Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:48pm
I'm so sorry Gang, I have not been on the CP as I have a deep personal sadness to deal with.
I don't know what to say ot how to say it, but ((((ART's)))) wife JEANNE asked me just now to post.
Art is in his last hours or days with us. He was supposed to not make it through the night, he did.
He wants to go home so bad to die and he can not, it would then be a matter of hours if he makes it at all.
ART got another heart attack this Sunday after he had checked himself out of the hospital last Friday. He stopped dialysis the next day, Saturday, as it felt if he was dying and drowning on that dialysis table.
Sunday late called 911 and he went straight into ICU where he still is.
I have to share when I talked to (((ART))) Saturday or Sunday, he is at peace! He took care of everything he needed or wanted to take care of the last few days at home ... and by his own words: "Let the chips fall where they may". Art is tired!
Jeanne, his wife, came back to their home again 2 days ago and Art's longtime AA friend Wally has power of attorney. I'm so sad to say that Art is ready, my vibrant friend, Italian stallion and general pain in the arse at times. Thank you for your true friendship ((((ART)))) I have thoroughly enjoyed the few years I have known you!
(((ART))) you and (((SANDERS))) have given me such great memories to last the rest of my earthly life. Forever grateful and they can never be taken away.
The Duker, The Gator and the Texan on a Road trip going a tad 'sideways' to never be forgotten. TRUE friends through thick and thin. (((((THANK YOU ART))))) for everything. I hope I was 1/2 the friend to you as you were to me.
I agree 100% with your decisions, though it hurts like hell to say farewell my buddy.
You will leave a big hole in my heart which is full of tears. We all have to go sooner or later, but hell it hurts for the ones left behind.
JEANNE will take the dogs Patches and Cocoa with her to Montana when the time comes, as the dogs know her and they have acres and acres to roam in a fenced in area.
His son in Portland, Oregon has started a brandnew job and is ready to get married. He called ART send him a Father's Day card recently.
As (((ANNIE K))) would say, I love you Arty-Farty, as most of us do, with our whole heart!!
PS: ===== Added ===== ART LOVES us here at the Coffee Pot, in lucid moments he is still concerned with SANDERS and all of us! We ARE his family, that's how ART ALWAYS felt about us.
In prayer and acceptance, Ardis
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: beth k
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 10:59pm
Ardis, thank you for sharing with us. Prayers for Art, his family and friends.
Mary, I am doing the same for you guys just didn't post it yet....
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Thanks for the gifts of sobriety,
B
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: 30 June 2005 at 11:58pm
Oh Ardis.
I love you Art
I only wish you could have seen with me tonight Art, thousands and thousands of alcoholics in the park, three bands, music everywhere, everyone smiling, complete strangers greeting each other as long-lost friends.
I wish you could have seen with me a lady member of Polish AA dancing to "Alberta Bound" with a long-haired bandana'd member that I'd seen previously in the Native-American hospitality suite, I wish you could have been there because I got shivers all up and down my body. This is a great fellowship and a great program.
And I'm so glad one of the benefits for me is that I get to call Art P my friend. I love you my friend.
Posted By: SoberKat
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 12:11am
Ardis - thank you for sharing that with us.
Art - I love you too - my knight in shining armor. For those of you who didn't know, I lost all my files on my computer a year ago, and Art rode in on his white horse and told me about a program to retrieve them. He will be listed in the acknowledgement section of my book as my hero and friend.
You just never know the power we all have to touch each other's lives and make a difference. Thank you for being that for me Art.
Mary - I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost my father-in-law ten years ago and I still miss him like crazy.
Well guys... I'll be gone for a spell. I'm leaving tomorrow for San Francisco. My son is going to a baseball camp at Stanford. I get home on the 7th and then leave on the 8th for the National Speakers Conference in Atlanta.
Am talking with my agent tomorrow morning about the publisher interested in my book. Say a prayer for me will ya??
I'll miss you guys so much. I'm going to google meetings in San Fran, so I can stay connected and on the beam.
I love you all. You have all played such an important part in my life and in my sobriety.
God bless and see you all in a couple of weeks.
GIANT HUGS!
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Faith, Hope & Love,
Kat
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:39am
ARDIS - reading your share earlier, I couldn't cry & post at same time.
Sonny is also very saddened, we both admire Art so much. (plus, he's losing his partner in crime at the Church of the Stolen Apples! :(
At the 1st CP Gathering we'd joined in on in Savannah, Art, Frank, Robin & Sonny & I sat up most the whole night yakking away. Sonny was recently done the Interferon treatment he'd been on thru his 1st yr sobriety - & Art passed on so much good stuff that was exactly what Sonny needed to hear & have explained by someone so willing to take the time for him.
I loved being present for that all-night informal mtg - & so surprised - really impressed getting to know Art f2f & discover what a spiritual giant! hadn't expected that at all! ;)
AA in action, just as oldtimers who were willing to give of their time for me when new.
And such a hell-raiser & practical joker! full of laughs & fun every gathering & get together!
And - ohhh, the Italian foods! boy could he cook!
(((ART))) ~ thank you for being you!
Prayers w/you & w/all your loved ones.
Posted By: john t
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:39am
May the sun always be at your back, the wind in your face, and the highways smooth. Ride on, Art!!!!
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Hillbilly John
Posted By: Herb S.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 2:24am
((((Mary and her family))))
((((Art and his family)))
((Kat)) Thanks for the Reiki info; have a good time on your trip.
((Joni)) ((Jan)) and everyone else in Toronto, I'm thinking about ya.
((Wee Anne)) Hoping for a speedy recovery for you.
See you guys in a few days; I gotta go talk to some trees! :-)
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Herb
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:15am
(((PAM))) I was going to call you too last night and a few people more like ROBIN, TIM V and GAGE.
I called several here, however, I ran out of time by midnight and most of all out of stamina. Could not do it anymore so sorry to say.
Could not really sleep, prayed my heart out "God's Will be done" and woke up every hour to a soaking wet pillow. I was not aware I can cry in my sleep. Thought about all our gatherings and the fun we had, the genuine LOVE between us all when together, no matter if there were currents too, it was always to be okay in the end. FAMILY! ART enjoyed that so much!
I have so many good memories, like so many of us, that bring smiles to my face, enough for a life time and beyond, Bless those gatherings and the people that attended, ART just loved them.
Funny thing, Art and I just planned a quickie gathering this past Saturday for the coming week for a few people that had shown interest to do that, like saying farewell. ART was all for it, started arranging the sleeping places out loud as he has room enough and beds too! Sunday he changed his mind as he did not feel good and had a notion that it might be a chaotic week. So correct he was sorry to say.
I did not make any calls today as I did not know what had happened overnight until later in the day. I also have my 17 month old cutie patootie to babysit, impossible to call with that little peanut around.
So please if I did not call, nothing personal with anyone as too much for me!
I also had lost track of Art for 2 days and I finally found him in ICU to my shock and to some near him too!
I did talk to SANDERS, almost immediately when I found out, after I called my stable sister (((GERI))). SANDERS took it well, going home in about 10 days, bless his heart. Nothing can be done right now about his right hand shaking so badly, so I told him when I go to visit him I'll bring all the old bibs from Cutie Patootie to him! -LOL-
The range of emotions are something else, I'm probably just jibbering, forgive me, that's me in a situation like this. The mind going a mile and a half a second. Then Al-Anon kicks in and says ... when in doubt, DON'T!
It's so good to experience that OUR Program kicks in automatically even with turmoil inside. Bless AA and our HUGE family here.
I'll keep you updated on major changes.
I'll send JEANNE the link to the CP so she can read how loved our ART is and maybe pass it on in lucid moments, if do desired.
Love to all here family!! Ardis
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: Shannon
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:55am
I think it is more a thing about my sister than Reiki. Thought about
that quite a bit last night. I am so ready to discount anything my
sister is into and that is old family crap that has yet to be dealt with.
I am sorry still, Kat, because I kept thinking, even with my apology
that I sounded critical. And I think I actually am. But it has nothing
to do with the practice, really. I don't know - I can't get past the
sister stuff. I have a tendency to toss that at inappropriate parties.
I have had a pretty intense day. Full of really neat revelations about
me, and a good friend. We had such an amazing afternoon.
Following that, I needed to nap. So now I am wide awake - oh yes,
yet again - in the middle of the night. I do really wish I could be in
Toronto right now. That would be so cool. But I am not. Here I am.
Had a good day.
Kelly M -- the newly crowned teen is in summer school, mandatory.
So I have only the smaller guy for most the day and looking to get
him into day camp. I have, though, really been enjoying some one
on one with him. He sure seems to need it right now too. He is very
unpredictable and one day is great and the next - it's hell. I still
don't want to give him any medication and lately, those fears have
been reinforced by all the news...thanks Tom Cruise, I guess...for at
least vocalizing that we need to really know before medicating. I do
kind of seriously dislike him as an actor though, and the whole
Scientology thing, which I know more about than I really care to.
I am glad his doctor is a Buddhist. He's a neat doctor and I need to
talk to him...soon.
Anyway,
I need a job!
Love to you All.
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"There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered." ~ Nelson Mandela
Posted By: Phil A
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 4:26am
I'm saddened to hear about ((Art)) and the worsening of his condition. The world will have one gem less and he truly is a gem. Thanks for being there when I got that suicide call from the States a few years ago and thank you for not mentioning it even when it got ya in trouble for a false callout. All I can say about Art is he's one of life's nice guys even if he appears rough around the edges at times, he'll be a great loss to his family, community and the community of AA. When his time comes I know he'll be walking with the angels, dishing out his brand of humour and teaching them a few things about humility.
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Failuire ain't a word unless it means not trying.
mailto:geordie275@blueyonder.co.uk - Phil
Posted By: Trace
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 7:27am
(((ART)))
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mailto:vague_trace@yahoo.co.uk - Trace's email
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
Posted By: Carlos Roig
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:29am
Art will be ascending soon to a place where he will feel no pain and there will be no alcohol problem to work on. His wit and charm and often acerbic words will be missed around here. I liked the way he always expressed what he really thought and didn't give a hoot what others said about it! On to greater worlds and a happiness unknown to us earthly beings!
Have a great sober day!
sallie g
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 9:24am
Morning Friends,
Ardis, Thanks for the tribute to Art. I will miss his posts about him and the mutts. I really wish I could have met him. He seemed to always take life on lifes terms and was kind.
Ardis, Please accept my condolences and relay them to Arts wife Jeanne and his son. I'm so glad she will take good care of the dogs. It was so nice of her to come stay with him even through his illness. She sounds like a wonderful lady. Ardis, Please take care of (you) as sad as this is for you. It isn't easy losing a good friend, No sir, it isn't. Just remember all those good memories and all the love. Thank you for taking the time to keep us all updated.
((Art)), I love you man! I am a bit jealous you get to meet ((God)) soon. I hear he is the Prince of Peace and all Love and Light. Enjoy eternal life and whatever the next chapter brings.
"Rejoice, and be exceedingly glad, For great is your reward in heaven".
Matt: 5
Kelly :)
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"Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance!"
Posted By: Kim D.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 9:28am
Oh no... (((((Art))))))).
I'd like to add that when I spoke with him a few weeks ago during his first hospital stay, Art said that he was ready then and that if it was his time, then so be it. "I've had a good ride, Kim" were his words.
I'm crying and at work so not a good combo. Gotta go. I know what you were talking about now ((Annie K.)). This stinks.
Love you (((((((((Art P.)))))))).
Posted By: Mark W.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 9:55am
(Art)
Tears came after the news. Been reading his input for years. Ate some of his cooking in Idaho several years back. Cannot ever forget the wisdom he passed along to us all, but myself in particular. Seeing how he lived it will remain an inspiration to me.
Mark W.
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Willingness, honesty and open mindedness are the essentials of recovery. But these are indispensable.
Posted By: Mel
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 10:44am
Hi family, Mel here alkie and addict.
