps ME sober. Yep, I'm selfish, but it works, and there have many BONUSES along the way. These bonuses are the GOD given gifts in my life. It does get better and better and better...


Member: PAT L
Location: KANSAS CITY MISSOURI
Date: 1/16/98
Time: 12:39:38 AM

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HI, This is Pat L, Im an alcoholic. I have just a short question. What does one do for a sponsors birthday? My sponsor is coming up on 8yrs on the 18th. I want to do something special without either of us getting embarrased...much. I only have 71 days sobriety and dont know what people do for birthdays. Cake? card? Someone give me a funny idea. My insanity makes me brain dead and is dulling my creativity. In other words, I havent learned how to have fun sober...yet. Please email me with suggestions. DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member: Eileen D.
Location: Phila. Pa.
Date: 1/16/98
Time: 9:36:16 AM

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Hi Pat, enjoy reading your comments. You have 71 days and I have 1. I think we both have that little bit of Irish in us. Hang in there. I think you're doing great. God bless. Eileen


Member: PAT L
Location: KANSAS CITY MISSOURI
Date: 1/16/98
Time: 1:28:49 PM

Comments

Hello again, This is Pat L.

Eileen, Philadelphia is my hometown. Never thought I would say it, but I miss it. Its one day at a time. Say your prayers, go to meetings, read the big book, work the steps, call your sponsor and say your please and thank you's. Thats all I do, keeping it as simple as possible. When you're sick and tired of being sick and tired, then your ready to receive what the alcoholics have. "you are where you are because you're doin what you're doin" If ya dont like what you're doin, then change it. It took me 20 years of drinkin to get it right. And I realized it wasnt right at all. Therefore it is gonna take some time, not 20 years I hope, to get the sobriety right as well, and I think this is fair. Go to church to save your soul, Go to AA to save your ass ! Developing spirituality has been a key factor for me. Not religion, but an understanding of MY WILL and how my higher power can help me with it. His will. My will is to party, so its no good. Asking my God for help not to let my will rule, but for him to step in and help me. I still get screwed up with this stuff and thats ok, Im sober and today, thats all God wanted from me anyhow. God knows me, and loves me. Today, Im sober, Today Im gonna be good to me. Im like a kid in a candy shop, I love it here. Write to me, questions,comments,rude remarks...I read it all and use it. grateful, DIRTYFERTY@HOTMAIL.COM


Member: Anna T.
Location: southern California
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 1:00:22 AM

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Hi Everyone! Eileen D. WELCOME!!! I think it is perfectly normal to crave sweets when you are coming off alcohol. Alcohol, from what I understand, is a type of sugar. I would suggest eating fruit as well. It will give you the sugar but it's not such a shock to the system as sweets but sweets are alright too. Hang in there. I ate a lot of sweets when I first got sober. I still have a sweet tooth. I've had one since childhood. when I attended my very first AA meeting, I picked up on differences. I was "not that bad" I didn't get a dui so that's why I thought I wasn't that bad. I drank more but I didn't get a dui because I drank at home and popped pills at home, and I drove under the influence but didn't get caught. That's a yet for me which I don't care to fulfill. I don't want to drink, and that's what I'm getting at. I hjope you will go to a face 2 face meeting and listen for the similarities between you and others. If you belong to AOL, there is AA online which has meetings and chat between meetings. I hope to see you here again. If you want another alkie to write to, here is my Email: Markusenko@aol.com If anyone wants to write, please do so. Please though, no chain letters. Pat, how are you? I remeber talking to you before. Are you able toi get in the meetings you need now days? It's good to be here again. I wasn't able to get here forawhile because the browser wasn't working, but my dad reinstalled Aol and everything is working again. Bye for now. Anyone from southern California?


Member: Kerry B.
Location: Idaho
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 2:42:03 AM

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Yes, Southern California born and raised. Moved to Idaho. I miss So. Cal AA alot. Glad to have found this site. Glad to hear from everyone, computers have been down. I love sobriety!!! KCB


Member: Rich G in WA
Location: Washington State
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 2:42:30 AM

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I'm a real alcoholic called Rich

Hi everyone!!!

Congrats to all the celebrants for January!!! keep up the good work (-:

I have heard it said time & time again <as well as seen it here in print> that alcoholism is a "family disease". Can ANYBODY show me in A.A. literature what page that is on??????

I agree that "the family may suffer, too", meaning from MY alcoholism, but I do not take that to mean that THEY have the disease. Only that they suffer from me, and the great I am!

So, if you would be so kind to point out the right page to me, I will change my views (and maybe so will a few million other REAL alkies

Thank you, all

And His love & peace be with you all.

Special hellos to Miss Judy in Maine, and that dear sweet Miss Joanie in Pa


Member: Nancy P
Location: Woodbury, NJ
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 8:52:25 AM

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My suggestion is to read Chapter 9 in the Big Book which is called the Family Afterward. I felt like you did in the beginning. I didn't think I hurt or affected anyone but myself. Gradually, I have come to realize how my alcoholism has changed the people around me. Just read the chapter.


Member: Eileen D.
Location: Phila. Pa.
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 9:32:36 AM

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Thanks Anna T. for sharing this info. with me. It's been a tremendous help hearing from everyone. It is only day 2, but hey I am happy. I had tried to give it up before, but almost resented doing it. I have a different feeling now. God knows I have prayed for this to happen. I had alot of the same feelings that you had. I felt that I may not be like most alkie's, but then when I wanted to stop I couldn't. I know I am an alcoholic and want to be a recovering one. I took down your E mail so I can chat every so often. Thanks again. Eileen


Member: Glen H
Location: Denton, TX
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 12:47:22 PM

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Rich - I think that you already know the answer to your question, and it is that there is nothing in AA literature that states the family has the disease as well.

It comes from the same people who coined the phrase "90 meetings in 90 days", which of course isn't in the Big Book either. The flip side of that is, though, that quite a lot has been learned about alcohol and addiction since the third edition, and it might well be prudent to be open minded.

If you really want, I can point you to some literature that discusses this, although it isn't conference approved.


Member: Dave Z.
Location: Coast of Maine
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 6:50:17 PM

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Greetings to Perry, Barry, Joanie, George, and anyone else that I've missed of my Pocono-ian AA buddies. Would have commented sooner but we are in the middle of a disaster area but we are all survivors of much worse as you well know. Nice work on this site by the way but that's all I'll say because we don't want you to get too big-headed about it! We'll save that for another topic. If anyone cares to write Perry has my e-mail address I would appreciate hearing from y'all from down south! Take care be good and all the best in '98!


Member: Anna T. 
Location: southern California
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 7:07:53 PM

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Hi everyone. Someone said it already...a chapter in the BB called the Family Afterward. There is scientific evidence showing that alcoholism can be passed from one generation to the next. There is a genetic link. Eileen, hope to hear from you sometime. Kerry, where in southern California did you live, if you don't mind me asking? what high school did you go to? talk to you all later.


Member: Barry L
Location: pocono-ian??????
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 9:24:29 PM

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Dave Z. about time you got here, its funny even as you were posting I was at the 6:30 meeting in Readers asking Tommy D. if He has heard from you. E-mail me at tech@stayingcyber.org so I can get your address. Stay sober and watch the ice.


Member: Tech
Location: in my office
Date: 1/17/98
Time: 10:20:50 PM

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