My heart is breaking that my footsie buddy {{{{{{{{Art}}}}}}} is in pain. Sanders has that great picture at the house of Art standing on a chair (I think it was in Williamsburg or Nashville, can't remember) next to Sanders, and Sanders was still taller than Art. Our spiritual giant! I am going down to visit Sanders Saturday so he can hang out with Little Fella and get online with all you good people. Will update you further once I speak with the nurses and see how he is doing.
Much love to you all.... my heart is so heavy with sadness right now. Hey "Mom" give me a call or I'll try to call you.
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Love and Light,
Mel
mahvelousmel@hotmail.com
Posted By: Wee Anne
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 10:50am
I'm home!! For today and tomorrow and maybe Sunday. Got nurses in for dressings,drugs and advice. So glad to be here.
Art-If you get to see this my message to you is, fly free and never ever stop loving. I love you. As a man you are amazing but as an angel you'll be awesome!!
Glad to see everyone else is ok,special prayers for Mary,the lady I was next to before my op didnt make it either and just like your family hers were devastated.
Geez the world sure looks different in 2D,I keep missing things and Joe says I'm off coffee duties till I am safe with the kettle!! Good stuff coz we drink gallons a day. I start a short course of chemo on Monday and not looking forward to it at all but if it gives me an extension on a sober life its a bargain I cant refuse. Have a lot of pain but it should go and I guess an eye socket is gonna be a really soft spot,a lady in the ward says hers still gives phantom pains after 8 years. Like I said its of no importance in the big picture and I just need to get on,I've been told one of the worst things is seeing it for the first time and another is cleaning out the socket-I'll leave it to the nurses for now but it will have to be faced eventually. Gotta go,I'm not supposed to look at tv,screens now in case I strain the other one so manyana for now but I'll be back.
John the Biker Guy-I loved your sharing, Got a feeling your gonna be a pal.
Conan says Hi- my baby boy was 28 years old yesterday,didnt have a great birthday very quiet but we will make that up to him soon as.
Going,going GONE
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A freudian slip?When you say one thing but mean your Mother....
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:19am
(((WEE ANNE))) - prayers & positive vibes continue to hold you up from all of us - so much you've been having to endure & go thru! You & your loved ones.
HAPPY 28th BIRTHDAY (((CONAN))) !!
No worry (((ARDIS))) - you're way beyond what I'd be able to handle or even think of, you're doing fabulous! & others know that, too - its a "we" thing. PAT the Heretic had emailed me after seeing my inquisitive post yesterday afternoon. (thank you, Pat :)
I've finished off 2 boxes of kleenex & now I have to bring the t.p. roll to my desk every time I read in here again! (till get to the store tonight)
The shares are beautiful, tho - all the comments & memories - so much love! ART gave so much love, it naturally comes back to him :)
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: bill j
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:36am
Had the good fortune to meet Art at 5 of our gatherings and really enjoyed the little guy (SS) Short shit and will miss him and his jokes. We did not always agree but were always agreeable and that is how it should be.
In December @ Panama City Beach saturday night befor he spoke Sunday morning we spent most of the night talking and petting the Dogs in his room. He will always be our Spiritual Giant. An avrage guy carring the message in the best fashion by his actions. He really loved people. and I really loved the little guy.
Well if I make it to the big meeting in the sky there is already a bunch of my friends there. I am ready also when God work for me is done here for it has been one hell of a ride but getting to meet people from the CP has been the high point.
Hope everybody has a fun time in Toranto. Love bj
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I have a DESIRE to not drink today bj
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:37am
Ran across two interesting posts today while looking for other stuff
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Member: Sheryl
Location: Ga
Date: 07 Mar 1999
Time: 02:21:01
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Evening..
Strange day. Off early for a change. Came home, biding my time till meeting time. Was watching a movie, Delores Claborne..was watching a girl in it pour a scotch, and WHAM.. the urge hit... big time. Then the tape started.. ya'll know the one.. "Hmm, well if I just didnt drink at home, and only had 2 or 3 it would be ok". My mind ran with that for a few minutes, gaining strength the whole time. Thing is, I never wanted to only have a couple.. I drank because of what it did to me, stopping befroe that happened always seemed to defeat the purpose somehow. Bout 10 minutes into this, I almost had myself convinced that it would all be ok if I just drank occassionally. To the point of actually thinking of getting in my car and going somewhere to have one. I had rejected the idea of calling anyone, cause in my mind, I didnt need to , I mean, it was gonna be ok right? Then, still sitting there, I started thinking about the last night I drank. And how I felt. One thought led to another, and I remembered all the times I was gonna have just a "couple" and ended up blacked out. I asked, once again, for HP to give me just a little relief from these thoughts. The thought did not go away, but what came to mind was to get up and go on down to the meeting. Thats what I did. Sat thru the meeting, told them what was on my mind, and hung out for couple hours after listening to the noodlers on their guitars and talking. I feel better now. I dont want to have a couple. It also occured to me while listening to them play , that non alcoholics would not be bothered by not having any. Kinda shot my whole theory about I could have acouple.
As fucked up as my thinking is, I am glad it is not up to me to keep me sober. I just gotta want it more than a want a drink. Someone reminded me of that tonight. I am glad that for today, I do.
Peace
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Glen H
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:38am
and this
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Member: Art P.
Location: New Bern
Date: 08 Mar 1999
Time: 22:19:03
Comments
Finished my quilting class today, but still have to hand stitch the binding. Kinda proud of myself, because I don't usually finish a project. But I plan to have this shipped to Mt. well in time for my daughters birthday. "By the inch it's a cinch."
Related to Mouses story about the man who has cancer. A friend of mine who came into the progam about nine years ago is undergoing a second series of cemo. Talk about miracles, when he first arrived he was filled with anger. (Fear) We thought if he ever smiled his face would crack. And today inspite of the pain and suffering he endures, he alway has smile ready even if it's him were picking on. The first retreatment, he took two weeks ago ended up with him in the hospital for 5 days. He's due for his second treatment tomorrow, and they decided to keep him in the place all day to monitor him. So if ya'll would, please say a prayer for 'Tugboat' that he will do well tomorrow. Thanks. And I will keep all of you in my prayers.
This has a ring to truth to it....at least as far as I'm concerned.
Ad seen in the The New York Times last week...
FOR SALE BY OWNER
Complete set of Encyclopedia Britannica. 45 volumes. Excellent condition. $1,000.00 or best offer. No longer needed. Got married last weekend. Husband knows everything.
God bless all us sick puppy/ette's
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((prayers))
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Glen H
Posted By: Jan BB
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 1:20pm
God Bless our sick puppy ((((ART))))
My love to all,
jan
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"Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you." -- Maori proverb
Posted By: Kim D.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 2:13pm
I'm right with you (((((Pam)))))... everytime I log on here I'm reaching for my tissues and crying in my cubicle.
When Dyl's Daddy left, I was a mess for quite a while. It was the CP'ers here that helped me keep my sanity and got me working on the Steps so I'd get better and not stay stuck. There's many wonderful people here at this CP, I tell ya.
I want some more rants about the "shrub." Boy o boy.. talk about laughing. Never a post goes by without a smile or a smirk or a LOL written my Mr. P. God Bless you ((((((Art))))))). You're in my prayers fine Sir.
My boys are home from camping, so my mini vacation is over. Micro is done too... so now it's some R&R for Kim (from studying). Sorry ((Herb))... don't mean to rub it in! ;-)
((Ardis)) Hugs to you. ((Wee Anne)) Rest easy. IMHO there's nothing wrong with letting the nurses change your dressing until you are emotionally ready. For some reason I thought Conan was a wee boy... teenager. He's 28?
K'den. Need to go wipe the mascara off my cheeks. Love to ((everyone)) here and in Toronto. It's a "we" thing.
Love and sad hearts,
Kim D.
kimtuck67@hotmail.com
Posted By: Shannon
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:13pm
(((((((((Art)))))))))
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"There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered." ~ Nelson Mandela
Posted By: KellyF
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 3:42pm
Just checked in here and my heart is pounding too hard and tears welling in my eyes for ((Art)). I'm so grateful to have met him in Idaho and to have talked to him a few weeks ago in the hospital. He told me he wanted me to give him skating lessons when he got well.
I love you ((Art)). I'll never forget the kindness you showed me in Idaho and the phone calls at Christmas last year and the year before when I was suffering with a cancer surgery of my own.
((Art)) will always touch us deeply and my thoughts are with each of us and our memories as it is love that binds us in sadness and gladness.
Posted By: FrankD
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 7:22pm
Great day to be Sober Everyone!
(((Art))) A damn good friend, a beacon of light helping show me the way. Friggin tears in my eyes.
It was my great pleasure to meet Art in person at four gatherings, Savannah, Idaho, North Carolina, and the Pocono's. Solid AA, Great cooking, (except in the Pocono's, where the hotel wouldn't let him use the kitchen, :) ).
Prayers for him and family. I'll miss him, until I see him again on the other side....
Thank you all for helping me stay Sober today!
Frank
Posted By: Norm C.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:01pm
(((Art))) His contributions to the Coffee Pot will be missed by all of us.
Norm C.
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Norm C.
Posted By: cec h
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:41pm
ah dam, (ART)
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What a strange long trip it's been.
Posted By: Andrew A.
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:53pm
(((Art)))
Going to miss you buddy.
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Love that learning curve.
Posted By: paxaa
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 8:59pm
(((Ruthanne)))
Everything is OK. It's all good.
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Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists.
Herein lies the Peace of God.
Posted By: Gage
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:03pm
((Art)), thank you for helping me stay sober.
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Improve reality.
Posted By: Bill S
Date Posted: 01 July 2005 at 11:05pm
Hi all-
((((ART))))
Sanders get well buddy. Shirley and I will be in Florida next month and will be up to see you and Little Fella again. I love you man and thank you for being my friend !! Love to all--
Bill
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Thank you for being my friend !!!
Posted By: Sheryl
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:00am
Evening all
Glen,LOL where on EARTH did you find that! Amazing! I don't remember writing it, but I do remember that I drank after 30 days on St Patricks Day that year. So, what do you think? Have I made any progres?? LOL.
Was sad to hear about Art. Ive been away from the CP for a few years, but I seem to remember him always posting a rule 62 post. Always made me smile. Its easy to see by reading the posts how he will be missed.I wish peace for him and his family.
Sheryl
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Music is the voice of the heart in search of God. ~unknown
Posted By: cec h
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:26am
Hi all, said I'd be back today. Sure donn't like the news about Art. So whom do I call now when I want to piss off my wife? Art and I laughed over that one everytime I called him. He always ended our talks with " luv ya guy". Sure hope he knew it was mutual. Annie got the book,putting it into action as I type. Got more to say,but going to look at pictures from Idaho Falls. Mabey tomorrow. Hello Mars,
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What a strange long trip it's been.
Posted By: AnnieK
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 12:41am
Evening, Potooties...
Thanks ((Kim)) and ((Paxaa)). I know.
Had to go pilfer water out of the pond and water the plants again tonight. The damned rain keeps skipping over us. lol Boy...NEXT year, when I have city water, I'm gonna be one garden-growin' fool!!! I'm envisioning a Paradise of flowers and veggies and even a water garden. With a little cherub peeing into the pool. I'll call him ((((((ART))))))))
Jeannie--if you're reading this, tell that man I love him. And I wish him all the peace there ever is, anywhere.
((Ardis and Pat)) Thanks, pals. We are all so blessed to have known each other and been able to spend time together f2f with ((Art)) and everyone else here. My favorite picture is the one of ((Art and Sanders)) with the red plaid tams on that ((Ye)) brought from Scotland. That was Nashville wasn't it? What a bunch!! The last time ((Art)) came to visit the Blue Ridge he brought those wonderful mutts and he looked so tired. I asked him how he was feeling, and he said he thought his time was about done. I'll ever remember his lasagnas and his apple pies and him and ((Sonny)) at the Church of the Stolen Apples. God bless you, my friend.
Don't know if I can post much more. I have those "tears running down into my ears" like he used to talk about in his story of getting sober.
I'll come back later....
anniek
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"Faith dares the soul to look beyond where the eyes can see." -Tolkien
Posted By: Mindy B
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:13am
((((((((ART)))))))))) Have a great flight with the Angels! When you are free plz fly over and visit me and my mutts! The CP will never be the same.
I turned 15 yrs sober the Sat, of the Idaho Falls gathering. Sanders and Art and Ardis took me to see Yellowstone and 1 geyser. Then Art cooked and we had a proper birthday bash. I am blessed to have been able to meet Art and Sanders f2f and all you great folks on this site. You have changed my life and I love you all.
I have been afraid to read here. Fear what a stupid overblown symptom of this dis ease. Huggles Mindy
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Huggles M
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 2:08am
OMG, It is sooo late. I'm going to pay for this tomorrow, I mean later today.
Glen, I just wanted to thank you again for the links on the convention page. I was following links from those links and found a telephone directory of my grandparents in Ogdsensburg, NY from the 40's. I also believe I found my great, great grandmothers grave in Canada. "Dadey" is a very unusual name, it was shortened from "McDadey". They were from Ottowa, Canada originally.
Very interesting factual information about my family!
Thanks Again,
Kelly :)
http://ogdensburg.info/webphotos/nda-do1942.jpg - http://ogdensburg.info/webphotos/nda-do1942.jpg
http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/cemeteries/info.php?ID=19266 - http://www.ogsottawa.on.ca/cemeteries/info.php?ID=19266
Posted By: Brian B
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 3:45am
Art, what can I say? Joking buddies; there was a time when I'd get 10 e-mails, and they were all jokey stuff from Art..... so sad to hear of his condition,
See thee, Brian.
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DOS, 7th July 1968. Still active in AA, home group, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Retired Brit, Humanist with Buddhist leanings. Known to argue with rabid 'God Squad' zealots.
Posted By: Gabrielle
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 8:04am
Gabrielle grateful recovering alcoholic.....
(((((((((((Art)))))))))))))))) One of the few real men I have met in my life. How honored I feel to have known you and how sweet the memories of all the laughs and good times. God keep you today and always......
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I cannot fail until I stop trying
In Sobriety, In AA, In Life
Gabrielle
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 8:26am
Sheryl, have you made progress? Well..yeah, haven't we all?? I thought you'd enjoy that when I ran across it.
I always identified with you in those days, when I came in..the first time, or maybe the second, lol..AA was really good deal, except but this and except for that and if only AA would do this differently and you know I really, really don't drink quite like you because see I still have this good professional job and...
you reminded me of me, intellectualizing everything on one hand and just plain angry on the other..Yvonne was that way (whereizzer anyway?.. has anyone got word about Art to her?)..Shannon is the same way.. come to think of it, most of us are angry intellectuals out to fix the world when we're drinking...
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Glen H
Posted By: Kim D.
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 8:32am
Good Morning ((everyone))...
I feel sadness and loss about ((((Art's))))) condition. There's no way around it. Yet... in the mindst of that heavy heart feeling is this: Love.
Love of the fellowship of AA that brought all of us crazy drunks together from all walks of life and from all corners of the Earth.
Love for a program that has cleared away my self centeredness enough to love another human being and have right relations with my fellows.
Love for HP that He has given me life and a glorious second chance to boot through recovery of alcoholism and drug addiction.
You know... each of us is blessed in so many ways... to be able to wake up sober - want to be sober - and have the means by which to stay that way at our disposal, ODAAT.
I'm going to wake up Curly Q Dyl now and get ready to go sweat at my step aerobics class. Got a bunch of other stuff to do today, but at my leisure and on no one's time table but my own.
Thanks for being a part of my sobriety ((CPer's)). I love you.
Love and friendship,
Kim D.
kimtuck67@hotmail.com
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 8:35am
Looking for Christina, praying for Art.
love to all..
Posted By: RAYL
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 1:37pm
Just back to-day Sorry to read that (((Art)))has got worse prayers!
Holiday went well drove up along Loch Lomond and throught Tyndrum theres still gold in the streams here!then onto Glen Coe the boys havent been this far up the west coast before and they were surprised at the height of the mountains ,We went through Fort William and past Glen Nevis the highest mount in the uk! and on up to Laggan 10 miles from Fort Augustus the caledonial canal goes through here to Loch Ness , we took a boat trip up the loch it was a good holiday the boys and the lovely Sheila enjoyed it.So (((((Everyone Have A great day))))) Regards LRAY
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lray
Posted By: Trace
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 2:45pm
L-RAY - I went upto Fort William convention 2 yrs back. I was gobsmacked by its beauty. Driving up there through the highlands was a wonderful experience.
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mailto:vague_trace@yahoo.co.uk - Trace's email
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
Posted By: Shannon
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 2:50pm
Kim....Love is right. So much love and experience, strength and
hope. I love this site and I love you All. All part of the beautiful
miracle.
Wee Anne...didja just wink at me? Gotta get you a parrot to match
the patch. Your son is tops, by the way. Hugs.
(((Art)))
Hugs all around.
Hi Glen!
Grateful for my sobriety today. Thank you all for being part of my
world.
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"There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered." ~ Nelson Mandela
Posted By: beth k
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 6:18pm
It seems that God sends blessings
In very mysterious ways.
He always finds the perfect time
To brighten all our days.
He finds someone to be our friend,
Someone who really cares,
A friend to fill the lonely hours;
An answer to all our prayers.
He blesses us all with laughter
And the gift of understanding,
To brighten up the lives of those
Who's needs seem so demanding.
The Lord, He blessed my heart
With many a wonderful friend.
I thank you, Lord, most humbly
For the happiness they lend.
I am BLESSED to be Your FRIEND.
Submitted by: Jenny
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Thanks for the gifts of sobriety,
B
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 6:51pm
Sonny has me confused flippin' channels! There's a really big concert being televised from England . . kind of looking like a 2005 version Woodstock type thing w/2 1/2 million people & one big name after another. Pink FLoyd was on, then Stevie Wonder, then Madonna, now Paul McCarney (get back Loretta!)
but at same time, Lisa Marie Presley's concert on at the Daytona Speedway packed full of NASCAR fans for the big Pepsi 400 Race tonight.
I didn't realize Sonny's got the remote flipping back & forth between the 2, & I heard the announcement of 2 1/2 million people, looked up, & I'm looking at Daytona Speedway's crowd on the screen! The Speedway holds a lot, but 2 1/2 million? We'd need 2 Daytona's for that!
So I asked him, "How'd they fit 2 1/2 million into the Speedway? - we wouldn't be able to have 2 1/2 million xtras in all of Daytona, would we? How are they doing that?"
he still can't stop laughing! I haven't received a reply, because - he's still speechless . . .
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 7:54pm
Re the concert, it's not just England:
http://www.live8live.com/ - http://www.live8live.com/
In four days, eight men could change the world. You could help them.
Posted By: Mindy B
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 8:35pm
I wanted to give Ardis a call but I lost my addy bk when I moved. I wanted to read her share on Art but I can't get back to it due to the lock. Anyone knowing what's up plz let me know mindybledsoe@email.com
Having a wonderful sober day here! Huggles Mindy
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Huggles M
Posted By: Andrew A.
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 9:22pm
Mindy, you need to set the drop down menu on the previous coffee pot to ALL to see the previous pot from the last couple of days or so. It defaults to FROM LAST YEAR and needs to be reset each time you try to access it.
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Love that learning curve.
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:45pm
I am so deeply saddened to share that ((( OUR ART ))) passed away at 6 pm today, July 2nd.
That's all I know for right now. I get back here when I know more about arrangements etc.
Oh ((((( CP GANG ))))) it breaks my heart as it will so many of yours here.
((( SANDERS ))) knows!
With love to ALL, Ardis
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: Andrew A.
Date Posted: 02 July 2005 at 11:47pm
Thank you Ardis.
Godspeed Art.
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Love that learning curve.
((((((ART)))))
been missing you already :(
til we meet up again one day,
bye bye for now.
Lots of Love,
Pam & Sonny
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
(((Art)))
Take care of yourself ((Ardis)) - thanks for letting us know.
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May the road always lead where you need to be.
Posted By: bill j
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:01am
My heart is saddened that another friend has left but it is also gladdened to know that Art is in a better place and does not need to suffer any more and God was kind it taking him rather quickley. My prayer these past few days was that God would take him gently. Like most I do not fear dieing but I do fear how I might go. I want a nice quick heart attack or something quick for I am a coward when it comes to the longsuffering death's I have seen.
Love to all my cyber friends and I am sure Art's spirit is in Toranto dancing with all the girls there. bj
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I have a DESIRE to not drink today bj
Posted By: Gage
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:45am
Goodbye, Art. Thanks for all the laughs. I'm really going
to miss you, friend.
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Improve reality.
Posted By: Brian B
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 4:08am
'Bye, Art'; you left the planet a better place for you being here, no man can ask for a more fitting tribute.
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DOS, 7th July 1968. Still active in AA, home group, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Retired Brit, Humanist with Buddhist leanings. Known to argue with rabid 'God Squad' zealots.
Posted By: Shannon
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 4:22am
Thank you, Art. I will always carry you in my heart. From one sick
puppyette.
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"There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find the ways in which you yourself have altered." ~ Nelson Mandela
Posted By: NewBeastie
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 6:23am
Hi to all..the Newbeastie is here..Alkie and Internet Addict! ((((((((Art)))))))) So sorry that you are gone! The world will be a bleaker place without you! NB
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Live Free Or Die!!
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 6:53am
thank you Ardis, for letting us know.
Go with God my friend.
Posted By: mike g
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 7:09am
GOD BLESS YOU ART!
Posted By: Wee Anne
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 8:22am
God speed Art. I never met you except here but you were an amazing example of AA and staying sober odaat no matter what. Thank you sweet man.
I didnt post yesterday coz I got caught up in the G8 festival,the music was awesome and the sentiment of the day was so powerful. My band of the night was Pink Floyd,I lived my past thru many of their songs and couldnt fault the performance.The message behind the whole thing is that 30,000 children die every day because they are so poor-thirst,hunger and disease taking all those little lives because 8 countries in the world(including mine) control the wealth in the world and dont give a crap about the misery that selfishness causes-Mans inhumanity to man. So sad to think that today many more will meet their end. I have the chance of attending the demo/concert in Edinburgh on Wednesday but dont know if I will make it due to chemo Monday but I know I'm gonna try really hard.
It has made my codition look like a tiny dot way over yonder on a landscape,today I vow I will lead my life as if it was my last day on earth and enjoy the simple pleasures that God gives me to enjoy. life without alcohol gives me the opportunites to live and love and laugh,to surround myself with loved ones and try to help others with problems,I have great empathy with those suffering and to do otherwise would take a heart of stone.
On a lighter note-I love you all,you are my friends and my friends are my greatest asset.
Shannon- wink,wink. You made me smile a goodie.
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A freudian slip?When you say one thing but mean your Mother....
Posted By: Trace
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 8:28am
I am still thinking about ((ARTS)) courage in the face of death, re letting the chips fall where they will. Thanks ((ART)) for showing me that you can die sober and its doesnt have to be scary!!
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mailto:vague_trace@yahoo.co.uk - Trace's email
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
Posted By: KellyF
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:34am
Thanks, Ardis for letting us know. And thanks, Trace, for writing the words I felt in my heart.
Thank you all for helping me to stay sober one more day.
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:35am
GoodBye (((Art))),
Say (Hi) to the big guy in the sky for me. Thanks for letting me know there is hope for this alki. May God envelope you in His loving arms and all your earthly pains be left behind you.
Say Hi to Bill and Bob for me...
Thanks for always passing the message,
Love Ya Man,
Kelly :)
Yeah, You danced!
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"Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance!"
Posted By: Sanders Watford
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:45am
morning family, Mel here alkie and addict at Sander's.
went to bed early last night and seem to be the first up. Just read about {{{{{{{{{{{ART}}}}}}}}}}}}} and I don't know what to say. His smile, the gleam in his eye, playing footsie under the covers with me or playing bocci with Bethany and John. The way he and Sanders bantered back and forth. How he was always there for whomever whenever. My world was made richer for knowing him and for that I'm grateful. The selfish part of me wishes he did not have to go, but I am happy that he is not suffering. I guess that is it for now.
Much love to you all....
Mel aka Sander's wayward daughter
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God loves you, and so do I, and there is nothing you can do about it. DOS 9-6-75
mailto:sanders@wfeca.net - SANDERS WATFORD
mailto:sanders@wfeca.net - Sanders & Little Fella
Posted By: Sanders Watford
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:46am
PS:
Who has Ye's number? I can't find it and I know she should be contacted.
Mel
mahvelousmel@excite.com
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God loves you, and so do I, and there is nothing you can do about it. DOS 9-6-75
mailto:sanders@wfeca.net - SANDERS WATFORD
mailto:sanders@wfeca.net - Sanders & Little Fella
Posted By: davez
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:53am
(((Art)))...
I hope it wasn't my deli joke....
May (((God))) bless you...
"While I thought that I was learning how to live,
I have been learning how to die."
...Leon da Vinci
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"Not all who wander are lost."
....Tolkien
mailto:davez@comcast.net - click here
Posted By: beth k
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:21am
(((ART))) I hope you are in the best place of all.
Dave Z, who is Leon da Vinci?
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Thanks for the gifts of sobriety,
B
Posted By: davez
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:27am
Beth!
His birth name was Leonardo,
but all his friends called him Leon.
;-)
Happy Fourth of July everybody!
(stay safe.)
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"Not all who wander are lost."
....Tolkien
mailto:davez@comcast.net - click here
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:32am
100 years from now, nobody will remember the clothes we wore, the car we drove, or how much money we made. The vast majority of us won’t put our names on buildings through philanthropic donations, and indeed, the only real product of our lives is the legacy that we leave through those whose lives we’ve touched.
Whether he knew it or not, Art always brightened my day. I looked forward to his Rule 62’s and his Republican bashing, with which I usually agreed. We argued a time or two, and he held no grudges nor did he stoop to personal attacks. I never met him f2f, and sincerely wish that I had.
He helped many stay sober.
I’d like to share this in his memory; it’s one of my favorites:
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Glen H
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:33am
Without realizing it, we fill important places in each other's lives. It's that way with a minister and congregation. Or with the guy at the corner grocery, the mechanic at the local garage, the family doctor, teachers, neighbors, co-workers. Good people, who are always "there," who can be relied upon in small, important ways. People who teach us, bless us, encourage us, support us, uplift us in the dailiness of life. We never tell them. I don't why, but we don't.
And, of course, we fill that role ourselves. There are those who depend on us, watch us, learn from us, take from us. And we never know. Don't sell yourself short. You may never have proof of your importance, but you are more important than you think.
It reminds me of an old Sufi story of a good man who was granted one wish by God. The man said he would like to go about doing good without knowing about it. God granted his wish. And then God decided that it was such a good idea, he would grant that wish to all human beings. And so it has been to this day.
Robert Fulghum
((Godspeed Art))
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Glen H
Posted By: john t
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 11:14am
Our loss is Heaven's gain. The same God that loaned us Art has come to pick him up and take him home. Summer camp is over and we return to our daily grind. But just like that summer crush we had in camp, Art will never leave our minds.
Thank you God for sharing Art with us! Please send your comfort and strength to his family and loved ones. Art is ok today. Help us to be ok too. AMEN.
Posted By: Geri W
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 11:22am
Good morning fellow potters.
I for one will miss the "old fart". We last spoke on Sunday before he went to ICU for his final heart attack. I am blessed that we got to say "goodbye and I love you". It makes sense that a heart as huge as Art's finally burst. He lived and loved without fear or regret. He proved the promises come true for those who "get" the program and live it in everything they do. I can only hope that I leave that kind of legacy. He will be missed by many. By now, he's telling all the folks up there about "shrub" and how glad he is to get out before Medicare is royally screwed up. I asked him to hug my folks and he promised he would. So my loss is great, his gain is glorious.
I hope everyone has a safe trip home from Toronto. It sounds great. San Antonio in 2010. May we all meet there.
Well, off to the hospital for me. Folks continue to do stupid things and need "patching" up.
Thanks for letting me be part of the group.
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geri
Posted By: Ronnie
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 12:10pm
Art One great man !! He was one of the people who helped me be what I am today. When the water works stop I will write more. He will be dearly missed.
Love
Ronnie
Posted By: Gage
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 12:27pm
You get so used to people that you forget they are with
you only as long as God allows. Art's passing has
reminded me that you folks are important to me. Thank you
for helping me stay sober.
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Improve reality.
Posted By: Wee Anne
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 12:54pm
Going back to the South Side soon but wanted to say thanks to Gage especially for that post above. The sentiment of that post,you folks live in my heart,I have a mental image of you all and I try to "see" you as I read posts. To go to the trouble of imagining you all tells me that you are important in MY life. I can come here and share-the good,the bad and the ugly,its all been here from me over the years. My triumphs,my fears and tears. When I joined this group I was pretty new to AA and totally new to computers and sometimes I worried that I would have no value here,well,I'm still here,I didnt break anything and I learned so much here,patience,love and a wee bit of tolerance...Yep,I've come across folk I wouldnt have drank with at my lowest points but they too taught me, how I DIDNT want my sobriety to turn out. To try to use my life to share and care,to forgive myself for the unspeakable things I had done and NEVER to forget I'm only one arms length from all that chaos and pain. I think I'm becoming the sort of woman I always wanted to be,thru the teachings of AA,the big book and the programme I'm becoming human. My heart goes out to Art's family,I know how my family has gone thru every human emotion in the last few months and we are now in a sort of purgatoy waiting to see what happens next. Its not always easy to be one of us but if I'm honest, I wouldnt change a thing(well I might ask for my spare parts to be returned) and that is AA and folks like YOU and Art have taught me. See ya when I get home again. Be good to yourself today, none of us are guaranteed tomorrow. Play nice kids.
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A freudian slip?When you say one thing but mean your Mother....
Posted By: Trace
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:18pm
MEL, I will try and contact SONIA, I think she may be in touch with Yvonne.
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mailto:vague_trace@yahoo.co.uk - Trace's email
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
Posted By: ppcatz
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:22pm
(((Art)))
Posted By: RAYL
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:40pm
Heaven will have a a great joke teller now!
Thou ART in Heaven Hallowed be his name.
((((Everone)))) have a nice day Regards LRAY
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lray
Posted By: Bob W
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 1:48pm
(((ART))) Rest well old friend. Your family here will miss you, but you're in a far better place now.
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Bob W
Posted By: Nadine
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 2:20pm
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Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood,carry water.
Posted By: AnnieK
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 2:45pm
Afternoon, Potooties...
(((((((((Art)))))))))))) and family. You will be missed by those of us who knew you and loved you. One little guy made a big impact on lots of lives. I will use my memory of him and of that idea to not ever not do the things that need doing because I think "one person can't make a difference."
(((Ardis)))
Went to a Sunday meeting this morning, step study of the 6th step. Saw lots of things about myself this morning that I generally choose not to acknowledge. yikes. Things about ego and about greed. sigh...the process continues...
Today we will go to a bbq at another AA's house. Lots of program folks will be there. It's a good chance to socialize since we're new here. Amazing how AA just keeps filling out my life. The phone just rang and it's one of my new sponsees. On her way to work (late) because she had a meeting with her parole officer today and she was late. Said the parole officer is talking to her about another parolee who is having a helluva time staying clean and sober and wanted to know if she could go talk to her. So, she wanted to know if I would go with her on this 12th step call when the time comes, because she's only 10 months sober and it's scarey. Thank you God, for making me useful. What a blessing that her parole officer feels like she could do that. That, my friends, is the 12 steps in action.
Last night was my son's birthday. 34 years old and we went for supper and swimming. It was very nice. I'm blessed that he has grown into such a fine man. (Musta been ALL that praying I had to do when he was 18-25...LOL.
Hope everyone is having a happy holiday weekend. Stay safe sane and sober...everything else will work itself out.
LOve and sadness for the passing of my friend,
anniek
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"Faith dares the soul to look beyond where the eyes can see." -Tolkien
Posted By: christine c
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 3:11pm
Nice to read some news from you Wee Anne and to see the humor of Ray L, I always think of you as el ray, with a certain personae, like Zorro or something. Hmmm, lets see, sober today, working with a newly sober woman this weekend lots of effort but I realize that I need to think about situations before I enter into them to see if I can remain stable in them (thats what I gather about myself hanging out with her). Trying to put myself in safe places is important for me at the momment. What else, ah, I have been in Albuquerque one month, I miss a lot of people in France.
Ah, I am looking forward to three weeks in Wisconsin with my supportive aunt Suzie in August. Lastly, the womans meeting here is damn good.
Bye bye for now,
Christine C.
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"Never give in! Never give in! Never, never, never. Never -- in anything great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense."
-Winston Churchill-
Posted By: Bill S
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 3:39pm
((((((ART)))))) Thank you for being my friend !!!
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Thank you for being my friend !!!
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 4:03pm
Talking by phone last night to Pam at midnight, this beautiful shiny silver frog sat on my window sill. I told Pam about it, whooooo how strange.
When our conversation ended, I looked closer, the wetness of the frog skin reflected the silvery moonlight outside, (or maybe a lamp post). It looked like a hidden prince in silver shining armor to me.
I asked the frog through the open window, is that you Art? I'm impressed!
Art, are you trying to tell me one has to kiss a lot of frogs before we kiss a prince?
So true Art, you are THE PRINCE in my heart!
Thank you, may your soul have a gorgeous journey, until we meet again!
With that, the frog jumped back into the bushes!
I do not believe in any of this, however, I LOVED how my mind translated the appearance of the Arty-Farty frog!
Thanks for the memories (((ART)))
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: Mindy B
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 5:16pm
Frog medicine is very powerful. Frog has the ability to call the healing water of rain. Frog also brings to us a cleansing. He says stop and look at how you're feeling, is it tired, overloaded, frustrated, at loss, empty, or weakened? If so take a break, allow yourself to bathe in the waters of Frog medicine. A long bath may be just the thing, or disconnect the phone, yell STOP!, or take in cleansing breaths.
The key thought is to find a way to rid yourself of the bad and replace the mud with clear energy. Then replenish your parched spirit, body, and mind.
A person who has frog medicine will always give support and energy where it is needed. Frog medicine people can clear the negitivity from any enviroment.
Yep sounds like (((((Art))))) to me and he was short! Huggles, sorrow, tears, and working on acceptance, Mindles
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Huggles M
Posted By: Jan BB
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 6:09pm
(((Art))) I will miss you my friend.
I'll never forget the time he called us all boobs and pricks, LOL, it was during election time and he was all fired up . . . oh man, his jokes . . .
My love to all,
jan
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"Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you." -- Maori proverb
Posted By: pat s
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 6:28pm
He's walking tall wherever he is. Just the same as when he was here.
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pat the heretic
Posted By: cher417
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 7:09pm
Hello Potterzzz,
I have enjoyed reading all the post from Toronto. I have a feeling that a lot of the people who posted were dragged into the suite and forced to post validating the expense of the CyberSuite. LOL
One of these years I will attend. I mostly want to see the flag ceremony. How HUGE AA is on this planet!
Please, when you all rest up find a way to share photos with us if you can.
Be good, Play nice,
Cherie...the other one .. the Maine-iac
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Area#28 standing committee chair
Grateful for service opportunities
Mom of American Soldier in Iraq
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 9:10pm
I LOVE (((YOU ALL))) so much! every one of your shares are great! :)
RAY L - yours the funniest! .. envisioning ART replying, "you've got it right!" lol!
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: Herb S.
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 10:11pm
Just got back from camping and read the news about ((((((Art)))))) Feeling pretty sad right now. I know he's okay but I will miss him. I think he'll be happy to find out there are mutts in the next life too. Hope I attain the kind of sobriety he had one of these days.
((Ray,Trace)): My sweetie went to Scotland back in the 80's and she climbed Ben Nevis. She showed me some pictures; quite the beautiful spot indeed!
I saw someone had thanked Glen for the link to the convention, so I'm gonna check the archives and see if it's there. Bye for now, folks. ((Wee Anne)) ((Joni))
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Herb
Posted By: christine c
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 11:19pm
Oh, it is nice to read about other peoples thoughts and how experiences are always related to other experiences all at the same time. On the frog tangent I love these wooden flying frog models from Thailand that are sold at this world kinda store near my house and have stopped myself several times from buying them because the thought of lugging them back in my suitcase to Paris just seems like a lot of effort. But I adore those flying frogs that hang from the ceiling and have wings.
I just returned from a racewalk around the neighborhood and it is quiet and a nice summer evening and their are several little quiet get togethers going on around and it just seems like a pleasant momment. I enjoy reading about peoples insights.
bye bye for now
Christine C.
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"Never give in! Never give in! Never, never, never. Never -- in anything great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense."
-Winston Churchill-
Posted By: Mindy B
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 11:32pm
Has anyone talked to Mark L?
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Huggles M
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: 03 July 2005 at 11:59pm
(((ART))) will be cremated and a 'Celebration of Love' will be held Wednesday afternoon at his home.
He wanted to be burried on his property in the corner where he had his 'Serenity Garden'.
If so desired, cards and flowers can be send to:
129 Galloway Rd
New Bern, NC 28560
I gave MEL YE's phone number I have. I've tried to call YE at that number several times in the past 2 weeks, however, my phone is blocked by Sprint from making International calls since I moved here, I just found that out today. NICE! I pay a monthly fee to have the International service and there's no phone number I can even reach at Sprint but automatic services, to have it corrected. A tat upsetting, ohhhhh welllll.....
... but MINDY -LOL- it might have been a toad! I can not tell the difference! -LOL-
(((GLEN))) I have a request for you from (((Jeannie))), PLEASE call me 813-787-4733 or email me. Can we/you pull the tribute to our ART from the CP for the last few weeks? The 2 sisters he has left would love to read it all and Jeanne too. Art's printer is not working so the current pages can not be pulled to print. Thanks friend for your help.
Happy 4th of JULY to all Americans and the rest of the world a Happy Monday! With love, Ardis
PS: My messenges are so late each time as the only time I can talk to Jeanne is later at night, when she is available.
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: john t
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 12:48am
"What is life? It is the flash of a firefly in the night. It is the breath of a buffalo in the wintertime. It is the little shadow which runs across the grass and loses itself in the sunset." Blackfoot Warrior
I never met Art but I can't stop crying over his departure. I see so much hopelessness every day at work that the loss of the embodiment of hope is extremely difficult. I am trying to not sit here and brood over it, but it is really tough. I have been calling people and going to meetings that I usually don't go to. I even went to an AA picnic on Sunday just to be with others. I fixed 2 pans of food and baked 2 pies to take and it all got eaten. Yet I felt no satisfaction, only melancholy.
This is new territory for this old loner biker! I feel like I am losing you folks already and I have just found you. Part of this is fear but there is much more than that.Much like the firefly mentioned above,I am flitting around the edges of insanity, or at least so it feels. Maybe this is all just a cold hard recogning with my own mortality. All I know is that it makes me very nervous. I even bought a pack of cigarettes today after 2 1/2 years of doing without. That's better than drinking!
I feel like I am being extremely selfish and feel guilty for talking of my weirdness, like I am trying to attract attention. And in a way I am. My sobriety has taught me to not be so damn self-reliant. A burden shared is a burden halved. I know I can't do sobriety alone!
I'm so tired.
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Hillbilly John
Posted By: Barney H.
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 12:59am
Haven't been able to post the last few days. Now that I have a minute, all I want to say is I'm deeply saddened by Art's passing.
He doesn't have to suffer this world any longer.
But we who knew him must grieve his death.
Sad. So sad.
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"Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today"
Posted By: Gage
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 2:33am
John T, I like reading your posts.
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Improve reality.
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 2:55am
Evening All,
Phew, I just got done making up 10 lbs of potato salad and it came out really good because I tasted it as I went. The Triangle Club Barbecue is tommorrow at 1pm and I also have a wake in the afternoon at 4pm. A young man died Friday night skateboarding and he goes to my church. Freak accident and not wearing a helmet. He was just 18 and just graduated. Father said today we need all the desserts we can make because there will be a huge crowd of his schoolmates. I'm making my favorite cake but not till I get up.
((John)), I find cooking helpful when I'm grieving too. It is also a nice thing to do for the family. This boys Mom is taking it really hard and works at the bank. I'm going to the wake and funeral and bringing lots of kleenex. I didn't know her son but I know her and to lose a child out skateboarding has to be totally devastating. I'm going to be of any assistance I can, bring a cake and to pray for the dead. I am also going to Thank God for my own son. I will cry for her loss which is not mine, but it could be, which will make me feel her pain.
And to cry is theraputic. Empathy is good for the soul. I just let it out. What is it that Sandears always said...? When you cry your head won't swell", or something like that!
(((Art)))
Well it is really late so I'm going to bed,
Happy 4th of July Everyone,
Kelly :)
Did ya know?... "America The Beautiful" was written by a local woman???
http://www.fuzzylu.com/falmouth/bates/home.htm - http://www.fuzzylu.com/falmouth/bates/home.htm
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 3:37am
(((((((((((((((JOHN T))))))))))))))))
& I love reading your posts, too. Glad you're here :)
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: Brian B
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 4:42am
What does a Brit do on July 4th? Thinks.... what would Art have me do - I know, tell a Rule #62, this one is for you, pal.
Little Nancy was in the garden filling in a hole when her neighbour peered over the fence. Interested in what the cheeky-faced youngster was doing, he politely sked, "What are you up to there, Nancy?"
"My goldfish died," replied Nancy tearfully, without looking up, "and I've just buried him." The neighbour was moved by the little girls emotion. "Oh, I'm so sorry. But that's an awfully big hole for a little goldfish, isn't it?"
Nancy patted down the last pile of earth and then replied,
"That's because he's inside your ******* cat."
See thee, Bri-turd.
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DOS, 7th July 1968. Still active in AA, home group, Chiang Mai, Thailand. Retired Brit, Humanist with Buddhist leanings. Known to argue with rabid 'God Squad' zealots.
Posted By: Avril G
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 6:10am
OH MY!!! (((ART))) May you rest in peace dear friend. Your presence will be sadly missed, for sure, but OH BOY what wonderful memories we will all keep forever.
When I am gone, release me, let me go.
I have so many things to see and do,
You mustn't tie yourself to me with too many tears,
But be thankful we had so many good years.
I gave you my love, and you can only guess
How much you've given me in happiness.
I thank you for the love that you have shown,
But now it is time I traveled on alone
So grieve for me a while, if grieve you must
Then let your grief be comforted by trust
That it is only for a while that we must part,
So treasure the memories within your heart
I won't be far away for life goes on.
And if you need me, call and I will come.
Though you can't see or touch me, I will be near
And if you listen with your heart, you'll hear
All my love around you soft and clear And then, when you come this way alone,
I'll greet you with a smile and a "Welcome Home".
God Bless you ART - I am sure you will meet many woinderful people up there in that big AA meeting.
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E-Mail me: mailto:goodallavril2000@yahoo.co.uk - Avril G
http://community.webshots.com/user/goodienuff100 - Avie's Pics
http://avrilgoodall.tripod.com/ - My website
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 6:51am
Good morning all..
Well I'm back home, got in about nine last night. We got to the family place around 7, there were a lot of people there I wanted to visit with, my sister was having a three day houseparty with a lot of our old high school buds. But I made some calls and discovered my boy was here by himself. His dad had brought him back from Massachusetts and then had to turn around and go back for a charter today. So I offloaded Chris and Dee's stuff, gave everybody hugs all round and continued on home.
It's good to have my boy home. And good to be home myself.
The delphiniums have bloomed finally. It's going to be a gorgeous day for the parade. Raised the flag around sunrise.
John T, it's good to share grief. I'll miss Art terribly.
But what that Blackfoot man said long ago is still true. Life IS just as evanescent, as fleeting, as those things. We are all just here one minute and gone the next.
We live on in what we did, in what people remember of us, in how we affect them. Little bits of Art will live on in all of us. We are all the embodiment of hope. You too.
Here's my #62 for Art, it's really the only joke I know and because I was for many years a housepainter, it's a housepainter joke:
How do you tell the difference between a wife, a whore, and a mistress?
The mistress says "More, more!", the whore says "Faster, faster!" and the wife says "I think I'll paint it beige..."
Now if you're a painter you probably think that is hilarious.
love to all..
Posted By: Trace
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 6:52am
FOR JOHN T.
Fear
One day, I decided to try something new. I took my ten year old son out on the St. Croix River on a Waverunner. A Waverunner is a small boating vehicle resembling a motorcycle.
We donned life jackets and embarked on an experience that turned out to be both exhilarating and frightening; exhilarating when I let myself enjoy it; frightening when I thought too much about what I was doing and all the terrible things that could happen.
Midway though our ride, my worst fear came true. We took a spill. We were floundering in thirty feet of water. The Waverunner was bobbing on the waves in front of me, like a motorized turtle on it back.
"Don't panic," my son said calmly.
"What if we drown?" I objected.
"We can't," he said. "We have life jackets on. See! We're floating."
"The machine is upside down," I said. "How are we going to turn it over?"
"Just like the man said," my son answered. "The arrow points this way."
With an easy gesture, we turned the machine right side up. "What if we can't climb back on?" I asked.
"We can," my son replied. "That's what Waverunners were made for: climbing on in the water."
I relaxed and as we drove off, I wondered why I had become so frightened. I thought maybe it's because I don't trust my ability to solve problems. Maybe it's because once I almost drowned when I wasn't wearing a life jacket.
But you didn't drown then either; a small voice inside reassured me. You survived.
Don't panic.
Problems were made to be solved. Life was made to be lived. Although sometimes we may be in over our heads - yes, we may even go under for a few moments and gulp a few mouthfuls of water, we won't drown. We're wearing - and always have been wearing - a life jacket. That support jacket is called "God."
Today, I will remember to take care of myself. When I get in over my head, God is there supporting me - even when my fears try to make me forget.
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mailto:vague_trace@yahoo.co.uk - Trace's email
"Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others."
Groucho Marx.
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 7:24am
John, I started to mention the other day that Art had said several times that one thing he wish he hadn't done was to smoke, and indeed, smoking hastened his departure.
If you want to do something, I'd say put the nicotine back down, you have other tools to deal with grief than that. Alcohol is a killer of alcoholics, of course, but study after study shows that the biggest threat to recovered alcoholics is smoke.
I figured that it'd be a crying shame to sober up having survived so many totaled autos that I've lost count, life on the streets in Seattle, multiple stays in jail, thousands of fights, I started eating right, exercising, and stopped smoking.
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Glen H
Posted By: GlenH
Date Posted: 04 July 2005 at 7:39am
Ardis, I saved all the posts from the one where he re-entered ICU and emailed them to you (and Miranda)..we can print and mail, or maybe Miranda or I could post them at our site (although thats of dubious help if they can't print)..my puter is nearly packed tho..
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Glen H
Posted By: Curtis L
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:11am
I hope and pray that there is some way Art can have his mutts in heaven. They must be lost without him; I know I am and I only met him one time. ((((((((Art)))))))) You are missed so much, the tears keep flowing.
Love in the fellowship of hope.
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With love, hugs, and hope in the AA fellowship, Curtis L.
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:43am
Anyone who would like recordings on tape, CD, or Mp3 format of any of the meetings or panel discussions during Toronto Convention,including the 3 big stadium meetings, I have an order form for all of them. I will happily make copies and send to anybody who wants one, just e-mail your snail mail address to
fishercatV8@yahoo.com
I'll put all the posts that Glen sent me re Art into a document that I can e-mail, print and mail, or I'll post it. Just give me a couple days.
Posted By: bill j
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:46am
Art really enjoyed his jokes and people. He sure didn't care much for Republicans or the Bushes and didn't mind saying so and I did clash with him for bashing our President for he is Our President but we did find closure in just leaving it alone. He was involved in most of the gatherings (More than I) I only made 5 of them he made 8 of 9 + some trips just to visit some like Sanders and Annie K. Wish I were closer to do that but have to do life on life's terms. He had a full life and was ready to go in that life was getting harder as it does when we get older and things start to not working right.
I Love the little guy from the very beginning when we met him in Williamsburg and he came with Isla and I to the old part of town and we walked among the Ages there. Now he is among the Ages. I saw him last at Panama City Beach in December 04 where he was Our Sunday morning Spiritual speaker and he was slipping a little then but went on like the trooper that he was any way. He was always ready to poke fun at himself to get a laugh and that is a sigh of real Humility. The world is richer from his being among us for he taught us to laugh and keep on trucking.
Well I'm praying for our Wee Annie, Curtis and Sanders.
Daughter and family was here for the weekend but had to go back yesterday. It was nice to get to visit them. I missed some of the meeting but that is ok also.
Went to the meeting last night anw we had one returl that went back out about 3 years ago. He had 13 years once so I know it is difficult so say a prayer for Nick if you would.
Trying to figure what to do this day. It has been in the 100's for the last few days and today will be another. the area is a tinder box and with the fireworks going on tonight I am sure we will have some grass fires and probably some house fires even though it is illeagle to set off fireworks inside the city limits people do it any way.
Love to my cyber friends bj
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I have a DESIRE to not drink today bj
Posted By: Jan BB
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:56am
(((Cher))) The truth-No one draged anyone in, folks were interested and as far as posting, for many it was a first time posting AA online. Quite a few had never been on a computer before.
On the red eye tonight, thank you for posting the were to send ((Ardis))).
My love to all,
jan
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"Turn your face to the sun and the shadows fall behind you." -- Maori proverb
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 11:05am
Good Morning,
Jann, You must be sooo beat! Great job on the Convention 2005 page!
Gotta get my rear in gear for the nooner. ((Hi Cher Maine)). I was just up in Newport to put a deposit on a Boston Terrier. It was 3 hours but so worth it. He is a black with white mask, chest and I knew the minute I saw him he had my heart. The breeder was right on Lake ? A really big lake. I have to go back up on July 24th to pick him up. Any good nooners near Augusta? My Maine Book only handles southern Maine. Thanks.
Gotta go get the potato salad in a bowl and a cake in the oven.
Hey Bj, Keep cool man! Lots of illegal fireworks going off here last night. The cops were sure busy trying to bag people but as soon as they caught one another was setting them off! I enjoyed both shows! Tonight is the big one in Dover and I'm going to be there. I'm scared of setting them off myself but love watching them. Nothing like the smell of burnt powder!!! Yeah baby!!!
Dave Z, That was too freakin funny on the convention page! Brian ;) Cute one. I wish I had a rule 52 joke!
I'll sure miss Art's jokes.
Anybody got a weiner to go with Daves sausage?
Kelly ;)
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"Life may not be the party we hoped for... but while we are here we might as well dance!"
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 12:05pm
ahahaha! BRIAN! :)
JAN - I'm so glad the Cyber Suite was set up at the International Convention for people who've never posted in online AA could see an idea of what its about.
In f2f mtgs, the loudest cynics voicing opinions against it & of it having no useful value whatever - are those who've never done it.
All the many of us who are active in the various online AA things we belong to, just listen . . . ;)
What a gorgeous day for all the picnics & outdoor activities going on for the 4th. We have finally decided which one we'll go to & then we'll see the fireworks on the beach Boardwalk tonight.
4th of July is an extra special day of celebrating freedom for me - 29 yrs ago today is when God intervened in my decision for suicide, & then I was also introduced to my HP - JC.
Up till then, I'd been basically an agnostic convinced the Bible was pure fanatasy in the minds of those who want to believe it. But that day established an undoubtable faith in my HP for me, & a learning, growing, changing journey began - I learned that I wasn't opposed to believing the Bible is valid - it was the many various interpretations of religions that I just couldn't agree with.
Several yrs later a further intervention by my HP brought me to my 1st introduction to AA - not only for me to be ABLE to live clean & sober, extending & blessing my life - but also the whole worldwide fellowship of all of You's to learn from & share & grow with as we travel the road of our spiritual journeying together - learning love & friendships & the closeness of that special bond of AA family we share worldwide.
Everyone of you is that special value to me, what my HP has blessed me with.
On July 4, 1976 I was started on the pathway to inner freedom that would eventually render me able to receive & enjoy & appreciate the true gift of blessing that living sober as a member of this AA Family is. My celebration of Independence is in gratitude for all of us who've found the Happy, Joy & Freedom of living sober by these 12 Steps - & the hope for the many more who will know it also.
Love to You All!
Pam
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 12:38pm
From a Lakota Indian from Eagle Butte, South Dakota:
'MISS ME - BUT LET ME GO'
When I come to the end of the road and, the sun has set for me.
I want no rites in a gloom-filled room, why cry for a soul set free?
Miss me a little - but not too long, and not with your head bowed low.
Remember the love that we once shared;
Miss me - but let me go!
For this is a journey that we all must take and each must go alone.
It's all part of the Master's plan a step on the road to home.
When you are lonely and sick at heart,
go to the friends we know,
and bury your sorrows in doing good deeds.
Miss me - but let me go!
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: beth k
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 12:47pm
Hey, John T., welcome to the group, I have been a loner, and I noticed when i started to be "part of..." I was especially or overly touched by things. I thought for me it was just that I had been so insulated the the feelings of real human emotion was overwhelming at first. Kind of like all those things I had stuffed were coming up at the same time. Take care keep in touch with people, and keep posting here, I love hearing from you.
Happy 4th to my fellow Americans, and thanks for the starter kit to the UK.
Kelly, I am really close to Newport when at work....let me see if I know of a meeting...I'll email later, probably tomorrow, ok?
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Thanks for the gifts of sobriety,
B
Posted By: Carlos Roig
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 1:39pm
((((((((((((Art)))))))))) May the next life be wonderful and full of joy and lots of dogs to keep us company!! whe knows? You could be a guardian angel for another suffering alcoholic...
sallie G
Posted By: Kerry B
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 2:33pm
Spent the day with Art when he was here in Idaho. Duck Races were in the plans and our annual car show was in full swing. Dave and I really enjoyed the time we got to spend with him alone. I got tickled because it seemed that every car from the 30's and 40's brought memories to Art and he shared them with us. I can still hear him say "theres a '35" or "there's a '42". At one point he climbed up into a miniature fighter plane, what a hoot!! Laughter is the world's best medicine, and Art was good at shoveling it out.
Went to the grocery with him too as he cooked us lasagna and pizza's for our dinner and meeting that night. Will not forget how he dazzled the cashier with his charms. I don't think she could tell if he was serious or joking with her. I still wonder!! What fun!
(((((((((Art))))))))) and (((((((((Art's family))))))))
I'm grateful that everyone came here that year, I will never forget it.
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DOS 3/21/80 - still not hovering!! LOL
Posted By: Jim S.
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 3:12pm
Thanks to all for the great posts and tributes to
Art. Didn't know him, yet feel as if I have. I love reading all the posts and posting here and there.
I will say a prayer for Nick. Thanks Avril and Ardis
for the poetic tributes. Words to live by.
Rule # 62 (if you'll allow me)
Three elderly sisters lived together. Alice was 96.
Beatrice was 94. Carol was 92.
Alice was upstairs and had drawn a bath. After gently stepping in the water, she had forgotten if she was getting in the tub or out. She yelled downstairs for help. Beatrice went upstairs to help her. But halfway up she had forgotten whether she was going up or down.
She yelled down for help. Carol, who was sitting at the table, tapped on the table and thought-knock on wood I'm
not as goofy as those two. Then she yelled to Alice and Beatrice "I'll be up to help you after I see who is
knocking at the door". Thanks to Art for sharing his
Sobriety. Let it rain on us all.
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jim
Posted By: sonia
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 5:13pm
Hello World
Thanks for letting me know trace, I have contacted Yvonne.
Sad, Art is one of many who have changed my life.
love and lightening
sonia
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Love and Lightening
mailto:Sonia.me@ntlworld.com - Sonia
Posted By: Joni N
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 6:59pm
Hi, (everyone)
((((((((((ART))))))))))Although we never met f2f, we were connected heart to heart, as I am with all here. I will miss his jokes, his love for his dogs, his political passion (with which I agree) and his love for others and the program. What a shining example of the program in action was Art. Like a pebble in a stream that ripples out, so was Art's influence in others' lives. Thank you, Art, for rippling out to me.
Got back from Toronto last night. As I was standing waiting for my luggage in baggage claim, I was trying to figure out what it was that I was feeling. It was loss.
For four days, I was surrounded by thousands of alcoholics vibrating with love. The lines didn't feel long because I talked with the people around me. Standing at a traffic light, I laughed with others standing there. I hugged hundreds of "friends" from around the world. There were only positive words heard and love and tolerance expressed. There was no small talk; conversations were immediately intimate and on the heart level.
On Saturday night, I met the secretary of China's GSO. I gave him a conference pin; he gave me a Chinese gift. He couldn't speak English; I can only say thank you in Chinese. He had that light in his eyes that I found in others' from my very first meeting; the light I wanted and have today. His sponsor, a Canadian journalist who lives in Beijing, joined us and then interpreted so Lao and I could verbally understand each other. Lao just celebrated 5 years of sobriety last month. Alcoholics introduce themselves by their last names in meetings because they are very common in China. Their given names are unique and they wouldn't be able to maintain anonymity if they used them. And I've been invited to speak at a meeting in Beijing...if I ever visit there.
A man from South Africa gave me a miniature, beaded flag of his country. I told Howard from London and Jenny from Kansas City about StayingCyber. (actually I was telling quite a few people about this site) And while in the cyber suite, helped some people who are new to cyber AA to log on.
On Saturday night, after the Old Timers Meeting, Jan and I joined 7,000 of our new best friends on the dance floor. I could feel the bass in my heart. Looking around, I almost floated off the floor. All ages, all nationalities, all races...it was a mass of throbbing, vibrating, laughing alcoholics. There were several very long conga lines. At one point, the DJ had all of us dancing Country Western steps. Have you ever experienced 7,000 people doing the same dance steps? Unfortunately, at 61 years of age, although I keep thinking I'm still only 51 I didn't last very long on the dance floor.
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Hugs, Joni
"Your life is what your thoughts make it."
-Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Joni N
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 7:27pm
Hi, again.
Miranda beat me to the offer of getting/copying tapes for people. So, Miranda, if you get too many requests, let me know if I can help with that.
What an incredible experience to meet Jan, Miranda and Dean and his lovely wife Carmen! Dean was 12 stepping during the convention. What a loving person he is...and so doggone huggable!! lol
Saturday night's big meeting: 12 young people in the program with sobriety from one day to 7 years picked out that night's speakers from a basket. Then 12 old timers from 42 years to 49 years of sobriety talked. One said that what a speaker at a meetings says is not that important; that what is important was the love vibes that you experience in the meeting. There was certainly a lot of that, that night.
Just sharing what happened during the convention doesn't convey the magic and the wonderment that occurs during it...because it's the spiritual moments that take place in various forms that make this convention so awesome. It may sound silly but it really is like being surrounded by 50,000+ best friends! One moment that stands out for me took place Friday morning at the convention center. A white man about 80 years old with a head of white hair and a young black guy about 20 years old with dreadlocks were sitting next to each under a convention poster that stated the convention's theme I AM RESPONSIBLE...they were howling with laughter. And that was what I heard the most of throughout the convention...laughter.
Overheard: #1 person...This line is moving so slow! #2 person (NOT with #1)...So, you get to practice patience.
#1 person...laughs raucously.
The bus driver going to the airport introduced himself on the microphone...I'm Mike...and the whole bus cried out, Hi, Mike! He wasn't an alcoholic but he thought we were great (he had already bused several groups by then).
When I landed in Toronto, my bag didn't make it on my flight. I couldn't understand because every convention I've been to, everything flowed smoothly. I realized God might have something up her sleeve for me. Sure enough, at the claims counter, two men from Mexico were trying to figure out the claims form...one couldn't speak English, the other could a little but couldn't read it. So I was able to help them. Also, Sally, a newcomer broke into tears at the counter and she wanted a drink. I was able to help her calm down, fill out the form and ride into the city with her. By the time we got to the hotel, she was back into gratitude. Some might call this coincidence; I call it God moments.
Wow...I'm running out of words and there is so much to share. All of you just have to come to San Antonio to experience it yourself!!
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Hugs, Joni
"Your life is what your thoughts make it."
-Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Sandie A
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 7:35pm
Hi everyone greetings from beautiful Canada My name is Sandie and have been sober 25years as for last feb I am a new member to the coffee pot read the stories and like everyone of them, Staying sober for is easy, as long as I remeber where I came from and hoe easy it is to return to all the heart ache, if you all know what I mean,I don!t work, because of a knee enjury, so I have lots of timeof my hands. I go to 2 - 3 meetings a week and that what keeps me sober. I like what I hear and hope to gain alot more knowledge in the future One Day At A Time .God Bless you all and I wish you many more days of soberity.
Posted By: beth k
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:37pm
Hi Sandie A. I am happy to welcome you here to the pot. Its a nice place to spend some time....
Jim S cute #62 :>)
I had an absolutely wonderful day with sober/normie family. It would have been impossible just a bit ago.
I too would like to thank Jan and Miranda for the instant access to the convention. Joni than you so much for the detailed remarks. Next time I will be there...with bells on.
I am going to the Key West Round Up in August as a beginners convention, then I'll work my way up to an international. But I guess key West will be international as it is the conch republic....anyone going please feel free to email me..I of course do know about Chris and Charlie being there. They told me about it..
Hope everyone had a good 24.
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Thanks for the gifts of sobriety,
B
Posted By: Mike L (Minn.)
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:52pm
Good Evening CPers,
((ART)) We never connected f2f, but I will join in those who will say Farewell and Godspeed.
Anyone have any idea why all emails I sent to SONIA keep being bounced back?
I tried the 3-4 addresses I had, including the one in Profile, but no go :(
Hrmm, mebbe I'm on her blocked list? O_o
Peace, Mike L. (Minn.)
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The only difference between the saint and the sinner is that every saint has a past, and every sinner has a future. -Oscar Wilde
Posted By: john t
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 9:53pm
Thanks to everyone who has reached out to encourage me to keep on keeping on during this current crisis of faith. I really want to unload somemore of where I am right now, but I have decided to do that with the people in my groups here at home.
Pride can keep me hiding in the anonimity of this site,but it is time to stop hiding. I appreciate all your help and you will hear more of me,but it is time to face my fears head on and do battle. The sharings here have reminded me of the principal of love and how it bears all things. There are people here at home who will love me if I will just let them. You all have reminded me of that.
I am so grateful that my HP led me to find you all. I love everyone of you.
Hillbilly John
Posted By: Jack C.
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 11:18pm
Just a note to let you all know that I made it to the Convention and it was fantastic. As many mentioned by some of those attending, I wish i could have done more. From what I did attend, I can't help but thank the folks that were greeting everyone and continued with real smiles and handshakes. Due to a miscommunication with the couple I was with, we lost each other on the subway system along with my wife who I asked to wait while I went to search for the lost ones. It resulted in all of us separated late at night and panic started to set in. As I rode back and forth on the subway looking and asking if others saw them, I said a prayer and asked if God was with me. I noticed a sign in the subway car that read"...among us" and also "arriving daily." The sign was pertaining to the new buses but You all know how I interpreted it. Within approx 30 minutes, one of the employees sent a message to another station and I was told how my wife and company were now together and waiting for me. The experience was somewhat overwhelming to think my wife was lost and by herself so late in a subway station and now all will be well. Thanks to all who helped her and the other couple and especially to God who was being prayed to.
Thanks to all of you for being here and in Toronto. This was my 1st one after being sober for over 30 yrs now. A great experience and highly recommended to all who can get to the next one in Texas. Love to all, jack.
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jack c. manchester,nh.
Posted By: bill j
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 11:35pm
Welcome Sandie A. Can't tell if you are male of female by your name but it does not matter for we are all alcoholics and it seems the booze does us all in.
Was at the meeting tonight and only 5 otters showed up but was glad to see our slipper gal get 8 days. she is struggling again for has been in and out for 12 years. I sure hope she makes it this time for it is taking a pretty good toll on her body now. She has aged 15 years in the last year. Say a prayer for her please.
Love to all my cyber friends bj
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I have a DESIRE to not drink today bj
Posted By: Barney H.
Date Posted: July 04 2005 at 11:36pm
(((((((ARDIS)))))))
Just wanted you to know that you touched my heart soooooo deeply with that poem. My Mom died in 1999, and my Dad joined her in heaven in 2003. On thier shared gravestone, it is inscribed,
"MISS ME, BUT LET ME GO."
Thank you.
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"Acceptance is the answer to all my problems today"
Posted By: cher417
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 12:15am
Kelly....http://www.aamaine.org
This is our Central Service Office in Portland. They have the most up to date meeting list posted. Just click on the district nearest to where you are going. If you click on the name of the Group, most will pop up with a map to show you how to get to the door.
I know the Triangle Club in Dover NH...we call it the Tarantula Club here though. hehe
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Area#28 standing committee chair
Grateful for service opportunities
Mom of American Soldier in Iraq
Posted By: jimr
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 1:57am
Art ... your spirit never dies! Of course, you know that.
I was sleeping, and being comforted
by a cool breeze, when suddenly a gray dove
from a thicket sang and sobbed with longing,
and reminded me of my own passion.
I had been away from my own soul so long,
so late-sleeping, but that dove's crying
woke me and made me cry. Praise
to all early-waking grievers.
Aldi al-Riga
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An explanation of cause is not a justification by reason. C.S. Lewis
Posted By: Herb S.
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 1:58am
Sandie: Welcome to the pot from another Canuck!
To our neighbours to the south, Happy Birthday Y'all! I live literally a block away from the U.S. and I can hear the fireworks going off in the distance.
John T. You keep coming back here, no matter what happens. You're right, we can't do it alone!
((Joni)) Think I'm going to make it to San Antone; sounds like I missed a lot of fun!
((Sonia)) Nice to see you on the pot again. Hope married life is treating you okay! :-)
This place sure won't be the same without Art but we'll keep the doors open for all the newcomers.
((Sissy)) I miss ya. Hi Shannon, Hi Cec, Hi Les, Hi Gage,Hi Kim ((Wee Anne))
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Herb
Posted By: Mindy B
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 2:38am
Howdy Potters: Welcome Sandie we can all learn from your experience. Joni thanks for letting me have a mini glimpse of Toronto. It sounds like Heaven to me.
Rule 62: speaking of Heaven, a man goes to Heaven and at the Pearly Gates he sees a sign No Dogs Allowed. He passes the gate and continues up the road.
He comes to a sign Welcome!!! No Dogs Allowed. He walks on up the road.
He gets to a sign Welcome to Heaven!!!! No Dogs Allowed. He walks on up the road.
He gets to another set of Pearly gates but there is no sign. "Welcome to Heaven!" the Angel says. "Heaven?" the man replies "well what then were all those other places"? Oh the Angel says "That was hell, they don't let dogs in." For (((Art)))
Bill J on Texas I wish otters could come to our meetings! That would be so cool! LOL
We had a quiet day in Klamath River and perfect weather. Didn't get drunk so it was perfect!
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Huggles M
Posted By: Joni N
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 4:01am
Hi, (everyone).
I, too, want to thank Jan and Miranda for hosting in the cyber hospitality room...and for making it possible for the members of Staying Cyber to participate in the convention experience.
One of the marathon meetings I attended had courage as the topic. (Each marathon meeting had a topic and a couple of alcoholics sharing 15 minutes each...then people could come up to the microphone to share on topic.) The man and woman who shared on courage met on an online AA site. When they met in person, they fell in love and wanted to get married. His best friend told him that if he did that he was no longer his friend. The man's sponsor said he would no longer sponsor him if went through with the wedding. They got married and have been married 7 years and have a son. Evidently, meeting online and marrying was not considered working a good program. I didn't stay for others' shares because it was after midnight and I had to get up at seven the next morning. This is one of the tapes I'll get so I can hear what everyone shared.
KELLY M...Congratulations on your newest family member. A couple in the program who comes to our Friday night As Bill Sees It meeting have a darling Boston Terrier named Penny. She's a little cutie pie.
AZ BILL...I did have a couple of buttons that said Canada AA, eh!, but I gave them both away...one to Miranda. I asked my friend Skip when I left Toronto if he could find more (He stayed another day.) When he returns home on Friday, I'll ask him if he got any more. If so, I'll send you one.
HERB and DAVE Z...You have both just got to go to the 2010 International. As I posted on the Convention site, if you save $2 per week, in 5 years you'll have $520.
BETH...Yes, start at smaller conventions; they'll give you a taste of the International. I hear that Texans know how to party!!
Man-O-Man...my body feels like it's been stomped on...all that walking; all those steps (Toronto has LOTS of steps outside and inside their buildings.) Plus, not much sleep...it all adds up to it's going to take a few days to recoup from the convention. But it was SO worth it!!!!!!!
JOHN T...Glad you realized that your answers are right in your own backyard (sound familiar?). Hope you keep posting here, too.
((Herb))((DaveZ))((WeeAnne))see you in San Antonio in 2010? ((Jan))((Miranda))((Dean))((ChristinaP))
There was an old bulldog named Caesar,
Who went for a cat just to tease her;
But she spat and she spit,
Till the old bulldog quit.
Now when poor Caesar sees her, he flees her.
-Anonymous
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Hugs, Joni
"Your life is what your thoughts make it."
-Marcus Aurelius
Posted By: Miranda
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 5:21am
Good morning all..
Didn't sleep much last night. I had nightmares, I used to have nightmares a lot but this is the first time in quite a while. I can't really remember them but I think I was drinking in them.
I'm starting the Idyllic Job today and I guess the truth is that I'm scared.. well, spitless. I'll be polite about it.
But you know I know what to do about it. I'll eat breakfast, which I don't normally, and have a quiet minute with Maybelline, maybe ask Rega25 for a little help today too.
Then I'll get in the car and go and do the best that I can.
Welcome to Staying Cyber Sandie!
A couple of people asked me to send the order form for the recordings of the convention, which I will do of course, but looking at it I see that you can also order them online from www.soundimages.net
The catalog of the convention is at
https://www.soundimages.net/conference.aspx?cfsi=191 - https://www.soundimages.net/conference.aspx?cfsi=191
If you're ordering online, under where it says Select A Category, if you choose All Languages you'll get the three big stadium meetings. You can download an order form in PDF format to print out too.
Joni, I asked Bill if I could send him my button, I hope you don't mind.
Posted By: Kelly M
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 9:31am
Morning Allz,
Nice reading everyone on the convention. Sounds like you all had an awesome time.
Jack, I'm glad you found your wife on the subway and had a good time at the convention!
Miranda, You will be great today at the new job... Courage girlfriend! You do a terrific job here and I'm sure you will do a great service to your new place of employment.
Joni, Thanks for the stories on the convention, I wanted to join you in the Conga line! It must have been huge with 7,000 people...Yikes! Yep, I'm really psyched about getting my new little buddy soon. Boston Terriers are a lot like French Bulls which I used to breed. They are less expensive and easier to find locally. I'm already getting him toys and stuff. Liked the poem!
Cher- Haha, Yes, The Triangle Club is known as that around here too. It is where I sobered up so I have an affinity for the place. It's just a little hole in the wall but means so much to me. The cookout was fun and standing room only at the nooner. I ate too much and came home and took a nap! Thanks for the link!
Hey Beth, Thanks for the info. I'll be picking up my little buddy on the 24th after 1 pm at their camp. If your in the area let me know and I'll stop by. I'm going to look for a nooner to hit in the area before I pick him up. I may also hit morning mass in Portland or the Basillica in Lewiston, as I hear they are beautiful churches.
Mindy- Hehe on the rule 62!
Trace- Loved that story on fear!
Hi Curtis!
John, I find this a safe place to vent and Art would always just tell me I was on the right track. I'm glad your feeling better... :)
Hi Sandie, Welcome to the Pot!
Hi Herb!
Barney, I liked what your parents have on there headstone. My Mom, "The ism queen", wants of all things on her headstone, ("I did it My Way")
Where is Cec? Hopefully the hand is on the mend.
I gotta go and get ready for a funeral. I made the wake late and it was packed. Jeremy looked to be sleeping in his coffin and his Mom kept arranging his tie. I asked her if she needed a break and she said no. She had been standing for 4 hours with her family receiving people. They held up really well. Today is going to be tough on them. I found out Jeremy was drunk when he fell off the skateboard at 2 AM. I wish for once alcohol wasn't involved... His brother said the family was worried about his drinking. This disease kills so many.
I am so grateful to have my life back,
Everyone have a Super Sober Day!
Kelly :)
Posted By: Wee Anne
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 11:28am
Hi Guys. Home for a couple of hours,one of the nurses visits her Mum to do her shopping so kindly brought me and will take me back in a couple of hours. Pain really kicking in last couple of days and I look AWFUL....Joe says I dont but I dont believe him. First chemo went went as well as it could I guess but no word on how many sessions yet so thats annoying me. This Too Shall Pass is becoming an hourly chant but I suppose its a better chant than Pass Me A Drink!! I keep bumping into things and its actually quite amazing how often I bump into the SAME things again and again before you register not to do it. Girl of 26 had an eye removed yesterday so we're gonna try to navigate as a pair of eyes...she's a really nice lassie so we've kind of teamed up, I'm still in daily contact with a guy who lost a leg same time as I lost my butt cheek so its getting to be a kind of social event for me!! I've got to laugh,my HP has got a strange way of giving what I need in odd situations. Couldnt imagine my life any differently though and bad as some days are I wouldnt want it any other way. IT'S MINE!! (and yours) Catch you soon. Be Good.
(((((BillJ,HerbS)))))
Joni-I'm going to start a San Antonio fund today. 2010 is surely do-able even for me!!
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A freudian slip?When you say one thing but mean your Mother....
Posted By: Sandie A
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 12:44pm
Good morning everyone Thank you for all your welcomesI!m just getting ready to go my noon meeting Hope everyone has a great day Keep the good messages coming and I will check in later on Love and Prayers from beautiful Saskatchewan.Canada God Bless you all Sandie A
Posted By: Kim D.
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 2:46pm
Good afternoon, ((Everyone)).
((((((((Art))))))))) You are missed.
((John T.)) Just because. ((Joni)) The experiences you shared brought goosebumps just reading them. Thank you.
((Miranda)) How was the first day on the job? Betcha it went just fine. They are fortunate to have you.
((Sandie A.)) Welcome to SC! I look forward to hearing more from you and getting to know you better. :-)
((Herb)) Neat... 1 block from the US of A, eh? That must be surreal... Is there a fence or something?
**** Does anyone know if ((Art's)) share was recorded last December down in Florida?? If so... how do I get one?****
((Glen)) Good post on treating oneself well after having been given the second chance through sobriety. I am a non smoker now, but it took a few years into sobriety to get there. Now? It's the second best thing I've ever done for myself and I've never regretted my decision once. Actually still get emotional while exercising when I think of what a blessing it is to be smoke free.
On my way to work this morning I passed a hearse on the highway. It was a somber dark, dark grey - almost black - driving in solitude. My mind starting envisioning that hearse in a kaliedescope (sp?) of colors: green - red - orange - yellow - blue. Tie dyed swirls or happy hippy flowers painted all over.
Why not? Really... celebrate the life that has lived... the lessons learned... the memories created... the love that was given. LOVE.
I spent this weekend with my children, my 4 year old more than my 12 year old (he was over a friends having fun on a boat). We went bike riding and roller blading, played under the sprinkler, went to the play ground 2 times, painted, mowed the lawn, watched fire works, had a cookout with family and fell exhausted in bed at the end of each day - tired, but happy.
EVERYTHING I did this weekend for and with my children was the direct result of my sobriety. AA has given me SO MUCH... returning it to my family ten fold only makes sense to me.
Thank you for helping me stay sober today. ((Everyone)).
Love and friendship,
Kim D.
kimtuck67@hotmail.com
Posted By: Ardis ;)
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 5:07pm
Have more info on (x(o(x(o(x( ART )x)o)x)o)x)
There will NOT be a funeral service!
In lieu of cards and flowers the request is made for donations in the ART PANICHELLA name to:
ECU School of Medicine
525 Moye Blvd
Greenville, NC 27834
OR
To YOUR LOCAL AA
... although, after talking to JANBB, I'm going to make a donation to the New Bern, NC AA in ART"S name!
I have to look the address up and will make a correction or EDIT to this post!
PS: I'm not! They could not give me the local AA Central Office Address by phone. ???? They have to call me back with it ???
He loved what ECU had done for him to give him an extra few 'borrowed" years until recent. So that's become rather my choice.
Tomorrow, Wednesday July 6, we have a Gathering of LOVE at 3:00 pm EST for ALL of us HERE to PRAY Art Panichella into Heaven! You may be EARLY and you may be LATE, however, let's make the connection between us all and give OUR ART a most gorgeous and heart-feld LOVE send-off from the CP!
Be back with the NEW Bern AA address in a minute!
One of the most asked questions:
Art was 71 years of age this past Juanuary 2005.
Hugs,love and friendship, Ardis
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Ardis M. -- 4-11-85 -- omardis at yahoo
Every Adversity has the Seed of an Opportunity.--- Too Much of a Good Thing is Wonderful! Mae West
Posted By: Geri W
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 5:12pm
Good evening fellow potters. It's amazing how the world just keeps turning regardless of what's going on in our lives.
Hope everyone made it home safely from the Holiday and Convention travel.
There's nothing exciting to talk about - and that's wonderful for me.
Take care of yourself and the ones you touch everyday.
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geri
Posted By: Herb S.
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 5:14pm
((Kim)) There's a little peninsula that the 49th parallel runs through over here; it's called Point Roberts on the American side(State of Washington) and Tsawwassen(sah WAH sn) on the Canadian side. The Americans get their gas, electric and telephone from the Canadian side but are on American soil. It's a mutually beneficial arrangement: the Americans get Canucks going down there for boating, cottage living and cheaper gas; the Canadians get Americans coming up to spend a dollar that's worth about $1.20 CDN. in our stores. The official border crossing is a couple of miles away from my place on the main road, but where we live there's just a short chain link fence. Reminds me of better times when borders were not so important to security.
I talked to an oldtimer in AA who was down here in 1940 as a child. The Americans weren't in the war yet, so they had exotic stuff like candy bars and roller skates and everyone would walk over to the American side for the outdoor dances.
As for your idea of multi-coloured hippy hearses, I have just one thing to say: Groovy Baby!! LOL!
The missus has a whole truckload of women coming over here tonight for a "garden party"...help! Why am I suddenly thinkin of that country and western song " I got friends in low places" ??!! Old habits! LOL! I won't be slipping on down to any Oasis tonight; I've got work to do! TTFN ((Wee Anne)) ((Joni))
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Herb
Posted By: Pam B
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 6:26pm
SANDIE A - welcome :)
ARDIS - Sonny thinks the 3:pm mental memorial for ART tomorrow afternoon is a spectacular idea, too.
PAT - I told him your comment hoping St Peter isn't a Republican, & we were ROTFL!!
JACK C & KERRY B - good to "see" you both! Jack, what a horrible scare. Glad you & Ellie & the others were safe & soon found one another.
HERB - I didn't realize where you live till your last post. I have an uncle Walter Rezendes who has lived there, I think since he 1st married (late teens, early 20's?). An older brother of my father's that I don't recall ever mtg, as we lived in New England since I was 2 1/2. He'd be probably in his mid or late 80's now, if still alive. I probably have cousins up there that I've never known.
MIRANDA - I'm waiting to hear how 1st day on the new job went, too.
KIM - our 4th was the most perfect day, & night, also :)
KELLY & CHER - do you also know the Friendship Center in Dover? or did that turn into that Dover Club you're talking about?
KELLY, the new pup sounds so cute. Sorry for the loss of your friend. Hitting his head falling off a skateboard drunk! wow!
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"How does one become a butterfly?" she asked . .
"You must want to fly so much that you are willing to give up being a caterpillar."
Trina Paulus
mailto:Sobergirl91@hotmail.com - Pam B
Posted By: christine c
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 6:31pm
Hello
Lets see, I went to a nice 4th of July lawn party that a married couple I know has every year. The theme this year was hawaii and they had plastic flower leis, not sure how to spell lei. They had a big inflatable slide and dunk tank for the children and a nice cooking area with simple things. It was pleasant. I went with my old long past neighbor Charlie who has been sober a long time I think 10 years or so but he replapsed after 16 years sober or so, he has been around forever. In fact when my mother got sober I was around 14 years old and I think I met him when I was around 15 years old, well I am 41 now and I think he is 58. It is nice to hang around for a little while with someone who knows my past in Albuquerque. We saw a lot of people we knew from AA and oh most of the people at the lawn party where not in AA though. Oh, working this summer as a nurse and trying to make progress on my masters has been just not fun to be honest just work, I have watched a lot of movies and just celebrated my 2 month birthday sober after a relapse of my own after 17 years sober. It was good to talk to Charlie his reasons for drinking and we both came to the conclusion that drinking was fun for about 1 hour and than you wish you where sober if you are an alcoholic. I think this summer is about staying sober and just paying my way.
Bye bye for now, Christine C.
It was just a nice get together.
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"Never give in! Never give in! Never, never, never. Never -- in anything great or small, large or petty -- never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense."
-Winston Churchill-
Posted By: mark L
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 7:28pm
Aloha, Shalom, Salaam aliekum, Om Shanti, Nemaste, Peace.
Hi Sandie A - you join us as we have just lost a stalwart.. but AA is not a standing thing, and the Coffee Pot welcomes the turnover.
The price of life is death, everyone I know is or WILL DIE.
Art Panichella is dead, may God bless his soul.
Parting is such sweet sorrow, crying buckets, I would not chose to have never met him ( thus avoiding the mourning )
Priviledged to know ART through the CP and meet him at roundups.
Art e-mailed me the Desiderata saying that typing it out had helped HIM.
Art was not perfect - who is ? Strong opinions voiced in that Bronx accent like jimmy cagney..
Many AA's in recovery have identified with his account of laying, crying, flat on his back with tears filling his ears..
He didn't suffer fools,his brash manner was a diguise - that fiesty little man was a spiritual giant.
Spikey on the OUTSIDE, he was a marshmallow, A Sweet,sweet soul on the inside.
BUT ! BOYOYBOY BOY could HE use the F word when nutters attacked the CAWFEE POT?
Sliding down his roof getting splinters in his backside, telling his mutts off for chasing snakes and skunks, fixing the waterpump or car, Art lived a fulfilled and useful life after finding sobriety.
Art was humorus and cuddly and alive, he loved dogs.
And now he is dead.
Tears shed at his parting are a small price to pay for the GREAT JOY of having known him, all too briefly.
PLEASE, PLEASE, will someone tell a joke at his funeral or over his grave ?? For certain, he would like that.
With you all tomorrow in spirit, Love in the Fellowship,
Mark L.
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admiral git
Posted By: Robin
Date Posted: July 05 2005 at 7:39pm
Awww! :( I have been without any means of getting online since Wednesday the 29th of June. (((Art))) will be sadly missed here. I have alot of fond memories of my trip to Savannah as well as afterwards. Art was a special and giving soul. He sent me money for Christmas one year to buy Jackie a gift from him, he sent the funny hat he wore in the pictures you'll see taken in Savannah to her as well as a box full of "freebies" I think he had laying around and wanted to get rid of-lol! Like a travel alarm that didn't work long-lol, something given to him at a store probably. I'll be with you all in spirit tomorrow...hope all can get a chuckle out of the pictures seen here of the gathering in Savannah.
http://community.webshots.com/user/rjamato
Love yas,
Robin